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posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: Lab4Us

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

This is just another one of thousands of thread bashing the left.


Pot, meet kettle...

This is what a deflection looks like.




posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: silo13

The problem here is not that Dem's or Leftists have not spoken-out about many of those issues. The problem is that many of you were not listening.

You were too busy creating narratives, using a broad brush to paint everyone on the Left, and not hearing those that were speaking-out.

Kind of like what you're doing, too busy creating narratives, using a broad brush to paint everyone on the right, and not hearing those that were speaking-out. Victim angle much?

Another deflection. So two wrongs make a right? Or two lefts make a right? LOL.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: silo13

The problem here is not that Dem's or Leftists have not spoken-out about many of those issues. The problem is that many of you were not listening.

You were too busy creating narratives, using a broad brush to paint everyone on the Left, and not hearing those that were speaking-out.

Kind of like what you're doing, too busy creating narratives, using a broad brush to paint everyone on the right, and not hearing those that were speaking-out. Victim angle much?


I said many. Not all. If I had, you would be correct.

But I notice that you not only forgot to notice the specific word I used, but you also didn't actually address the topic.

Can we do that?



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Yeah.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Three left faces and you'll face right. What can I say, I scored a perfect on my drill during WLC.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Three left faces and you'll face right. What can I say, I scored a perfect on my drill during WLC.

LOL. That was good. I'll give you that one.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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Not only has the Left been critical of Obama... we read about his bad policies and egregious acts in the MSM. FOX, Breitbart, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh lied to you about us, about the MSM and you bought it.

Remember Occupy? You were told it was all bought and paid for by Soros but if you rub two brain cells together you might realize how against the Soros narrative that is. Occupy was very much a protest against the administration and government in general... initiated by fury over Obama's bailout of Wall St. It morphed into a lot of things but remained critical of Obama and his administration.

Namely:
Bailouts
Drone warfare
GITMO
NDAA
Fourth Amendment violations
Yemen
Libya
Arming Syrian rebels
We protested across the country when Obama said he wanted to put boots on the ground in Syria
Continuation of deposing leaders
Continuation of neo-Liberalism, Imperialism
The TPP
The TTIP
The continued privatization of public lands and goods
The continued corporatization of US government

Maybe you should have listened to what we were saying instead of being told.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Apparently you know a lot about me though, as you seem to make a point of remembering what I post in "exact words"



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: introvert

Yeah.


Good.

Would you agree that it would be disingenuous to say that the Left said nothing regarding many of those issues listed?

Also, the OP and it's source are an obvious deflection from what is now currently unfolding with Trump.

Surely, as obvious as it is, we can agree on that.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Nice attempt at deflection. Clearly you are a lost liberal tired of losing arguments. You can't be a liberal and then claim to be a libertarian now. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in your statements.

On another note you've mentioned to a few other posters you are a straight male insinuating those posters are pursuing you for a romantic relationship.

This is projection. Clearly you are in the midst of an internal struggle with yourself about being a gay male. And that's ok if you are gay. I have no issues with gays. Just so long as you do not mandate that the rest of heterosexual society conform to your minority viewpoints being a gay man or member of the gay community.

You should embrace your homosexuality and stop projecting it upon others unsolicited.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13




You should embrace your homosexuality and stop projecting it upon others unsolicited.


I can tell what your are by the look in your eyes of your avatar. Nice costume...

But like you, I have no issues with gays....



edit on 16-7-2017 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: Kettu

Or maybe I just have a good memory? I can name many post's from you, along with many other members, it's almost second nature to me. It also helps when you actually care about the things you engage in rather than mindlessly trolling.

Plus, how can I ever forget "super liberal message boards" ?

I was stunned the first time I read that, I truly felt sorry for you.

But nice try, trying to project your own shortcomings on to me.




posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Ok. Tell me what I am then.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
The Left couldn't care less about collusion with foreign governments, or they would be roasting the democrats non-stop. All they care about is stopping Trump, and so they have manufactured faux-outrage at this Russian Collusion narrative. It's hypocritical as can be, but as long as it favors them politically that's all they care about.


TruMcCarthy, I really appreciate how you get to the point. It doesn't take 500 words to say, what can be said in 50.

Thank-you!



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:19 AM
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Well, I think that just about covers it, the dissection of the democrats. With approval ratings like 36 and 17 percent, I don't think that plan will work this time.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: silo13

But these are of course, nothing but lies.

Members of the grass roots left DID say things about Obama when he started drone strikes, and refused to simply end all military and intelligence involvement in Middle Eastern affairs, when he gave up on closing Guantanamo Bay, when he failed to take the intelligence community to task for its involvement in mass surveillance of the people of the country they CLAIM to protect, and a whole heap of other items, including many not even listed here, which the left rightly found to be utterly unacceptable.

It is simply not convenient to the small minded, to consider the very real possibility however, that people with different views to them, may have things in common with them.

Lets lay it out.

I am socially and economically left wing, in terms of my politics. I also decried many, MANY of Obama's actions or failures to act, during his Presidency, including those I mention above. I also despise Hillary Clinton, because very much like Tony The Phoney Blair, she is no lefty, but an outright corporatist, no different than Bush or Trump, suckling at the teat of money she did not earn by her own sweat, but exploited out of others, either as a lawyer, or during her later life as a political figure.

But it is far easier for the right to ignore that the left is not blind, is NOT foolish, DOES have standards at the grass roots level, than to accept that there are noble ideals behind what we believe. It is simpler, because if the right has to accept that there are ideals within the grass roots of left wing, liberal, dare one even suggest, socialist thinking, then it makes it a damned sight harder for them to justify their hatred of it. I accept that there are people within the grassroots of the right who are not fascists, who do not want to ban people from their nations on spurious grounds, who do not want to place restrictions on the rights of women and minorities, who do not believe that being poor is the fault of the poor, and want to seek better outcomes for their countrymen, by making the systems they live within work FOR the people, not against them.

How many people on the right are prepared to accept though, that the left is not their enemy, that only fascism and hatred are the enemies of free people, that only those who wield power without having earned the respect of the people by good deeds and noble conduct, those who hoard money they did not earn but damned near stole from the people, are the enemies of the people? How many on the right are prepared to accept that those at the grassroots level on the left, are NOT screaming, handwringers, but hardy folk living hard lives, whose sweat and toil has been undervalued by the capitalist method, to the detriment of those people and the industries they are a part of?

How many people on the right are prepared to give credit where it is due, and accept that they do not have a monopoly on truth, justice and liberty, that in fact their opposite numbers on the left feel exactly as angry when noble acts are abandoned in favour of tyrannical, and oppressive behaviour, on the part of ANY leadership?

Not many, I would wager. Not many at all.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: silo13

How can anyone vote for Dems. Why would you want a big government, it just makes corruption even bigger. Seriously do you trust greedy people you don't know to run you bank account? That is the same as empowering the government with more money to run your lives.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: silo13

43. Obama called himself a Christian (liar) but was pro-abortion.

The two cannot go hand in hand.

peace


Funny how so many "Christians" don't have a problem with screwring the poor or bombing civilians.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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Yup, sorry OP, your list is a list of lies.

As others have explained with evidence above, the left did protest a bunch of these things.

Research what Occupy was about.

A movement that the establishment and the Right shut down and shut down hard.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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Actually the MSM lies all the time or focuses on trivialities no matter who is in office.

And both the right and left are equally guilty of being mindless pawns.

The way everyone bickers and accuses each other in this very thread is obvious proof of the hypocrisy to any outside nonaligned onlookers.



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