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This whole thing was a hoax. This is why.

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posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: kurthall

I knew you would show up sorry to disappoint you but what you want is not gonna happen. I would call it more like a doubletrap because Trump turned the obvious trap into his trap and of course they fell for it. Now let's wait and see what the journalists will uncover when they connect the dots because they have to report it now no matter what they find. Here is a hint. Obamas administration used a certain person to fabricate evidence to warrant a false FISA surveillance of the Trump Tower. The russian narrative was a backup plan if Hillary wouldn't win but alot of people #ed up royally. I'm pretty comfy right now that this will backfire tremendously. It's nice to watch how the puzzle pieces all fall into place. War is coming.




you are full of suppositions, but at the end of your piece...it's a puzzle????




posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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Trump Jr asked Natalia, someone he never even heard of, whether she has dirt on Hillary like Ron Goldstone said. That's not soliciting. That's verifying.



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Trump Jr asked Natalia, someone he never even heard of, whether she has dirt on Hillary like Ron Goldstone said. That's not soliciting. That's verifying.


If Junior and the scenario is so innocent....Why did Junior lie about it over and over, change his story. Manafort is going to spill his guts soon enough. He's not going down with this cluster ****! believe me.

This is far from over. Deal with it....



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

No...


He sent an email to trump Jr. Saying ...


the Russian government had official US documents that incriminated Hillary and would be willing to provide them as proof of the Russian governments support for his father..

That is not.. some random lawyer had info on Hillary.....



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

"The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin."




Here is what trump Jr.. just loved..



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

No the info was offered to him and he accepted it .. excitedly..



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

That is a BS email. Russia is a republic. No such thing as crown prosecutor in Russia. Also, if the wanted to hurt Hillary without tracing to them or Trump, they would have leaked to the MSM.

It was Hillary caught calling Trump supporters deplorables that killed HIllary's chances. Guess who published that? AP.
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posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

The email was released by trump jr. Himself...

It is undeniable...


The "Russian crown prosecutor " was the authors pet name for the lawyer..

Who is talking about Hillary?!?!

This is Trump jr. Specifically going to a meeting to get US government documents from a Russian intelligence agent.. specifically so Russia could have their choice candidate in the us election..



AND HE WENT!!!




This is "F'n" horrible anyway you crack it..



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye

Goldstone is from the UK, this is just him refering to the attorney general
Also, they werent interested in just hurting Hillary. They wanted an iou from Trump for hurting Hillary



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Don't FORGET Trump Sr. had a press conference right after learning about THIS...bragging and HINTING at having something on Hillary.

Trump Sr. totally knew.

Timelines dude...
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posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: ItsNotIronic

Seriously? You actually believe that little Donnie was going there to collect 'evidence of a crime' which he was then going to rush over to the FBI? Are you really THAT naive?

Yes. He was told the Russian lady had evidence of the Dems accepting illegal campaign contributions from foreign sources.

Even if he didn't plan to turn it over to the authorities, are you seriously going to argue that seeking evidence of your opponent's crimes is itself illegal, because that evidence happens to come from a foreigner?
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posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: ItsNotIronic

Seriously? You actually believe that little Donnie was going there to collect 'evidence of a crime' which he was then going to rush over to the FBI? Are you really THAT naive?

are you seriously going to argue that seeking evidence of your opponent's crimes is itself illegal, because that evidence happens to come from a foreigner?


YES.

That's how campaign laws are written.



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: ItsNotIronic

Seriously? You actually believe that little Donnie was going there to collect 'evidence of a crime' which he was then going to rush over to the FBI? Are you really THAT naive?

are you seriously going to argue that seeking evidence of your opponent's crimes is itself illegal, because that evidence happens to come from a foreigner?


YES.

That's how campaign laws are written.

And which law would that be? And please don't point out that one campaign finance law. Most real lawyers say that trying to spin this as "something of value" is a stretch, at best, because it's never been interpreted to mean anything other than tangible items of monetary value.



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox
adding a bit of spin to your posts? You mentioned 'Official US documents' and 'US government documents '.

What was mentioned in the email was 'some official documents '. Nothing was mentioned about the documents being official US government documents.


edit on 12-7-2017 by oddnutz because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
Rod Goldstone is a publicist. And publicists live for stunts like this. He sent an email to Trump Jr that someone has info on Hillary, go check it out. He sent an email to Natalia to talk to someone about adoption. Rod Goldstone never told either person who they are meeting with. It was a set up, plain and simple. Natalia didn't have anything on Hillary. Trump Jr wasn't interested in adoption. If Natalia did have dirt on Hillary, she would have leaked it to the MSM rather than give it to Trump Jr. If she wanted money, she would have asked Trump Jr to pay for it. In any event, she did not have dirt on Hillary. This Rod Goldstone is a liar. This is hoax. End of story.


And your proof is what, exactly?



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: jtma508
So when someone pretends to be a 12yo girl and communicates with some middle-aged guy and tells him she's alone at home and to come by to fool around... and the guy comes... but there's no girl and he doesn't do anything, is he innocent? And if so, why is he arrested? Intent?


What statute has been, or was attempting to have been broken?

Please highlight the elements involved.



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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Neither Trump Jr and Natalia even knew who they were meeting with coming into the meeting. It was a blind date. Ron Goldstone told different things to both of them. It was a blind date. Nothing more.



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: allsee4eye

Can't wait to see the reactions when people find out where this is gonna lead them too. 27th july is going to be highly entertaining because on that day this will all blow up in their faces. I'm just smiling like crazy when i'm reading all the comments on here thinking this would damage Trump in any way. They truly are blind to the obvious traps. We will have alot of fun in the next 2 weeks.




Wow, okay. Really? This already has damaged trump! Obvious traps? Well apparently Jr fell for "obvious traps" You cant take back what he said. He was excited about the "sensitive info" from the Russian government. On FOX Jr, played it way down, because in his response, he says "if its what you say, I love it." he says that after being told that the Russians Support trump and his campaign, and had damning info on Clinton.

You also cant take back all of trumps tweets trying to mislead the American public about Russia. Saying there was no investigation, there was no Russia story....blah blah blah....on and on!!! This pretty much shoots down all of those tweets, that you could use to your advantage, because they were lies.......



Sensitive info huh ? like the kind the Hillary/DNC/Never Trumpers paid a foreign national to get from the Russians on Trump.. They F'ing PAID..


You and your kind are nothing but hypocrites. Its why no one takes you or the fake news seriously.. This and the whole Russian thing is bogus.. You guys like to cling to loosing causes just like you did with Hillary. Ride that turd all the way down the drain.
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posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: jtma508
So when someone pretends to be a 12yo girl and communicates with some middle-aged guy and tells him she's alone at home and to come by to fool around... and the guy comes... but there's no girl and he doesn't do anything, is he innocent? And if so, why is he arrested? Intent?

Unfortunately for you , collusion doesnt work like that...
Youre not from around here , er ya ?



posted on Jul, 12 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

That is an excellent analogy..

Unless they have written some pedophile law where that is a special case..




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