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Genetic monsters: gifts from ancient astronauts?

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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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I apologize for my bad English:

This article intrigued me,
reading the Bible tells of the garden of Eden a place where Biblical Elohim cultivate all kinds of edible plants. It is curious how, just where the gods had their garden, they were born impossible plants from a genetic point of view, but they fed millions of people.

Here is a part of the translated article:

The birth of a new species

About 8,000 / 9,000 years ago, in the region between Armenia and the southwest of the Caspian Sea, there was a second "impossible" genetic event: the T.dicoccum completely encompassed the genome of another herbaceous plant, the Aegilops tauschii, To create the Triticum spelta, or spelled sprout.Once, although the details are still to be defined, a number of further genetic modifications have brought to our beloved Triticum aestivum: the tender wheat with which we make bread and pizza. It has been Precisely the genus donated by A.tauschii to improve the brewing quality of common wheat flour, and also allowed the cultivation in colder climates and further north, so much so that even today the best common wheat comes from cold climuliùs.

Common wheat is an esaploidy, that is, six copies of each chromosome, coming from the three different species that generated it.



Try thinking about what it means to have six copies of each chromosome, it's as if we (diploid) instead of having 46 of them have three times as much, that is, 138: we would be monsters. While soft wheat does not seem to suffer particularly from the genetic abnormality .

Common wheat therefore, unlike durum wheat, does not have a wild direct correspondent and therefore has a very small biodiversity. With its 95,000 genes and triple the number of chromosomes of the two wild species of Triticum from which it all started, Is a true genetic monster, somewhat sympathetic, like those of Monsters & Co, which in its evolution has, with unmatched "against nature", whole genomes of plants not only of different species but also of different genres.

Here is the full article in Italian


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edit on 14-7-2017 by Cocchino because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:36 PM
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S & F .


I am no biologist, but this seems a tad strange. Two I might believe , but then the odds go up it would seem.

Are you saying this was an "intelligent choice "?

VF



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: VenatiusFortunatus

I'm not an expert, but it's obvious that such extreme mutations can only feel under control ... and the case has wanted these "all positive" mutations to have occurred on plants that fed billions of people.

A similar thing seems to have happened to potatoes in South America, which has incorporated all the DNA of the agribacterium making it edible



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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Theirs was a fusion "unnatural", unusual for two reasons: the first is that it involves members not only of two different species, but also of two different genres - like a cross between a cat and a horse - the second it is because A. speltoides entirely donates its genome T. Urartu and not only half, as in a common sexual cross between members of the same species . The union was born the wild emmer or T. dicoccoides , a new species with double the parental chromosomes. They had two copies of each chromosome, just like us humans, that were diploid, while he has four copies of each chromosome, so it is "tetraploid". Abnormalities in the number of chromosomes in animals usually leads to death


If this is true then this may be evidence of ancient genetic engineering.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 02:04 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks

Theirs was a fusion "unnatural", unusual for two reasons: the first is that it involves members not only of two different species, but also of two different genres - like a cross between a cat and a horse - the second it is because A. speltoides entirely donates its genome T. Urartu and not only half, as in a common sexual cross between members of the same species . The union was born the wild emmer or T. dicoccoides , a new species with double the parental chromosomes. They had two copies of each chromosome, just like us humans, that were diploid, while he has four copies of each chromosome, so it is "tetraploid". Abnormalities in the number of chromosomes in animals usually leads to death


If this is true then this may be evidence of ancient genetic engineering.

How so? It says right in the material you quoted that such 'abnormalities' also occur naturally in animals, though it usually isn't beneficial. In wheat it happened to be beneficial. If nature can do it with animals, why are you surprised that it can also happen with plants?



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

We do not know much about us humans, we are an anomaly. We are not fit for any environment and we have to change it to survive. Every place is hostile, we have no protections (flakes, hairs, claws ...) our physical strength has been reduced.

Let us imagine what we find written in the ancient texts, they clearly affirm that someone has modified it. Even in the bible, Eve's birth is identical to a cloning protocol. Anesthesia, withdrawal of a curved side (ribs, but perhaps illicit crest from where many polyvalent cells are still taken) and then suture of the flesh.

If we continue to imagine it is true, 10/8,000 years ago, ancient men tell of beings who came from the sky and taught farming in Mesopotamia. The writings tell of the Garden of Eden, the Greeks speak of the garden of the Feaci (identical to the biblical Ganeden) of the places where Teoi and Elohim are likely to experience new plant species to nourish the population.

Maybe it's a case, but abnormal beings like us humans have been fed with abnormal plants, real genetic monsters.

It will be a case, but it is undeniable that if one seeks answers to these questions, it is found in ancient texts, which is interesting.
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posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 04:41 AM
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originally posted by: Cocchino
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

We do not know much about us humans, we are an anomaly. We are not fit for any environment and we have to change it to survive. Every place is hostile, we have no protections (flakes, hairs, claws ...) our physical strength has been reduced.


Nah, we know a lot about humans and what you say, even if partially correct, is not the whole truth: animals suffer in certain environments too.

Sure, we sunburn if not protected by clothes or shade, but elephants, rhinos and pigs sunburn too. Are they also an anomaly?

Sure we can die of hypothermia in a cold place without clothes or fire, but our cats and dogs can die in freezing weather. Are they also an anomaly?

Many animals migrate in winter, to more hospitable climates. They fly, walk and swim to survive, that's how they have adapted to the environment.

We do not migrate anymore because we have learned to protect ourselves, we make clothes, build houses and have heating. Why do you think we are an anomaly compared to the rest of the animal kingdom?



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: Agartha

Although many scientists believe that there is no evidence of this, I think there are some interesting elements, and that therefore the hypothesis of a human origin that envisions an active role of external subjects should be screened in several aspects, including the biological one , Certainly with prudence but also with the necessary courage.



posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Cocchino

Why would any aliens want to bother with doing this? It is a huge cost to cross between stars, and then to just screw around with some genes in a plant or two and then leave? Makes no sense.

There is absolutely no value in humans to aliens. They would have mastered the genetics of how to make us and a million other species at their own home planet, so why bother to come here to affect us? Conceivably they would come here to colonize the planet, but then why not get rid of all the stuff here and put down their own optimized organisms? We need to shed the idea we are something special to anybody else in the galaxy. Better creatures than us would be easy for advanced aliens to make.



posted on Jul, 20 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: StanFL
a reply to: Cocchino

Why would any aliens want to bother with doing this? It is a huge cost to cross between stars, and then to just screw around with some genes in a plant or two and then leave? Makes no sense.

There is absolutely no value in humans to aliens. They would have mastered the genetics of how to make us and a million other species at their own home planet, so why bother to come here to affect us? Conceivably they would come here to colonize the planet, but then why not get rid of all the stuff here and put down their own optimized organisms? We need to shed the idea we are something special to anybody else in the galaxy. Better creatures than us would be easy for advanced aliens to make.



I find it probable that they are here because they are afraid of death. According to Corrado Malanga's research, aliens "all the various races" are here for a common goal.

We men have been modified to be "traps" for a being that the ancients called the soul. The aliens do not have this thing is using ours to prolong their lives, into a surrogate of immortality. It also seems that for genetic reasons "the soul engages in human DNA" not everyone has this thing called the soul, but only 20% of the world's population is compatible. That would be why it forces those who command to keep the hidden ufo phenomenon. It is unacceptable that there are 2 types of humans, with the soul and without the soul, the world would end up in chaos in a few months.

I believe that eternal life is a good reason to explore and modify some planet




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