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The Combustion Engine

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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: Cofactor\


Its a great discussion, but air tools seem to be efficient, you can hold one horsepower in about eight inches, the equivalent in electric is about eighteen inches if you get my drift. Hydraulic rams could produce the air pressure, at fifty PSI domestic water supply, you could have a simple safe power source , most of the cities water supply comes from dams in the hills, its the pressure not the volume used, in fact the household water supply could produce a great amount of power. But the household rates are now charging for water, when it used to be in with the rates maybe they have twigged.




posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 05:52 AM
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a reply to: solve

You said it. That's the answer. Technological suppression is real.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: TheMadTitan

"Do we have the technology already, suppressed to keep burning those fossil fuels? "

Simple answer is most definitely but Oil and Gas make profit while retarding the freedoms that other such energy producing mediums would afford our respective societies.

End of the day free or nearly free energy equates to less central control which is why they are suppressed.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Surely all it would take is for one form of free energy to make it into the public domain and that's game over for fossil fuels. Praying it happens soon.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: TheMadTitan

Suppose so but "They" have pretty much control over everything one way or another.

It would be discredited, proved dangerous, hence prohibited or the inventor would turn out to be a ISIS Paedophile. "There" tactics are numerous and not always self evident, hence there measure of control over our respective populations.

"Praying it happens soon"

Do you know why we end such prayers with "Amen"?

Prayers solve nothing, that's our department, good intentions or otherwise.

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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: TheMadTitan

I find it hard to believe in the 150 years we've had cars we haven't developed any other kind of propulsion beyond the inferior mechanical devices we use today.


The problem - or benefit, depending on your viewpoint I suppose - is that the internal combustion engine still gives some of the best bang for the buck. The fuel is widely available and easy to transport. The infrastructure - both in terms of fuel and manufacturing components - is in place to support it. It doesn't require exotic materials. In fact, you could throw the world back two hundred years and you could still manufacture a functional diesel engine and the fuel to run it.

There are certainly better technologies but, while the ICE isn't great, it's good enough. More importantly, it's everywhere.

Eventually a replacement will be developed, but it will have to be something that is impossible to ignore.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: TheMadTitan

We live in a world of lies, manipulation and make believe....all laid upon us by an invisable force whos greatest strength is to not exist. Fossil fuel... a word so familiar we do not even bother to question its meaning and truth anymore.


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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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Everything new and good is being roadblocked and ground to a halt. Apparently cars can drive on gasoline vapor alone, dramatically increasing MPG. Why is this not being widespread news? Too much money lost by the Big Oil.

This theory is as silly as it is old.

Please explain how Elon Musk got a pass from big oil to basically cut them out of the picture.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 03:51 PM
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Technology moves slow to fund itself. Thats the morally sound half of the story.

They could never r&d smartphones if they didn't charge so much for junk computers in the decades leading up. Its all just crowdsourcing. Every consumer is an early investor ln future technology.

The steering of technology for means of control and power consolidation is where things get shady. Killing nature and charging others a tax for it, just to design and sell some chemicals youll be dependent on without nature... So the only money train in town never reaches the depot and just keeps on collecting tickets. Assuring no one in the caboose can co-pilot the thing, they lay the tracks one length ahead of the train, and everyone's on board, because it's at least going somewhere.
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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Wonder how much it would cost to build mag lift systems to replace every road.
Definitely not practical.

Fossil fuels are very cheap and efficient to use. Until that changes cars will not change.


Your right and there isonly so much advancement you can have on a combustion engine. We can make it more efficient even last longer add safety features and of course WiFi etc. But bottom line wheels are more practical and for personal transit even if we could make a car that can fly it wouldn't happen. Can you imagine if everyone had flying cars the accidents that would occur. Roads restrict drivers we call it traffic.

But in flying cars having people zipping this way and that would be a disaster. There would be no control as people crashed into roofs buildings and for that matter everything. This is why we require pilot licenses would you trust most people with the ability tof crash on to your roof.
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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 08:45 PM
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Yore not much of an engineer or analytical thicker if you equate to says molder marvel of the direct port injected ICE to the hand cranks of the past.

Today's ICE's are amazing!



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: TheMadTitan

Considering all the uses used to produce power, the tidal mill pond seems an interesting one.The sheer scale of some of these factories makes one wonder why they are just anachronisms and not more widely used.





posted on Jul, 19 2017 @ 04:14 AM
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First off, hydrocarbons aren't anywhere close to nonrenewable resources.

Second, we're damn close to essentially being able to make home hydrocarbon refinement totally doable and economically viable.

Third, combustion engines themselves and everything else that makes up the propulsion and power systems of various vehicles have potential to get WAYYY MORE EFFICIENT.

Fourth, modern and near future manufacturing technology are already starting to massively change a whole bunch of things in favor of the little guy. ICE engine etc technology is a HUGE part of what's making this possible... That's the REAL REASON behind the sudden push to ban it etc!

What? You actually thought electric cars etc were about saving the environment?

They're not!

They are about control, erecting and making unassailable new barriers to entry in order to lock out new players, maintaining control, enforcement of centralized logistics as a key control mechanism, and being able to break the resistance of any organized resistance by choking off their access to the rare earths which become vital with ICE hydrocarbons and coal banned!!!

Or did you miss the whole part where one authoritarian country has been handed a TOTAL monopoly on rare earth deposits, mining, refinement, and etc over the majority of the globe?

Yeah, it's not an accident people



posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 06:55 AM
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If Mr Musk enjoys the privileged life style and status his ideas and contributions to society has afforded him thus far then chances are he worships Monies whether he or we realise it or not.

Fact is big oil and the energy industries exist to produce profit and could have been supplanted by now in this day of age to a far greater degree to produce far better energy producing products than just Oil and Gas.

Sugarcane Ethanol being one of the main contenders not to mention molten salt reactors.

Plus lets not forget the holy grail, controlled nuclear fusion, cold or hot, if we had been pumping monies and research in to that particular field of technology in the same manner we seem to spend or war and conflict around the globe i imagine such technologies would have come to fruition sometime around the turn of the millennium instead of still being 10-20 years distant.
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posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: samkent
Plus lets not forget the holy grail, controlled nuclear fusion, cold or hot, if we had been pumping monies and research in to that particular field of technology in the same manner we seem to spend or war and conflict around the globe i imagine such technologies would have come to fruition sometime around the turn of the millennium instead of still being 10-20 years distant.

George W. Bush had the perfect opportunity for that in 2001. I was waiting for him to say that 9/11 was the last straw and we're going to get rid of our dependence on oil and get completely out of the Middle East. He should have challenged industry and scientists to find a way to be free of oil by year X (whatever that would be). Kennedy did it when he said we'll have a man on the moon by the end of the century. Talk about making the history books!



posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

Thing is G W. Bush and his cronies may well have had a hand in the 9/11 event or at least knew about it before hand. Plus said family are up to there neck regarding the black stuff in question.

So Bush was never going to end our dependence on oil as it seems it would be counterproductive to control hence against the agenda of the one world government he has been known to drone on about at length.
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posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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Agree with the OP it's 2017 I want my fusion powered anti gravity flying car. But on the other hand I'm a rev head so the internal combustion engine is awesome.

It's interesting that in the last few decades our technology hasn't really done much in a lot of areas, cars, planes, ships are basically the same as they were decades ago.

The next big thing IMO will be nuclear fusion power which will be a big thing. The next 20 years maybe. Fossil fuels like oil are still useful and they get the job done.



posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 02:01 PM
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Well the information age in which we live started with the Internet and that was only a few decades ago.

Then there is the extra solar planets that have been discovered over the past decades.

Factor in what we are beginning to understand about dark matter and energy and the quantum realm/foam and i would say the last few decades have been the most interesting since the industrial revolution.

Fusion will eventually materialise probobly in the next decade or so. Whats required is better magnetic confinement. Once we have that problem licked the materials and technology are already there.

As to anti gravity, well a better understanding of gravity and how it relates to electromagnetism seem to be required before we are able to defy such a universal force of nature.

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posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: zatara
a reply to: TheMadTitan

We live in a world of lies, manipulation and make believe....all laid upon us by an invisable force whos greatest strength is to not exist. Fossil fuel... a word so familiar we do not even bother to question its meaning and truth anymore.



Good point, where does oil come from? Is it a by product of the internal earth's processes?



posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

I thought it came from similar lines to how nature produces coal?

That being biomass, immense pressure, heat and 100s of millions of years.

Could be wrong all the same.
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