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So wat if Trump colluded with Russia to win?

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posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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Trump is an American citizen who does what is best for America. Russia will get nothing in return and there's nothing they can do about it. Go ahead, release the pee pee tape. Everyone already knows Trump is a class A pervert. No one will be surprised by it. Don't forget who helped George Washington become president. It was France. Don't forget who helped Louis XVIII become king. It was Britain and Prussia. Don't forget who helped Henry VII become king. It was France. It is quite common for collusion to happen. That doesn't mean they are puppet rulers.




posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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How about we find something more than sketchy circumstantial evidence that supports any form of collusion before we go excusing it.

Im a Trump supporter but if he did collude or conspire he better have a bloody good reason



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

France helped us win the war in 1783. Washington was elected on 1790. By that point, relations with France has become less then cozy.

ETA

Are you joshacox's alter ego?






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posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

George Washington sent Benjamin Franklin to collude with France during the war. If it wasn't for France, it would have been unlikely for George Washington to beat Britain.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye
But you said France helped Washington become president, which was in 1790. Do you even know what was happening in France in 1790?



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: TacSite18

George Washington sent Benjamin Franklin to collude with France during the war. If it wasn't for France, it would have been unlikely for George Washington to beat Britain.


Yet we still save their skins every time! It's looking like we're going to have to save their arses again from the EU. Next election cycle in France will be interesting.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

George Washington becoming president was all but assured. He just had to beat Britain. To do that, he colluded with France. He sent Benjamin Franklin to France in 1776 to strike a deal. Fight Britain together and weaken Britain together.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: TacSite18

George Washington sent Benjamin Franklin to collude with France during the war. If it wasn't for France, it would have been unlikely for George Washington to beat Britain.


Yet we still save their skins every time! It's looking like we're going to have to save their arses again from the EU. Next election cycle in France will be interesting.


i take it you believe holocaust denying le pen was right for france?



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
How about we find something more than sketchy circumstantial evidence that supports any form of collusion before we go excusing it.

Im a Trump supporter but if he did collude or conspire he better have a bloody good reason


That'd be the pizza problem , and getting rid of it , and the Clinton fronted menaces . DJTJ met an adoption lawyer and he doesn't mind telling people that . Podesta will be eating his fingernails in fear , and the media will be getting very shifty about it all , just as hollywood were about Trump before 474 of' them' were arrested just after his election . He might love sex with beautiful women, but guess what , me and putin do too . Look after trump you'll get results just wait and see



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:49 PM
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Trump is an American citizen who does what is best for America.
Ha ha. Want to by a bridge?

Russia will get nothing in return and there's nothing they can do about it.Yeah, right. I'll take that bet.

Go ahead, release the pee pee tape. Everyone already knows Trump is a class A pervert. I agree totally.

No one will be surprised by it. Don't forget who helped George Washington become president. It was France. Don't forget who helped Louis XVIII become king. It was Britain and Prussia. Don't forget who helped Henry VII become king. It was France. It is quite common for collusion to happen. That doesn't mean they are puppet rulers.

All the rest of that is gibberish. None of those countries were democracies. All of those countries were kingdoms run by oligarchs and royalty. The collusion was not by a free people but by the kings and rulers at the time. And none of those kings gave even the slightest consideration for what was good for their people. To them, the people did not matter other than that they pay their taxes and fight in their wars.

So by holding up those examples to us of how colluding with Russia is like all those examples from ancient history you are saying that you base your values and political ideas on how imperial kingdoms were run and not by how a country of people who cherish democracy and freedom want to run theirs.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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Again , can someone tell me just how the HADES the Russians won the election for Trump ? Last time I reviewed election laws they cant vote in a US election of any kind.
There is a lot of foreign nationals that do not understand that , and keep chanting the leftist myth. It all began with the word "deplorables" . Bottom line. It is ok for candidates to call each other names. probably not decorum , but we overlook it. For a candidate to call a large number of the voting base names , is despicable. The only ones that stayed with Hillary after that are the group of Progressive Liberal whiny -a**ed younguns that do not know the difference. I can say that was the case here in Georgia. Old Clinton had a considerable lead in the polls up till then . The Blue Collar Dems (the REAL Democrats) immediately started turning away , and Trump won here by a large number of votes .
It was also in part by the behavior of those self-same Progressive Liberals.Turned the rest of us . Yet the Dems kept the same old regimen and still keep losing .
It cant be their fault. No way.




posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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You need a hobby, badly.

Scrapbooking? Perhaps?



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: Wide-Eyes

We didn't in 1793 when they were attacked by britian, even though we had a treaty that said we would.


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posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

But that isn't what you said. You implied that France colluded with Washington to make him president.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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FINALLY being honest!!

I commend you!



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

George Washington needed France's help to beat Britain so he can be president.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: TacSite18

George Washington sent Benjamin Franklin to collude with France during the war. If it wasn't for France, it would have been unlikely for George Washington to beat Britain.


Don't forget about the Jewish financier Haym Salomon, financier of the American Revolution!

en.wikipedia.org...


From the period of 1781–84, records show Salomon's fundraising and personal lending helped provide over $650,000 (approximately $16,870,212.74 in 2013 dollars [8]) in financing to George Washington in his war effort. His most meaningful financial contribution, however, came immediately prior to the final revolutionary war battle at Yorktown.[9] In August 1781, the Continental Army had trapped Lieutenant General Charles Cornwallis in the Virginian coastal town of Yorktown. George Washington and the main army and Count de Rochambeau with his French army decided to march from the Hudson Highlands to Yorktown and deliver the final blow. But Washington's war chest was completely empty, as was that of Congress. Without food, uniforms and supplies, Washington's troops were close to mutiny.[9] Washington determined that he needed at least $20,000 to finance the campaign. When Morris told him there were no funds and no credit available, Washington gave him a simple but eloquent order: "Send for Haym Salomon". Salomon raised $20,000, through the sale of bills of exchange. With that, and the $1,400,000 personally loaned by Robert Morris,[10] Washington conducted the Yorktown campaign, which proved to be the final battle of the Revolution.[5]



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: TacSite18
a reply to: allsee4eye

ETA

Are you joshacox's alter ego?



LOL.

It's like dueling banjos on the new topics page.




I'm undecided on which side is which at this point. Seems to alternate daily.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

The emails admit he was heading to a meeting with a Russian agent specifically to collude to swing the election, because of Russia's support for trump..

So even if a set up, or Putin was playing him.. he was down and lied about it the ENTIRE time.

That said I don't think the leaks are done. I think they are letting them lie every step of the way.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

That was to establish a nation from scratch and Washington didn't base his campaign on the "fake news" setting him up.

You got to find an example where a citizen collides with a foriegn nation AGAINST his own country.

An example of some one colluding for their own country is the opposite.



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