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Breaking: Russia Lawyer Veselnitskaya Worked with Obama's Ambassador to Russia?

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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: RazorV66

This would seem to explain why FusionGPS is refusing
to cooperate with Congressional Investigators.

They have been asked twice to respond to inquiries
naming thier Democratic Client that requested and paid
for the discredited dossier.

Let's take a wild guess they will be subpoenaed,
and refuse to cooperate.



They will all sit there with smirks on their faces and plead the 5th, if it gets that far.
Congressional Committees should have the authority to arrest and jail people.




posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:26 PM
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Well that's interesting she had the contacts to have the sanctions removed but yet contacted Trump's people. That's very odd to say the least.



posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

Well, said. Yes. the people will investigate but who listens to the people? MSM will never bring this up. Can't look in the other direction, it may bite you.



posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: burntheships

Really this is sedition. The election is over. Someone needs to validate our government again.



here are two names that might bring up some connections.

And an a few NGO's

Open Dialog Foundation
Meridian International Center

Antatoli Samochornov worked with Natalia Veselnitskaya
...with Samochornov being a program officer at the FBI,
He also worked for Meridian International Center, a subcontractor
for the US State Department!



Bingo!

Added this to the OP as well.


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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: windword

And you voted for former lawyer who repped for child rapist, knew he did it and got him off ...

See how that works?


If HRC then went on to lobby for lighter laws, amnesty or light sentences for rapist, you might have a point. This woman represented people who were convicted of theft of State money, money laundering and human rights violations. It's one thing to work to defend the scum of the earth. It's quite another to lobby to ease up on sanctions of convicted criminals.

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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
Well that's interesting she had the contacts to have the sanctions removed but yet contacted Trump's people. That's very odd to say the least.


So now it's interesting and odd?
What happened to the claims of collusion?


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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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Now we know why the Dems are so sure Trump is colluding with Russia... because they set this up themselves, with the specific intent of starting the Russia narrative.



originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: RazorV66

This would seem to explain why FusionGPS is refusing
to cooperate with Congressional Investigators.

They have been asked twice to respond to inquiries
naming thier Democratic Client that requested and paid
for the discredited dossier.

Let's take a wild guess they will be subpoenaed,
and refuse to cooperate.


And of course, if Trump Jr. is supposed to have done something wrong here, then FusionGPS and the Dems did the exact same thing.

I'm thinking the Dems will suddenly tone down their rhetoric over the next day or two, once someone points out that they're sawing off the branch that they're standing on themselves.


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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Now we know why the Dems are so sure Trump is colluding with Russia... because they set this up themselves, with the specific intent of starting the Russia narrative.



originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: RazorV66

This would seem to explain why FusionGPS is refusing
to cooperate with Congressional Investigators.

They have been asked twice to respond to inquiries
naming thier Democratic Client that requested and paid
for the discredited dossier.

Let's take a wild guess they will be subpoenaed,
and refuse to cooperate.




I'm thinking the Dems will suddenly tone down their rhetoric over the next day or two, once someone points out that they're sawing off the branch that they're standing on themselves.


I doubt they will tone down anything.
They've bet the farm on this set up...and can't turn back now.

This is the point where people start having unfortunate accidents.


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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: derfreebie

Great Catch, if not for the week! F/S.



This FusionGPS connection has been gnawing on me
For months. Now to find along the other
connections to The State Deparment and The FBI
under Obama and Clinton, it is just too much.

There must be an iceberg here...



posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

I think you are burning the iceberg down.

While MSM is looking for collusion (and they can get the same info you have) is anyone going to look at the dems for possible entrapment?



posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Lmao. This is how this played out:

QUICK! WE NEED DAMAGE CONTROL! The Gateway Pundit publishes a picture of Natalia Veselnitskaya sitting behind Ambassador McFaul and claims she is "sitting with" him from which you further spin to "working with."

Throw in a vague, unsourced allegation from a Trump lawyer that Veselnitskaya is *somehow* tied to Fusion GPS and presto! A bulls# distraction.

Natalia Veselnitskaya is not an unknown person and she's certainly no friend to the Obama administration. And she could care a less about "Russian adoption."

This is the FAKEST "fake news" of the day.

Veselnitskaya represents Denis Katsyv, a mobbed up son of a Russian official (his father is VP of the Russian state-owned railways and a former deputy governor of Moscow) and his interests. Specifically, she represented his company, Prevezon Holdings, who Preet Bharara drug into court because they were laundering money (and buying expensive NY real estate) from the $230 million tax fraud case uncovered by Sergei Magnitsky who was then assassinated, resulting in the sanctioning of 44 Russians (The Magnitsky Act).

In response to the Magnitsky Act, Putin banned Americans from adopting Russian babies. That's the "Russian adoption" nonsense.

I don't even have to watch the video to know why she was there. Veselnitskaya spends a good deal of her time lobbying against the Magnitsky Act. June of 2016 is when the anti-Magnitsky film The Magnitsky Act — Behind the Scenes premiered.

Good grief. The desperation.
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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: Maluhia
a reply to: burntheships

According to this "insider", high ranking members of the GOP don't want the swamp drained as much as the DNC doesn't. He calls them the GOP #nevertrump

They are working in concert.



mobile.twitter.com...


Great flow chart, thanks for posting.

It is time a full scale investigation is
launched into Fusion GPS.

They seem to be infiltrated by Russian double agents.


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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: burntheships

Lmao. This is how this played out:

QUICK! WE NEED DAMAGE CONTROL! The Gateway Pundit publishes a picture of Natalia Veselnitskaya sitting behind Ambassador McFaul and claims she is "sitting with" him from which you further spin to "working with."

Throw in a vague, unsourced allegation from a Trump lawyer that Veselnitskaya is *somehow* tied to Fusion GPS and presto! A bulls# distraction.

Natalia Veselnitskaya is not an unknown person and she's certainly no friend to the Obama administration. And she could care a less about "Russian adoption."

This is the FAKEST "fake news" of the day.

Veselnitskaya represents Denis Katsyv, a mobbed up son of a Russian official (his father is VP of the Russian state-owned railways and a former deputy governor of Moscow) and his interests. Specifically, she represented his company, Prevezon Holdings who Preet Bharara drug into court because they were laundering money (and buying expensive NY real estate) from the $230 million tax fraud case uncovered by Sergei Magnitsky who was then assassinated, resulting in the sanctioning of 44 Russians.

In response to the Magnitsky Act, Putin banned Americans from adopting Russian babies. That's the "Russian adoption" nonsense.

I don't even have to watch the video to know why she was there. Veselnitskaya spends a good deal of her time lobbying against the Magnitsky Act. June of 2016 is when the anti-Magnitsky film The Magnitsky Act — Behind the Scenes premiered.

Good grief. The desperation.


Yes.
The desperation.
And the deflection.
And then the desperation.
And then the deflection.

You're ok at it, but not as good as sillyolme.
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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Russia law since 2012 bars Americans adopting Russian children. The Magnitsky Act is irrelevant. Also, what the f is this Natalia doing in America for years when she doesn't speak a word of English or Spanish? Is she a spy?



posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: c2oden

That's the best you could do? Why don't you try attacking the point? Please demonstrate the actual connection between Veselnitskaya and the Ambassador.

Sitting in the gallery behind the Ambassador is not "sitting with" it's not "working with" and in fact, it's not anything.

Put up or shut up.


(post by burntheships removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

lol



posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: allsee4eye


Russia law since 2012 bars Americans adopting Russian children. The Magnitsky Act is irrelevant.


Huh?

The Magnitsky Act was signed into law on December 14, 2012. On December 19, 2012, the State Duma banned adoption of Russian children into the US.

I don't know that she doesn't speak a word of English but I'll take your word for it I guess? From what I've read, she's been in the US lobbying for the repeal of the Magnitsky Act and of course, defending her client as I mentioned above. She's also tried to pin the tax rebate fraud that Magnitsky was killed for uncovering on the person who hired him, William F. Browder, who hired Magnitsky after a few of his companies were seized by the Russian government.

According to Mr. Browder, she's a Putin tool who is trying to smear his name.

I'll throw the Trump faithful a bone:

If I'm not mistaken, the tie-in to Fusion GPS is that either Steele or his partner were hired along with several others as part of the lobbying trying to get the Magnitsky Act repealed.
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posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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The plot thickens with Fusion GPS.

It was working on behalf of the Clinton campaign and has been aggressively anti-Magnitsky.


Fusion GPS had been hired by the international law firm, BakerHostetler. The law firm was in turn was working for Denis Katsyv, the head of a Cyprus-based company called Prevezon Holdings.

Sergei Magnitsky, the namesake for the Magnitsky Act, was Browder’s lawyer during the 2000s, when the financier did business in Russia. Magnitsky died under mysterious circumstances in a Russian jail in 2009. He was imprisoned after uncovering a $230 million money laundering scheme that targeted Browder’s businesses.

Prevezon, Denis Katsyv’s company, was implicated in the money laundering scheme. Prevezon reached a $6 million settlement with the U.S. government in the case in May.

Browder tells TheDC that he will testify about Fusion GPS, Simpson, BakerHostetler lawyer Mark Cymrot, and Akhmetshin, the former Soviet agent who is now a Washington, D.C.-based lobbyist and consultant.


Note that Akhmetshin has ties to Soros by funding.

And the Agalarovs who are tied to Goldstone *do* have ties to the Russian government.



posted on Jul, 11 2017 @ 09:37 PM
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Ties alone don't prove anything. If you look hard enough, you see faces in clouds. Besides, a friend of a friend of a friend hardly means anything.



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