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If there was a serious Russian spy agent meeting with Trump, Obama gets the blame

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posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:32 PM
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Obama is the head of the exec that includes the American IC. He was supposed to safeguard America from infiltration by Putin's forces. If Trump did meet with Rinat Akhmetshin, supposedly a Russian spy agent, and did some collusion, then the blame goes to Obama for not kicking out these Russian spy agents, him and that Natalia girl.

www.latimes.com...



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posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Obama is the head of the exec that includes the American IC. He was supposed to safeguard America from infiltration by Putin's forces. If Trump did meet with Rinat Akhmetshin, supposedly a Russian spy agent, and did some collusion, then the blame goes to Obama for not kicking out these Russian spy agents, him and that Natalia girl.

www.latimes.com...


Omg this is not a satire....

""Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first. "



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

If the American IC was not able to intercept simple gmails like these, which have 0 encryption, it's because Obama diverted too much funding away from national security and into welfare for the poor. Obama still gets the blame.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


You are either a paid shill OR you really should go seek some mental health therapy. Honestly, something isn't right with you and your obsession! Get off your computer and go out and see the wonders of mother nature!

I mean that sincerely too! Not trying to be a smart ass, but you are either sick or just trolling.


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posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye
I am confused. Is the president directly in charge of personally finding each spy in the U.S. and escorting the to the boarder?

Then all the other presidents have really been doing a bad job.

You might want to re-phrase.


Or understand that there is a big group of folks who do counter intel, have been doing it for many years, and are still doing it.

By your logic Bush was really slacking for not personally running down the 911 hijackers, giving them a Batman smackdown, and then throwing them in the sea to swim home.

You're funny!



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posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

This Rinat guy has been living in DC for decades. He's nothing like those pilots who crashed into the towers. The IC should have kept an eye on him.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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I think there is some confusion amongst Trump supporters.

Those of us who dislike Trump do also think that Obama could have done more, much more, in fact the DNC is as much to blame for this mess as anyone.

They were told about Russian interference and did nothing for political reasons, they did not want to be seen as themselves trying to sway the election, they did not want to admit that after 8 years of Democratic rule they had left America open to what could be called a cyber 9/11. Not only that but they kicked Bernie to the sidelines, they picked that wench Hillary who was known to be deeply disliked.

That however in no way excuses Trump, its just a fact that seems to be getting lost, the Obama administration is also to blame for this mess.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye
How do you know the IC didn't have their "eye on him?"

lots of time the IC let the low level spys run around but they watch them, in order to find out who the traitors are that the spy is working with....

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ETA
Or who they are meeting with ...
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posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

Lol.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Obama is the head of the exec that includes the American IC. He was supposed to safeguard America from infiltration by Putin's forces. If Trump did meet with Rinat Akhmetshin, supposedly a Russian spy agent, and did some collusion, then the blame goes to Obama for not kicking out these Russian spy agents, him and that Natalia girl.

www.latimes.com...

Is it usual for russian spies to play good spy / bad spy? Why would this russian spy talk about the undisclosed act of his compatriot's memo passing...



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Obama is the head of the exec that includes the American IC. He was supposed to safeguard America from infiltration by Putin's forces. If Trump did meet with Rinat Akhmetshin, supposedly a Russian spy agent, and did some collusion, then the blame goes to Obama for not kicking out these Russian spy agents, him and that Natalia girl.

www.latimes.com...

You're mistaken.

If they did meet and if they colluded blah blah blah...

Then the blame for allowing it to happen and not doing anything about it happening most certainly goes to Obama.

The blame for actually doing it would go to the Trump team.

Obama is not your get out of jail free card.

(This, of course, runs with the OP's notion that there may have been a meeting and there may have been collusion at said meeting; I'm not stating that there was collusion)
edit on 15-7-2017 by Shamrock6 because: no idea why it's all in bold but sorry for the eyesore



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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So Obama forced Trump to meet with the Russian? He chose to meet with her of his own free will ever hear of something called personal responsibility?



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Obama is the head of the exec that includes the American IC. He was supposed to safeguard America from infiltration by Putin's forces. If Trump did meet with Rinat Akhmetshin, supposedly a Russian spy agent, and did some collusion, then the blame goes to Obama for not kicking out these Russian spy agents, him and that Natalia girl.

www.latimes.com...

I thought Obama did, in fact, kick out a bunch of Russians..........?



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: lostbook

A bunch of families of diplomats. The spies are still in the US.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

I see the hardcore Trump and anti-Trump crowds are now having a showdown to see who can have the most asinine threads on the new topic list.

You're behind, but if you try hard enough you can rally. I suggest blaming Hillary next, then bring it back around to Obama again after. Throw some DNC in each.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Everyone is flashing the can around and jumping for joy, yet no one has said squat about the worms. WTF?




official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia


Why is this not being discussed?



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Letting her in with extraordinary circumstances and no visa is the state departments fault I thought one could say. Is that false information or who is to blame for letting her in with no visa? I don't like Obama but doubt I could directly blame him unless some evidence comes out. Also I think Obama was pretty good at giving the nod or not letting things even get to him so he can always be free of intent.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: SgtHamsandwich
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Everyone is flashing the can around and jumping for joy, yet no one has said squat about the worms. WTF?




official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia


Why is this not being discussed?


This. So effing this. This is what I want to know. Sure, I wanna know whats up with the meetings and all that. But this was absolutely the first thing that came to mind for me: what did they have on Clinton?!?



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: SgtHamsandwich
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Everyone is flashing the can around and jumping for joy, yet no one has said squat about the worms. WTF?




official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia


Why is this not being discussed?


This. So effing this. This is what I want to know. Sure, I wanna know whats up with the meetings and all that. But this was absolutely the first thing that came to mind for me: what did they have on Clinton?!?


Don't bring the good bottle out and set it on a shelf for everyone to look at. Bust that mofo open and lets get this party started.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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Of course he does.
That's so logical.

That's like blaming the navy blue dress in the Monica/ Bill thing.




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