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New Study: Being Transgender Is Not A Mental Disorder

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posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...




posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: Sheye

Is being gay a sin in your book?.


Of course, the some of the things gays do are sins. But, the gay person will say we're all sinners. Just different kinds of sin.

However, "being gay" can't be a sin, because you can't sin by just "being something." That's a label that has different meanings to each person.

Sin is in the "thought" and "action" of the person, not his state of being.

There is a book, that tells man what is sin. And it only mentioned the word "gay" once in the whole book. When it does, this is what it says,



And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and
say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place;
-- KJV, James 2:3


That's all the book says about the term "gay".

So, as long "gay" is just the way a person "looks", that's just fine, according to the Holy Bible.


edit on 17-7-2017 by AMPTAH because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye
.. and so the hating continues...

Yes... I know what it feels like to be picked on and bullied for my beliefs, even called insane for them... maybe even more than transgendered.

Whats next for the scientific realms ... treating Christianity as a mental illness ?

People forget about spiritual realms and how they effect the physical. We are more spiritual than we are physical.



No one is hating. Non eof us find you 'repulsive', like you find members of the trans community to be 'repulsive'.

And what do you even mean we are more spiritual than physical? Sounds like more poetic, cliche, religious and metaphorical nonsense. If it isn't poetic, cliche, religious and metaphorical nonsense, please do provide some scientific evidence to back your claims.


No one finds me repulsive ? You speak for Peter now ? Doesn't matter anyhow..

I can't help being repulsed a little by transgender but I would never bully them... much like many are repulsed with the idea of having sex with the same gender. Would you say heterosexuals are terrible because they won't agree to having sex with the same gender ?

You wouldn't accept scientific proof that we are more spiritual than physical.. though the spititual does influence the physical.

You're the expert on all things scientific ,in your own mind .. so any proof would be disregarded.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...

You do not realize that your posts are coming off as hateful towards transgender people even though you yourself don't hate them. Not being compassionate towards them comes off as being hateful. "If they're depressed that's their own fault." "Demons are in them." "Transgender people are mentally ill." "Transgender people don't know any better but I do and I don't care what crackpot scientists say." And so on and on.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

They didn't use the word gay for homosexuality back then .. it probably meant something different.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

As always, I do appreciate the kind words. Though in all honesty, I felt more like I was being the voice of unadulterated frustration more so than a voice of reason. I have to skip over Sheye's posts now because the level of hypocrisy genuinely makes me angry. It's just. Huge peeve of mine, the whole girl who cried wolf routine whining about how I'm attacking Christians while hiding behind the Bible like it's a badge allowing them to treat others as if they aren't worthy or as though they're subhuman. It's vulgar and I'm happy to vocally be a hypocrite and be judgemental towards people like that. They have zero integrity or honor and they may be many things, but a follower of Christ's message is not on the list in any way. Thankfully, that while very vocal and making a lot of noise, those types of fake Christians are a tiny minority and not representative of Christians across the world. Though Sheye's outbursts remind more of the rhetoric of groups like the Lords Resistance Army who are committing mass. genocide in the name of Jesus in Uganda or the Islamic State in their fundamentalist mindset. Oh wait... am I attacking the poor defenseless Christians again by comparing them to IS/Daesh?



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...

You do not realize that your posts are coming off as hateful towards transgender people even though you yourself don't hate them. Not being compassionate towards them comes off as being hateful. "If they're depressed that's their own fault." "Demons are in them." "Transgender people are mentally ill." "Transgender people don't know any better but I do and I don't care what crackpot scientists say." And so on and on.


Does compassion mean having to agree with their choice to transgender?

I do have compassion for people struggling with this . That's why I pray for them. Is that considered uncompassionate ?

It seems as if I don't go along with their program .. I'm the bigot .. πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™€οΈπŸ˜•



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

Nobody is trying to force you to agree with their "choice". All they want is that you treat them like human beings and let them be who they are without retorting to calling them mentally ill, confused, or having demons in them. You didn't seem compassionate towards transgender children when you implied that they should be forced to like their own biological sexes until they're adults, increasing the risk of depression and suicide. And you have the gall to tell them that the depression is on them.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Exactly, could not say it better myself. It's just a day in day out argument for some, on top of that turn it around as they are the victims. Is it a vie for attention or a secret insecurity? Perhaps both.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...


They 'repulse' you. Your words, not mine.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

Nobody is trying to force you to agree with their "choice". All they want is that you treat them like human beings and let them be who they are without retorting to calling them mentally ill, confused, or having demons in them. You didn't seem compassionate towards transgender children when you implied that they should be forced to like their own biological sexes until they're adults, increasing the risk of depression and suicide. And you have the gall to tell them that the depression is on them.


I was talking about the depression of those who have transitioned already.

Childrens depression can be for many underlying reasons... and I would lovingly take my child to a specialist I trusted if we could not get to the root cause. And yes I would pray for my child , and ask for protection against the powers that wish to destroy humanity and especially take away the innocence and purity of children.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye
.. and so the hating continues...

Yes... I know what it feels like to be picked on and bullied for my beliefs, even called insane for them... maybe even more than transgendered.

Whats next for the scientific realms ... treating Christianity as a mental illness ?

People forget about spiritual realms and how they effect the physical. We are more spiritual than we are physical.



No one is hating. Non eof us find you 'repulsive', like you find members of the trans community to be 'repulsive'.

And what do you even mean we are more spiritual than physical? Sounds like more poetic, cliche, religious and metaphorical nonsense. If it isn't poetic, cliche, religious and metaphorical nonsense, please do provide some scientific evidence to back your claims.


No one finds me repulsive ? You speak for Peter now ? Doesn't matter anyhow..

I can't help being repulsed a little by transgender but I would never bully them... much like many are repulsed with the idea of having sex with the same gender. Would you say heterosexuals are terrible because they won't agree to having sex with the same gender ?

You wouldn't accept scientific proof that we are more spiritual than physical.. though the spititual does influence the physical.

You're the expert on all things scientific ,in your own mind .. so any proof would be disregarded.



Classic. We legitimately would like to see some evidence to back your claims but you won't provide it because you claim we will just disregard it. Which isn't the case. I have told you multiple times that if you provided some legitimate sources to back your claims I would ACTUALLY read and consider them. But you never have and every time someone asks for some sources, you shrug it off and say we wouldn't consider it anyway. It's obvious you're speaking the word of Jesus out your own rear end and have no sources. So stop putting the blame on us for some nonexistent reasoning you've concocted.

And I claimed to be the expert on all things scientific? Lmao. When did I say that? Of right...I didn't. Now who's putting words into the other's mouth?

Here's a little hint: It's you.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

As always, I do appreciate the kind words. Though in all honesty, I felt more like I was being the voice of unadulterated frustration more so than a voice of reason. I have to skip over Sheye's posts now because the level of hypocrisy genuinely makes me angry. It's just. Huge peeve of mine, the whole girl who cried wolf routine whining about how I'm attacking Christians while hiding behind the Bible like it's a badge allowing them to treat others as if they aren't worthy or as though they're subhuman. It's vulgar and I'm happy to vocally be a hypocrite and be judgemental towards people like that. They have zero integrity or honor and they may be many things, but a follower of Christ's message is not on the list in any way. Thankfully, that while very vocal and making a lot of noise, those types of fake Christians are a tiny minority and not representative of Christians across the world. Though Sheye's outbursts remind more of the rhetoric of groups like the Lords Resistance Army who are committing mass. genocide in the name of Jesus in Uganda or the Islamic State in their fundamentalist mindset. Oh wait... am I attacking the poor defenseless Christians again by comparing them to IS/Daesh?



I completely understand your struggle. I still do appreciate your attempts, because they really are admirable. It's hard when you're coming from a place of logic and you're fighting this concept of non-logic. You see the madness in others while all the while becoming mad yourself for trying to argue against their madness.

I dance the dance all the time, as you can see. I don't have the same restraint as you, lol. Sometimes I wish I did, because it never ends up anywhere. Therefore, I have a lot of respect for you.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...


They 'repulse' you. Your words, not mine.


Like I said before.. many gays are repulsed by heterosexual sex or vice versa. Repulsion isn't something you can help.
I'm polite to them if by some chance I come across a transgendered and probably have met some that I wasn't aware they were. Repulsion is not the same as hate. Hate is extreme and I have no hate for them.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...


They 'repulse' you. Your words, not mine.


Like I said before.. many gays are repulsed by heterosexual sex or vice versa. Repulsion isn't something you can help.
I'm polite to them if by some chance I come across a transgendered and probably have met some that I wasn't aware they were. Repulsion is not the same as hate. Hate is extreme and I have no hate for them.


But the way you're wording your posts are, like Deaf Alien has said, coming across as dripping with hatred and disdain. And you have said that they, as people, repulse you. You did not say that the sexual acts in which they participate 'repulse you'., The trans community isn't something reliant on sexual acts at all. Your use of the word 'repulse' was used BY YOU to describe a trans person...AS A PERSON.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...


They 'repulse' you. Your words, not mine.


Like I said before.. many gays are repulsed by heterosexual sex or vice versa. Repulsion isn't something you can help.
I'm polite to them if by some chance I come across a transgendered and probably have met some that I wasn't aware they were. Repulsion is not the same as hate. Hate is extreme and I have no hate for them.


But the way you're wording your posts are, like Deaf Alien has said, coming across as dripping with hatred and disdain. And you have said that they, as people, repulse you. You did not say that the sexual acts in which they participate 'repulse you'., The trans community isn't something reliant on sexual acts at all. Your use of the word 'repulse' was used BY YOU to describe a trans person...AS A PERSON.


It's you that is reading into the " dripping of hatred and disdain"
I dare say some of you peoples posts read that way to me.πŸ€”

I'll take a break for now.. and let all of you think up more ways to insult me .. it really doesn't bother me. I'll take the judgement from those who condemn me for judging πŸ˜‚( though I've stated in more than one post ,judge and jury will eventually come from higher spiritual realms)



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

Actually you're right. Transgenderism has nothing to do with acts of sex. Even homosexuality has nothing to do with acts of sex. It's just an orientation.
So basically Sheye is saying that transgender people as people repluse her without realizing it. Seems odd that she would focus on the acts of sex and not the people themselves.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: AMPTAH

They didn't use the word gay for homosexuality back then .. it probably meant something different.


There's meaning overlap. The old term "gay" simply meant "happy."

Well, after some lonely men couldn't find women that would lay with them, and experimented with other men, they discovered a new kind of "happy."

So, they called themselves "gay."

They finally got some relief from their frustrations.

Not sure why they didn't use the term "Happy Men".

I guess "gay" was shorter.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

Nobody is trying to force you to agree with their "choice". All they want is that you treat them like human beings and let them be who they are without retorting to calling them mentally ill, confused, or having demons in them. You didn't seem compassionate towards transgender children when you implied that they should be forced to like their own biological sexes until they're adults, increasing the risk of depression and suicide. And you have the gall to tell them that the depression is on them.


So the only way to be compassionate to a delusional person is to concede to that person's delusions?

Sorry, that is just not the case. True compassion is to treat the issue, not ignore it. That doesn't mean you insult the person, but neither do you reinforce their issue.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Sheye

You're only here to judge. The thing you said you were going to wait to do.

You've already got your mind made up, even though Jesus (if he existed) would be disgusted at you hating transgender people like him.


This, this, a thousand times THIS.


Again.. not fair... where did I ever mention hating transgender people or Jesus hating them ?

You're putting words into my posts that don't exist ...


They 'repulse' you. Your words, not mine.


Like I said before.. many gays are repulsed by heterosexual sex or vice versa. Repulsion isn't something you can help.
I'm polite to them if by some chance I come across a transgendered and probably have met some that I wasn't aware they were. Repulsion is not the same as hate. Hate is extreme and I have no hate for them.


But the way you're wording your posts are, like Deaf Alien has said, coming across as dripping with hatred and disdain. And you have said that they, as people, repulse you. You did not say that the sexual acts in which they participate 'repulse you'., The trans community isn't something reliant on sexual acts at all. Your use of the word 'repulse' was used BY YOU to describe a trans person...AS A PERSON.


It's you that is reading into the " dripping of hatred and disdain"
I dare say some of you peoples posts read that way to me.πŸ€”

I'll take a break for now.. and let all of you think up more ways to insult me .. it really doesn't bother me. I'll take the judgement from those who condemn me for judging πŸ˜‚( though I've stated in more than one post ,judge and jury will eventually come from higher spiritual realms)


Yet another post wherein you prove you're just another hypochristian. And it's called context clues. Had you mentioned how you love the trans community and you see nothing wrong with them at all and did not use the word demon, repulse or any variation of that..or had not not mentioned that their depression and suicidal thoughts were their own problem and they should just 'grow up'..MAYBE we coudl talk about how people might be reading too much into it.

But no. You judged and judged and judged. You played victim here and there, but the most obvious thing you did was prove you are very limited with your perspective. You are asked for evidence but you have none and blame us for your lack of back up. You go against the very religion you're so hellbent on preaching but claim you're not doing it.

You gaslight everyone's posts towards you with your nonsense. You are guilty of putting words into other's mouths but turn around and claim we are doing it to you.

Let's have a round of applause for Sheye!!!



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