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Russian Counter Intelligence Agent at Collusion Meeting.. Again Jr. Lies..

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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

Except there is no way for the left or the media to have set this up..

This was from a friend of Trump Jrs... to trump jr.. released by trump jr..

What the left has this info and chose not to drop it pre election?!?!

That blows your theory to hell.




posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I'm beginning to think it is somewhere in the middle where maybe Trump isn't as involved as we think but is still more involved then he should be and Putin is playing one of the most cunning games in the history of politics. It is a perfect storm that could only occur with someone as inexperienced as Trump.
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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

It would not surprise me if it turned out that a majority of the leaks are from Russia because it puts Putin in a win-win situation. Either he gets a president that he can influence or control, and if that fails, he can permanently stain the current administration and shake up the country's confidence.


The leaks are from inside the white house. Trump insulted the wrong one of his staff and someone is taking revenge.

There is no loyalty in Trumps staff he shames them publicly for imagined insults. You reap what you sow....
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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

That wouldn't surprise me either because of Trump's combative personality.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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this could play out much worse for the democrats and Hillary as the more they dig the more likely it is the information about Hillary will come to light and that information is likely to be treasonous.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: libertytoall
this could play out much worse for the democrats and Hillary as the more they dig the more likely it is the information about Hillary will come to light and that information is likely to be treasonous.


they have plenty of info on Hillary. Why hasn't Trump pursued an incitement like he promised during his campaign?



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Except there is no way for the left or the media to have set this up..

This was from a friend of Trump Jrs... to trump jr.. released by trump jr..

What the left has this info and chose not to drop it pre election?!?!

That blows your theory to hell.


Yeah the theory makes no sense if you just ignore everything that supports my theory. McCain and Rinat Akhmetshin and McMaster attended 2016 Halifax Forum where McCain was given the steele fan fiction. Lynch used the Donald Junior meeting with the russian lawyer to wiretap Manaforts phone. Anatoli Samochornov(worked for the FBI and state department) was used as a translator to speak with Veselnitskaya. Oops what a coincidence. FusionGPS info was picked up by the DNC. FusionGPS can be linked back to April Lorenzen who was in charge in fabricating fake DNS data to justify spying on Trump and his campaign. Steele was pissed because the FBI just laughed when he presented his fan fiction to them. Comey stated the fan fiction was bull# in a public hearing. Fusion GPS co founder suddenly decides not to testify meanwhile Donald junior is eager to testify. Yeah he is probably guilty.


This looks awfully like i don't know lets call it entrapment. That is a serious crime btw.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: libertytoall
this could play out much worse for the democrats and Hillary as the more they dig the more likely it is the information about Hillary will come to light and that information is likely to be treasonous.


they have plenty of info on Hillary. Why hasn't Trump pursued an incitement like he promised during his campaign?


*sigh* Would you believed it if he released the info just soon after he took office? Please be completely honest.
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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Why does it matter there was a spy there??

The dude's an American citizen.

Should we kick him out and send him back to Russia?



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

I'm with you on that.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I like what you did there.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: libertytoall
this could play out much worse for the democrats and Hillary as the more they dig the more likely it is the information about Hillary will come to light and that information is likely to be treasonous.


they have plenty of info on Hillary. Why hasn't Trump pursued an incitement like he promised during his campaign?


*sigh* Would you believed it if he released the info just soon after he took office? Please be completely honest.


I don't care what happens to Hillary...I didn't vote for her. Why hasn't Trump filed an indictment like he promised.
Crooked Hillery...remember.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

Happy Birthday.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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its not illegal to get info on another canidate. its only illegal if you use it to BLACKMAIL or intimidate them.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
its not illegal to get info on another canidate. its only illegal if you use it to BLACKMAIL or intimidate them.


That's what everyone keeps forgetting. Opposition research is not illegal, not even if you are getting it from your country's worst enemy.

That is exactly why nothing was done even when it became known that Teddy Kennedy did travel to the USSR to try to enlist Soviet help unseating Reagan in 1984.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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What was this Akhmetshin guy doing at the white house for 13 hrs before the meeting with Jr?




white house log link
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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Except there is no way for the left or the media to have set this up..

This was from a friend of Trump Jrs... to trump jr.. released by trump jr..

What the left has this info and chose not to drop it pre election?!?!

That blows your theory to hell.


Yeah the theory makes no sense if you just ignore everything that supports my theory. McCain and Rinat Akhmetshin and McMaster attended 2016 Halifax Forum where McCain was given the steele fan fiction. Lynch used the Donald Junior meeting with the russian lawyer to wiretap Manaforts phone. Anatoli Samochornov(worked for the FBI and state department) was used as a translator to speak with Veselnitskaya. Oops what a coincidence. FusionGPS info was picked up by the DNC. FusionGPS can be linked back to April Lorenzen who was in charge in fabricating fake DNS data to justify spying on Trump and his campaign. Steele was pissed because the FBI just laughed when he presented his fan fiction to them. Comey stated the fan fiction was bull# in a public hearing. Fusion GPS co founder suddenly decides not to testify meanwhile Donald junior is eager to testify. Yeah he is probably guilty.


This looks awfully like i don't know lets call it entrapment. That is a serious crime btw.


The more you look at the connections to Steele and Fusion gps it looks like a set up. Something you didn't mention but is interesting is According to The Washington Post, Fusion GPS “did work on a lawsuit that involved Veselnitskaya for more than two years.” The Post reports that “Fusion GPS has said that it was working for the law firm BakerHostetler, which was representing Prevezon, a Russian holding company based in Cyprus, in its defense against Justice Department allegations that Prevezon laundered money stolen in the fraud Magnitsky uncovered.” and the other is in the law suit this woman worked with, The complaint alleges that Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS “has been hired by Prevezon to lobby for the anti-Magnitsky campaign.” The complaint says that Vladimir Putin made it his “primary foreign policy objective” to get the Magnitsky Act defeated and adds that Prevezon is owned by a man named Denis Katsyv.

So we have a woman that works for a Russian oligarch which is the Russian government working directly with the DNC through Fusion. This directly ties the Russians to the DNC. This is why no one wanted to bring up this meeting. But the Trump administration going through there meeting's updated there security filing. Think they were just paranoid. After the update the information was leaked and was not supposed to ever be reported.
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posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 12:03 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

Also you could have the FBI,CIA and NSA being pissed!!!

From their pov..

They have been fighting Russia for decades (right or wrong) and here comes some jack @$$ willing to "betray the country" to win an election.. and now a Russian stooge is in the White House.. a Russian stooge who has been openly mocking them???


I think they have been doing it.. maybe them
And the Whitehouse.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: libertytoall

BWAHAHAHA there is wishful thinking?!?

Trump could have started any investigation he wanted to , any day he wanted to..


Infact what better way to draw attention away from him getting busted?!?!

Either they didn't do anything illegal or they didnt leave evidence.. either way good luck.

It appears they weren't stupid enough to send very explicit emails that literally spelled it out.




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