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The transgender con ? Many transgender regret switch

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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

You mean this?

Morabito goes on to cite a poll showing that even 65 percent of people who’ve had cosmetic surgery — which is relatively minor body alteration — later regret the decision. As she writes, quoting Courtney Love on her lip enhancement procedure, “I just want the mouth God gave me back.”

That's cosmetic surgery. And they didn't link the poll.




posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: veracity

you see it as a fad, i see it as children being more accepting.


What I see is acceptance too which is fantastic! I honestly believe it is possible for people to not be the correct gender.

I see it exactly how it is being portrayed to me from someone. As a way to adjust or change society norms, a possible way to rebel not against their own body but by those social groups they cannot find to match their mindsets. I see how it is extremely popular on TV (Orange is the New Black, Transparent, Caitlin...) but not a lot of negative impact except for those not accepting...but is that really reality?

What I don't see is the other side of this beyond the popularity the nitty gritty science side of DNA and the long term psychological impact of being born with one gender and "deciding" it was the wrong gender on what evidence a feeling and is that feeling always life long?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

I know you care about children a lot. And I know you would be a good mother to a transgender child if you had one. I know you will come to accept the persistence of gender identity. I know you wouldn't force them to be who they are not. It used to be hard for parents of gay children. Nowadays they are more accepting.


Trying to charm me into accepting your lies ? 😏... not gonna happen DA

I would always try to be the best mother I could, and that would mean hoity toity teachers who think they know my child better and what he of she needs better back the f off. I wouldn't hesitate to sue someone who tried to force me to conform to child transition... and today I would win.

For all you young people the future may not be so sure. Do not let schools and left wing idealogies be the parents to your children.

Not saying it's bad for children to experiment with " dress up" but the deeper meaning of why is where the conversation can be started , and children learn to leave childish fantasy behind .



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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LMAO. I'm sorry but I laughed out loud at this after reading that article:

Could you imagine a patient telling a cardiologist that he has a strong and persistent feeling he has heart disease and the doctor, on that basis alone, performing bypass surgery? 

That guy has lost all credibility.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

Not trying to charm you.
I was just making an observation, a "prediction" if you will. Are you aware that most parents of transgender children didn't accept it for a long time and they tried everything they could to convince them the are the biological sexes assigned at birth?
And why do you keep talking about school indoctrination and "left wing idealogies"? I've yet to see any evidence of that.



edit on 7/18/2017 by Deaf Alien because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: veracity
Please quit using that as an excuse against helping trans kids with transitioning.


This is presuming there is any excuse to 'helping' kids (your word, not mine) do irreversible damage to their bodies.

I for one have no interest in promoting such activities.

[edit: point -> excuse]
edit on 18-7-2017 by Teikiatsu because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: veracity
Please quit using that as an excuse against helping trans kids with transitioning.


This is presuming there is any point to 'helping' kids (your word, not mine) do irreversible damage to their bodies.

I for one have no interest in promoting such activities.

I've never heard of any parents and doctors doing "irreversible damage" (surgery) to transgender children.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: veracity
Please quit using that as an excuse against helping trans kids with transitioning.


This is presuming there is any point to 'helping' kids (your word, not mine) do irreversible damage to their bodies.

I for one have no interest in promoting such activities.

I've never heard of any parents and doctors doing "irreversible damage" (surgery) to transgender children.


That's nice.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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oops , wanted to press edit and hit quote .. small keyboard.. fat finger syndrome
edit on 18-7-2017 by Sheye because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: veracity
Please quit using that as an excuse against helping trans kids with transitioning.


This is presuming there is any point to 'helping' kids (your word, not mine) do irreversible damage to their bodies.

I for one have no interest in promoting such activities.

I've never heard of any parents and doctors doing "irreversible damage" (surgery) to transgender children.


That's nice.

Glad you agree.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien




And why do you keep talking about school indoctrination and "left wing idealogies"? I've yet to see any evidence of that.


Ok ... 😂.. none whatsoever . Nice try ... it's pretty apparent what party pushes these agendas. Same problem with the libs here in Canada 😕



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

You mean this?

Morabito goes on to cite a poll showing that even 65 percent of people who’ve had cosmetic surgery — which is relatively minor body alteration — later regret the decision. As she writes, quoting Courtney Love on her lip enhancement procedure, “I just want the mouth God gave me back.”

That's cosmetic surgery. And they didn't link the poll.


Yeah, that's not even close to being a legitimate transgender survey.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Deaf Alien




And why do you keep talking about school indoctrination and "left wing idealogies"? I've yet to see any evidence of that.


Ok ... 😂.. none whatsoever . Nice try ... it's pretty apparent what party pushes these agendas. Same problem with the libs here in Canada 😕

Far right Christians push their own agendas like you are doing with this OP.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Deaf Alien




And why do you keep talking about school indoctrination and "left wing idealogies"? I've yet to see any evidence of that.


Ok ... 😂.. none whatsoever . Nice try ... it's pretty apparent what party pushes these agendas. Same problem with the libs here in Canada 😕

Far right Christians push their own agendas like you are doing with this OP.


Well .. lets agree to disagree . I still stand behind the info in the links that were posted...
What really sways me is that even if I weren't Christian... it is my common sense that says transitioning to another gender is a dangerous and slippery slope.. and if you were to be totally honest DA ...I think you would be agreeing with me.
edit on 18-7-2017 by Sheye because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Deaf Alien




And why do you keep talking about school indoctrination and "left wing idealogies"? I've yet to see any evidence of that.


Ok ... 😂.. none whatsoever . Nice try ... it's pretty apparent what party pushes these agendas. Same problem with the libs here in Canada 😕

Far right Christians push their own agendas like you are doing with this OP.


Well .. lets agree to disagree . I still stand behind the info in the links that were posted...
What really sways me is that even if I weren't Christian... it is my common sense that says transitioning to another gender is a dangerous and slippery slope.. and if you were to be totally honest DA ...I think you would be agreeing with me.

It is my common sense that says transitioning to another gender will relieve gender dysphoria. I am being honest so no I don't agree with you.
And that article is so biased with Christian beliefs that it's so painful to see. Yes they are pushing an agenda. I would think they want everyone to be like them. That reeks of fascism.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Deaf Alien




And why do you keep talking about school indoctrination and "left wing idealogies"? I've yet to see any evidence of that.


Ok ... 😂.. none whatsoever . Nice try ... it's pretty apparent what party pushes these agendas. Same problem with the libs here in Canada 😕

Far right Christians push their own agendas like you are doing with this OP.


Well .. lets agree to disagree . I still stand behind the info in the links that were posted...
What really sways me is that even if I weren't Christian... it is my common sense that says transitioning to another gender is a dangerous and slippery slope.. and if you were to be totally honest DA ...I think you would be agreeing with me.

It is my common sense that says transitioning to another gender will relieve gender dysphoria. I am being honest so no I don't agree with you.
And that article is so biased with Christian beliefs that it's so painful to see. Yes they are pushing an agenda. I would think they want everyone to be like them. That reeks of fascism.


We will never be like you fascists 😜... lol

Like I said .. agree to disagree ?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:57 PM
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So someone is dead set on transitioning to a male or female. How are you going to stop them?


The same emotional certainty they had before they transitioned is again showing itself in the regret stage or phase.


It’s just something that can’t be avoided. Regret.



This life is imperfect



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Deaf Alien




And why do you keep talking about school indoctrination and "left wing idealogies"? I've yet to see any evidence of that.


Ok ... 😂.. none whatsoever . Nice try ... it's pretty apparent what party pushes these agendas. Same problem with the libs here in Canada 😕

Far right Christians push their own agendas like you are doing with this OP.


Well .. lets agree to disagree . I still stand behind the info in the links that were posted...
What really sways me is that even if I weren't Christian... it is my common sense that says transitioning to another gender is a dangerous and slippery slope.. and if you were to be totally honest DA ...I think you would be agreeing with me.

It is my common sense that says transitioning to another gender will relieve gender dysphoria. I am being honest so no I don't agree with you.
And that article is so biased with Christian beliefs that it's so painful to see. Yes they are pushing an agenda. I would think they want everyone to be like them. That reeks of fascism.


We will never be like you fascists 😜... lol

Like I said .. agree to disagree ?

Sure. Let's agree to disagree.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
So someone is dead set on transitioning to a male or female. How are you going to stop them?


The same emotional certainty they had before they transitioned is again showing itself in the regret stage or phase.


It’s just something that can’t be avoided. Regret.



This life is imperfect


Life is imperfect.. and if an adult is dead set on transitioning .. so be it.. but there are consequences to choices that should be pondered upon before making such a drastic leap.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye
It's always the same old on these threads with a few individuals.

Your sources are bogus crap... blah blah blah.. conservative think tap crap.

Then they expect you to read their bais crap and do a complete turnabout on your viewpoints.

My views are based on logic as well as reality. It's not natural to carve your body up ,to be something your not. That is the lie being told to transgendered ... and I think many suffer postsurgical depression, which is sad indeed.



It's always the same old making and on these threads with a few individuals.

They make a thread, share biased sources, demean a whole community, then are astounded when people counter their dis-info instead of doing a turnabout on their views. Namely people that are trans themselves, who have experience. Unlike the soapbox who whine, make thread topics all day about it because they are deathly afraid.

I wonder, fear or a vie for attention similar to the serial spammer-who you stood up for. That's all I needed to know then.



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