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Russian Counter Intelligence Agent at Collusion Meeting.. Again Jr. Lies..

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posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
Ah # it here goes nothing. Anatoli Samochornov (Translator) and Natalia Veselnitskaya (Lawyer) worked for USSD prior to meeting with Donald Trump Junior. So the DNC did knew about them.


i.4cdn.org...

USSD? This image does not show that, but instead talks about US NGO Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation... whose website is pretty bare-bones: hragi.org...




posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Do you even know who this guy is? He's a lobbyist who lobbies against the magnitsky act. What did the russian lawyer yammer on about in the meeting? The magnitsky act. You're again being pulled in directions that have no evidence. Lay off the MSM headlines, they tend to bury the meat that disproves their headlines.
www.nbcnews.com...

In the professional world he navigates, "there are no absolutely clean good guys of any kind," LeVine said. "But he is one of the least bad guys working for some of the least bad guys.


This crap belongs in the hoax bin.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

So how did they get Trump jr to collude? What made him take the deal?



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

The act is in response to sanctions.. so basically he was asking them to lift sanctions..

Trading counter intelligence for lifting sanctions.. hmm exactly the conspiracy theory..



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

And yet it made the home page..



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

So Russia was playing trump the whole time shocking..

Trump being innocent isn't even on the table anymore..

It's if he was a partner or a patsy.. both are empeachable.. especially as stuff will continue to drop.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

What? The magnitsky act actually loosened sanctions on russia. It repealed the jackson-vanik amendment which was much more broad. The magnitsky act affects 18 people. 18 people believed to be responsible for the death of sergei magnitsky. None of those 18 people were vladamir putin and vladamir putin was not president when magnitsky was killed.

Here are the 18:


Artyom Kuznetsov, a tax investigator for the Moscow division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
Pavel Karpov, a senior investigator for the Moscow division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
Oleg F. Silchenko, a senior investigator for the Ministry of Internal Affairs
Olga Stepanova, head of Moscow Tax Office No. 28
Yelena Stashina, Tverskoy District Court judge who prolonged Magnitsky's detention
Andrey Pechegin, deputy head of the investigation supervision division of the general prosecutor's office
Aleksey Droganov
Yelena Khimina
Dmitriy Komnov
Aleksey Krivoruchko, Tverskoy District Court judge
Oleg Logunov
Sergei G. Podoprigorov, Tverskoy District Court judge
Ivan Pavlovitch Prokopenko
Dmitri M. Tolchinskiy
Svetlana Ukhnalyova
Natalya V. Vinogradova
Kazbek Dukuzov, Chechen acquitted of the murder of Paul Klebnikov
Lecha Bogatyrov, implicated by Austrian authorities as the murderer of Umar Israilov


Don't get me wrong, russia definitely wants the magnitsky act gone, but they haven't got it removed and going to trump (or Jr.) would be a poor way to get it removed.

But there are a number of problems with your argument. First obama didn't want the magnitsky act passed (that dirty russian plant!).
Second, obama only agreed to sign the magnitsky act to get the jackson-vanik amendment passed (that dirty russian plant!).
Third, Trump cannot remove the magnitsky act without the support of congress.
Fourth, no hillary dirt was given.
Fifth, Your counter intelligence agent hasn't been a counter intelligence agent for ~30 years and in fact has been a US citizen for a while now.

edit on 16-7-2017 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Many of hoaxes have made it to the front page here.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Xcathdra

So Russia was playing trump the whole time shocking..

Trump being innocent isn't even on the table anymore..

It's if he was a partner or a patsy.. both are empeachable.. especially as stuff will continue to drop.



Not sure what empeachable is but you've got no case for impeachable. High crimes and misdemeanors. Even if russian "collusion" were true, you've got neither high crimes nor misdemeanors.



posted on Jul, 15 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: IAMTAT

So how did they get Trump jr to collude? What made him take the deal?


Dems colluded...MSM colluded...Russia colluded...Trump colluded...Podesta colluded...Bill colluded...Hillary colluded...Lynch colluded... who else?

"Collusion" in and of itself is NOT a crime.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

MSM and hillary (well, podesta, the head of her campaign) actually committed the crime of conspiracy against Trump. The DNC and podesta committed that crime as well, against sanders.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Dfairlite

The act is in response to sanctions.. so basically he was asking them to lift sanctions..

Trading counter intelligence for lifting sanctions.. hmm exactly the conspiracy theory..


Any audio transcripts of lifting sanctions from Jrs mouth personally? ALso Jr was a private citizen at the time and unless the sanctions were dropped there has been no crime committed.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Yes when he said the meeting was about Russian adoptions..

They stopped adoptions due to sanctions and will not lift he adoption ban until the sanctions are lifted..


So yea he said that himself.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

pizzagate om nom nom



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

You realize that being lobbied to remove the magnitsky act is not collusion, right?



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

It is if you are trading with Russian agents for counter intelligence in exchange for dropping sanctions..

BEFORE you are president and have the authority to make decisions fir the entire country..


This wasn't America making a lawful deal with Russia.

This is a random American citizen going behind the backs of the rest of us and colluding with a foreign adversary.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: growler

I think they figured out that was all part of the Russian psy-op. Just part of the legit fake news trump was helping them spout.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


It is if you are trading with Russian agents for counter intelligence in exchange for dropping sanctions..

Have sanctions been dropped? Do you have evidence that this promise was made?


BEFORE you are president and have the authority to make decisions fir the entire country..

What decision did he make? And you realize that a campaign is putting your ideas out there, before you can actually make the decisions, right?


This wasn't America making a lawful deal with Russia.

What deal was made? Make sure you provide evidence of such a deal, your beliefs don't matter.


This is a random American citizen going behind the backs of the rest of us and colluding with a foreign adversary.

Incorrect on all counts. All you've gotten is mccarthyism, nothing more.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

He got caught lol can't drop sanctions when you get caught.. there is clear evidence for him trying to lift sanctions. ..

The decision he made was that the American people were ok with helping a foreign agency swing the election.



posted on Jul, 16 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

and yet no foreign interference swayed the outcome of the election. The only tampering that occurred was during the Democratic primary when the DNC colluded with the Clinton campaign to deny Sanders the nomination.
edit on 16-7-2017 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



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