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The Problem with the Trump-Russia Collusion Narrative

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posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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It doesn't fit reality. Here are the facts:
Trump has put PATRIOT missiles in Poland, a move opposed by Russia.
www.defensenews.com...

Trump put more sanctions on Iran, a close Russian ally.
www.latimes.com...

Trump is sending Poland US natural gas, undermining Russian oil prices.
www.investors.com...

Trump is encouraging american oil exports, which also undermines Russian oil prices.
www.marketplace.org...

Trump is increasing military spending by an amount nearly equal to the entire Russian defense budget, another move Russia would not like.
qz.com...

Trump ordered a military strike on the Russian backed Assad after chem weapons attack, and threatened more of them.
www.newsweek.com...

Trump has pressured NATO allies into spending more on defense, Russia wouldn't like that either.
www.washingtonpost.com... _story.html?utm_term=.4bd94aa97a42

Trump appointed Kurt Volker as special envoy to Ukraine. This guy hates Russia.
foreignpolicy.com...

So either there was no collusion. Or there was what the russians thought was collusion but they ended up getting nothing out of said collusion, making trump one of the greatest deal makers of all time. Either way, the narrative of collusion is so far from reality it's absurd.




posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

I think the reality is easier to explain. The simplest answer is often the right answer.

No one wanted Clinton to win, no one!

That is what it boils down to. Everyone with an ounce of brain matter did not want Clinton in the white house.

P

edit on 16/7/2017 by pheonix358 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite
The problem is that is doesn't fit YOUR reality. It seems to be fitting everyone else's reality. Including Republicans.

For those still hanging on to the it being called Fake News, I feel sorry for you, but most of the country has moved on.

36% approval rating and some of the people who approve KNOW the collusion is HUGE.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Trump wanted a Russian/US coalition against election cyber hacks. Hahahaha



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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Good point. They are sending unencrypted gmail the IC can easily intercept. They are putting these fancy words like crown prosecutor of Russia and the Russian government in the email. Seems like it was a setup. If it was real, they would use a private server and at the very least use discreet secret words.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Dfairlite

I think the reality is easier to explain. The simplest answer is often the right answer.

No one wanted Clinton to win, no one!

That is what it boils down to. Everyone with an ounce of brain matter did not want Clinton in the white house.

P


More than 50% of the country wanted Clinton to win...whether by first choice or 2nd as Bernie sanders asked his followers to vote for her.

You mean to tell me tat over 50% single votes is no one??



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Good point. They are sending unencrypted gmail the IC can easily intercept. They are putting these fancy words like crown prosecutor of Russia and the Russian government in the email. Seems like it was a setup. If it was real, they would use a private server and at the very least use discreet secret words.


NO, not a setup. They didn't need anything complicated for DTJ to agree to the meeting. LOL setup, thatb is comedy right there.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: Vorian

Incorrect. Only 48% did.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

NO, you are incorrect. Clinton won the popular vote.

Trump is now at 36% approval rate. Lowest of any President in 70 years.


I am waiting for the fake number replies. lol



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: Vorian

But thats not how it went down. Infact, bernie supporters ended up voting for Trump.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: Vorian

Ye, but the popular vote doesn't determine the President, don't be that idiot who tries to push that angle, you'll lose every time.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: Vorian

She won 48% of the popular vote. 2% more than Trump did.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Vorian

But thats not how it went down. Infact, bernie supporters ended up voting for Trump.


You have those numbers? I didn't. People in local Sanders campaign groups didn't.

No sane person would have voted for Trump.
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posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Vorian

She won 48% of the popular vote. 2% more than Trump did.


Then she won the popular vote. ty.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Vorian

Ye, but the popular vote doesn't determine the President, don't be that idiot who tries to push that angle, you'll lose every time.


I only mentioned the popular vote. I am horribly and horrendously reminded daily of who actually won.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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So just another thread with nothing to prove trumps campaign did not collude with russia to get dirt on hiallry, good job on more deflection.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: Vorian

Lol, no sane person? So you've revealed yourself as a troll, got it.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
So just another thread with nothing to prove trumps campaign did not collude with russia to get dirt on hiallry, good job on more deflection.


That is all they have. lol



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: Vorian

The states are all equal. 2 senators per state. Popular vote isn't everything. Only a candidate popular in all the country is eligible to represent America. Poor people have no choice but to vote Democrat. Thanks to Trump, they will soon have jobs and vote Republican in 2020.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: Vorian

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: Vorian

She won 48% of the popular vote. 2% more than Trump did.


Then she won the popular vote. ty.
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