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sputniksteve
Steve, I'm shocked! How could you try and convince yourself the events didn't take place still?
After accepting that convincing paranormal occurrences such as these have indeed taken place, the next step along the path is Esotericism. To gather
knowledge along that path though will require one to change ones state ontologically, and that sort of knowledge will never be democratized. Therefore
even if the vertical plane book became well known amongst the general public you still won't be any closer to unlocking it's mysteries. (so who cares
if hollywierd makes it into a blockbuster or not?!)
What symbol was on the book Thomas gave to Debbie in her dream? The Caduceus!
Thomas was an alchemist, he had some occult knowledge and he must have been very disappointed when he noticed Debbie didn't recognize the symbol.
Also, Thomas being equipped with a strong will and being very emotional (emotions are powers, a centre of gravity) he was the catalyst to the
doddleston events. all the entities involved needed thomas (and debbie, to a lesser extent.)
Every human exists in the three worlds at once, Causal(divine), subtle(spiritual) and then physical(human).although latently. I suspect most of what
happened in TVP took place in the subtle realm, the world just above this one, I also suspect that's where thomas's book is. There's no time and no
space there either, time and space are only human brain functions. How could we get his book down here? That's a good question.
It's alot easier for entities in the other worlds to contact you directly, without the use of ITK, but they send messages to your subconscious( which
really is a part of the soul complex) the conscious mind gets in the way of these messages. Another thing that gets in the way of their messages are
desires. A still, quiet soul without desires is perfect for transmissions because a disgruntled soul filled with fears and desires will use your
imagination to cloud the messages, and the original will almost be lost. Say a message does get through perfectly into your clear soul, most likely
you won't remember it. There are practices which will train you to remember your dreams every night and to have visions etc which is why Esoteric
science is so useful.
The computer which recorded the messages from 2109 and Debbie herself, on a deep level they are of the same substance. It's the humans which transfer
the message from the subconscious to the computer.( or w/e ITK device) So the computer and debbie and ken were the same entity, but one a deep level
of their being. The words which appeared on the screen was from them, not 2109. 2109's messages were sent to them, but not with English words. The
entities original message would have been too great for the human language.
This immeasurable substance comes from Tachyons( the central fire), the human spirit breaks off a part of the tachyon and it turns into spirit (you
could call it a skalar wave). Everything is made from this. Disembodied spirits which fly over your head are made from it too. Some people create
these spirits themselves. No clumsy human machine can measure it though. This is where a little faith comes into play.
Aside from studying (and PRACTICING) esotericism, I think the next most useful thing would be to share experiences here.
Has anyone had dreams about TVP? Seen white lights in the sky? had premonitions? Any visions?
Surely there's some lurkers who read this board who have, now's the time to share.
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