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Russian Counter Intelligence Agent at Collusion Meeting.. Again Jr. Lies..

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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: TacSite18

And why do people think this dossier contains false information?
Nothing has been proven false . There are only parts that at the time of buzzfeeds revelation had not been verified.
More has since then.
What's the issue?




posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox







So now we know there was a Russia counter intelligence agent in the room.. if it was just attempted collusion where it was a sham. Why would a suspected Russian agent and a confirmed Russian agent be there???



I think Trumps whole presidency is some kind of black psychological intelligence plot. This may help to confirm it.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I'm pretty sure if trump had any evidence on Clinton that proved any crime he'd be using it right now. He's already been told by the dept of justice that there is nothing prosecutable in any of their findings and to let it go.


Did you even read my previous posts? I already laid out why this is a bad and stupid plan. Btw i'm looking on all of this russian fluster cuck from a strategic standpoint devoid of any feelings and emotions. If you follow the hard facts it becomes abundantly clear that the previous administration worked on a plan to get Hillary elected. Unfortunately they forgot to include an escape plan when it all goes horribly wrong and wouldn't result in ousting an illegal surveillance apparatus. Basically they #ed up and are now scrambling to salvage the situation. No matter what i tell you you wouldn't believe me anyway so here is my newest prediction.

Keep an eye on the news in the next few days. Everything that involves Mueller is very important but don't just concentrate on the statement and try to read between the lines. The hearing before the IJC will clear Donald junior but in the process they will find something very strange and they will be forced to investigate it further. The MSM will be forced to report that as well and they will not like it one bit. There is already a rumor circulating about Comey getting an immunity deal to avoid criminal charges. If that happens Hillary(currently under house arrest) and the DNC will go nuclear. There is also the "special" date july 27th.




edit on 14-7-2017 by Perfectenemy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:06 PM
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"Special date July 27th."?
C'mon....you need to tell us more about that.
Not fair to keep us hanging.

A few more tidbits please.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Perfectenemy


"Special date July 27th."?
C'mon....you need to tell us more about that.
Not fair to keep us hanging.

A few more tidbits please.


Lets just say the russian collusion story will finally crash and burn and the focus will be completely shifted to a bigger scandal that will not involve Trump at all. At least that's what i read between the lines of a message White House Anon posted.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Perfectenemy


"Special date July 27th."?
C'mon....you need to tell us more about that.
Not fair to keep us hanging.

A few more tidbits please.


Lets just say the russian collusion story will finally crash and burn and the focus will be completely shifted to a bigger scandal that will not involve Trump at all. At least that's what i read between the lines of a message White House Anon posted.


Okay. I know what you're talking about. I just hadn't remembered a specific date mentioned.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
www.google.com...



"When Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya met with members of then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign team, she brought a guest — a former Soviet counterintelligence officer.
The man at the June 2016 meeting with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort is a Russian-born American lobbyist who also served in the Soviet military, NBC News reported. The lobbyist, Rinat Akhmetshin, has been reported to have ties with Russian intelligence, though he denies the connections."


So now we know there was a Russia counter intelligence agent in the room.. if it was just attempted collusion where it was a sham. Why would a suspected Russian agent and a confirmed Russian agent be there???

They wouldn't...

Some one is making sure trump goes down for this.. they are dropping out info , imho specifically because they know Jr. will lie and say

"nope I swear that this is all there is.. nothing else to see here. "

Then releasing proof he is lying a couple days later..

Why are we pretending there is any chance Trump jr was scammed, when it is obvious this was the meeting that set up the deal in the first place?????

We know they went there thinking they would meet a Russian intelligence agent to get stolen documents as part of the Russian governments support for trump..

We know the kind of people with the connections Russia's government who could make a deal were there to...

So why would we ever believe a known liars story about it.






Obviously this was the guy who was chosen as the interpreter for the woman who didn't speak a word of English...But the question is; 'at this point what does it matter'....

If Boris and Natashia were here illegally, that needs to be hung around Obama's neck...He was responsible for them being here whether they were legal or not...

Nothing was discussed about Hillary...Nothing illegal took place...It's a non story, fake news, just like has been happening for the last year...



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Iscool

He's been her interpreter in the past...and is an American citizen.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Putin likely made a deal with Trump to lift sanctions and return his compounds in exchange for leaking material against the DNC and Clinton but Trump probably backed off because of scrutiny from FBI and now Putin is burning him with leaks against him.


It's possible that Trump and members of his glamorous entourage are all subject to blackmail by the Russians. It might account for some of the poor "decisions" they are making, like this recent one of returning the compounds, and leading Putin to believe that the Russians can participate in our "cyber security".

I really hope not, but I do wonder about it.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Why do you continue to post things that are intentionally misleading? You keep stating things as absolute fact when they are not.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I'm pretty sure if trump had any evidence on Clinton that proved any crime he'd be using it right now. He's already been told by the dept of justice that there is nothing prosecutable in any of their findings and to let it go.


It's nice to reimagine what was actually said and bend it to your narrative, but that is false. They made some stupid excuse about intent and reasonable prosecution. They never said there was nothing.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Some parts have been independently verified. Some have not. Most of the detail is in the links I provided.

As I noted above, I am just putting out some data I have gathered that seems pretty legit. I am not passing judgement at this time. We might have to wait months or years, but eventually this will come out (mostly).




posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:50 PM
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posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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'The lobbyist, Rinat Akhmetshin, has been reported to have ties with Russian intelligence, though he denies the connections."


So now we know there was a Russia counter intelligence agent in the room.. '


pure gold my friend pure gold..



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Fair enough.. I know the email was worded like a really bad narc officers scrip to his suspect..

"So you want me to buy 2.2lbs of the illegal narcotic Cochin, correct??""


That dues strike me as fishy.. it isn't how real humans talk lol.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: libertytoall

Oh know they know he was a counter intelligence agent he just claims he had retired before the meeting.

O yes there was absolutely a Russian counterintelligence agent in the room.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Drip, drip drip, that's the sound to be heard when someone is pissing on the people.

You're mistaken...that's the 'trickle-down' economics you hear! It's America being great again!



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: ladyinwaiting

It would not surprise me if it turned out that a majority of the leaks are from Russia because it puts Putin in a win-win situation. Either he gets a president that he can influence or control, and if that fails, he can permanently stain the current administration and shake up the country's confidence.



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: Ksihkehe

Except for trump promised he would prosecute her, and prosecuting her would divert attention away from him colluding..

That's what is called a win , win..

Except he isn't.. hasn't made any noticeable move to, and has the authority of every law enforcement agency in the country..

See that the problem about running your campaign on conspiracy theories.. once your the most powerful man in the country you must be in on it..



posted on Jul, 14 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: MonkeyFishFrog

Now that is a fair assessment..

Maybe trump is just flat out guilty or maybe trump was willing to collude, but Russia chose to set him up..

Trump being innocent isn't on the table..

That said when you read the email it is so incriminating it seems fake..

Do they really need to refer to the fully written out "Russian government" every single time?!?!

It's written like a bad narc officers script to a suspect..




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