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No, I stopped reading because it became clear you were not engaging in anything but emotional blackmail. You want me to agree and will use that tactic in order to make disagreeing seem morally repugnant.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: SeaWorthy
You have the inalienable right to the pursuit, not the attainment, of happiness. Whether you achieve said happiness is irrelevant to your inalienable right; whether the pursuit is difficult is not the role of the government to subsidize or "fix."
originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: Boadicea
I really hate this.
We need to shrink big govt and get the money back to the people. When we are able to pick and choose with our own money the prices will drop. We are just letting these industries set the price and force us to pay.
Or you could join the rest of the 1st world (and a lot of the 2nd world) and go for socialized healthcare.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: AboveBoard
Why not insurance? The costs of healthcare are astronomical- we should work on bringing those down - but they are what they are and to destabilize such a necessary industry is insane.
While your point about government subsidies for the greater good are well taken, in the case of healthcare, I would say that insurance is not the appropriate model for providing healthcare. At one time, when docs either fixed you up or you died, it may have been practical. But not today when so many health conditions are managed long-term rather than cured. People need healthcare -- not health insurance.
Nor can we ignore one of (if not thee) greatest costs in healthcare: Big Pharma monopolies.
I've heard a conservative expert claim that the down side is how the current competition in the US system drives innovation and that we, and the rest of the the world, would lose that. I'm not sure I agree with that.
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: Boadicea
I have hope for you guys across the pond. I really do think the tide is turning with regards to the attitude towards universal healthcare
originally posted by: SeaWorthy
The role of the government is not for a lot of things that it is doing and using your money for. It awes me that this is ok by you. You seem to want to be a worm and let them be the Robin. Unless of course, you are one of those Robins.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: SlapMonkey
I don't think we'd be any better off with a government run healthcare system than a corporate run healthcare system. ... So in terms of funding, I think we could actually do more with less with a basic universal health plan.
Look at Charlie Gard, who has my heart twisted in knots right now!!! ...
So I think we need to start with a Patients' Bill of Rights, that will put health first, and allow patients to make their own decisions both with and without their doctors. Then we go from there.
I think a public/private option could be combined as well, much like school vouchers that allow kids to attend private schools and charter schools, with the parents covering the difference out of pocket. Doctors could be reimbursed a flat fee for patient visits, and doctors could charge a little more to the patients willing to pay it.
I also think we could greatly expand the points of delivery, from school nurses offices to drug store clinics, etc. We could use our current technology for doctor "appointments" along the lines of phone/email consultations and even Skype or Facetime appointments. We could allow Nurse Practitioners and Physicians assistants to handle more of the basic healthcare needs, reserving doctors for more serious cases. I think the free market and lots of innovative people could come up with even more and probably better.
We could also convert more prescription drugs to OTC drugs. So the mom who knows her kid has an ear infection doesn't have to take time off from work to take her kid to the doctor and pay for a visit just to be told what she already knows in order to get the medicine he needs. Amoxicillin and Bactrim are fairly safe (barring any allergies!).
We also need to break the stranglehold of Big Pharma, and research and promote cheap, often readily available natural remedies. Cannabis products, of course. But also things like colloidal silver and other natural antibiotics like olive leaf extract or oregano oil. Aloe Vera is amazing for lots of things from burns and other skin conditions, to upset tummies and constipation, even irritable bowel syndrome. And good old-fashioned vitamins like C and D and niacinamide. We spend an awful lot of hard-earned tax dollars on research that benefits the deep pockets far more than us. Sure, that $1000 bottle of pills might do the trick... but so might that $20 bottle of colloidal silver. But neither Big Pharma nor the FDA has any interest in studying silver and its efficacy -- or any medicine that cannot be patented and monopolized. That needs to change.
And, of course, we also need to educate the people, ... Basically teach people when and how to take care of their own bodies whenever possible, and when we need to turn to professionals.