Wow, what an interesting thread, I've really learnt a lot.
It seems people really are quite confused about what makes a man a man and a woman a woman.
Reading this thread...some odd ideas about what makes a man a man. Should a man be gentle, caring and intellectual or should a man be brutish, tough
Since where were intelligence and strength mutually exclusive? Can one not be both?
The real men of history did great things - generals who won battles or scientists and engineers who studied the world and made great advances.
Take a man like Conor McGregor - here we have a man who is very strong, the modern embodiment of classical manliness. He likes to fight, he talks
Is he stupid? I'd say no, not at all..I don't like him much but he's certainly made some great achievments in his life...read about his background.
When you learn more about Conor you start to see that he actually has a very human and caring side.
Now take a man like Tesla...strange, small, slight...loved a pigeon. Still a highly intelligent man who gave much to the world. Not the most confident
person, not loutish or brutish at all.
In the interests of fairness let's look at someone like Boy George
- a chap who dressed like a woman and sang Do you really want to hurt
. One might argue that he was a big sissy...but it took courage, guts and quite a lot of mental fortitude for him to put himself out
there...particularly back then when attitudes were a lot different. Boy Goerge is definitely a man, regardless of his personal characteristics...even
the really camp ones.
Still a man.
I think this thread is just an extension of a popular, modern narrative...that what makes a man a man can be attributed solely to social
Intelligence and stupidity are simply two ends of a spectrum...and strength and weakness are two ends of a different spectrum. It's possible to occupy
a totally unique place on both spectrums at the same time...this is the essence of individuality. We're all a little or lot of something to some
But in the end none of this makes a man a man...what makes a man a man is a penis. This has and will always be the case.
This is really just another take on the whole trans-confusion nonsense and what we're really arguing in the end is semantics...or how our personal
interpretation or definition of a word differs from person to person. To me, a man is a human with a schlong. It really is that simple...he might have
a penis and still cry at a chick flick, or laugh like a brute when he sees a child fall over and cut himself. Now, I know someone will come along and
tell me I'm wrong...we simply occupy different positions on yet another spectrum and are again arguing semantics...the meaning of the word man as
opposed to what the charactersitics of a man actually are. My definition of man is simply human with penis. He might cry when he sees a flower or he
might chop the flower down and build something where it once stood...both men.
It's possible for a man to be stupid and weak the same as it's possible for a man to be smart and strong.
In fact, more of the great men through history had intelligence as well as braun. Generals won battles...generals were strong...generals were
confident. Some generals were intelligent but were compassionate and caring enough to be kind and considerate off the battlfield.
I vaguely remember a nice quote from Robert W. Smith in the book Chinese boxing
(a book that describes many tough real
men who were as
intelligent and gentle as they were tough) - combine the hardness of a wall with the softness of a butterflies wings.
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