New Study: Being Transgender Is Not A Mental Disorder

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: birdonwire

DSM-5 aims to avoid stigma and ensure clinical care for individuals who see and feel themselves to be a
different gender than their assigned gender. It replaces the diagnostic name “gender identity disorder”
with “gender dysphoria,” as well as makes other important clarifications in the criteria. It is important
to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dys-
phoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.

That is right out of DSM-5.
Don't cry. It's ok.

You can't grasp what they are sayin there?

Gender dysphoria IS a mental disorder.
Gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder.

Thank you for providing the evidence that Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder in the DSM 5.

Don't cry? Again your playbook is failing, that has no effect on me.

a reply to: birdonwire

This level of stupidity is astounding.

originally posted by: Jupiters
a reply to: Deaf Alien

I wish it was just online SJW's

I deal with this daily in UNI, all of my classes pertaining to behavioral neuroscience and etc has had this topic brought up.
I have been asked to leave 3 classes for debating from SCIENCE.
You'd think in extensive biology courses they would be more open to the idea of biological facts.

I don't know if it's for the reason you stated. It's pretty hard to accept anecdotal evidence from anonymous posters.

a reply to: Jupiters

Okay.

I'm old enough to remember things "back when".

There were folks that just wouldn't abide them coloreds. Yeah, they got used to civil rights. Uppity folks going 'all equal" on decent people.

But times change.

Not saying that you're like that (I don't even know you) but that's how I see this going.

I'm just a crotchety old man. I like freedoms for everyone. Don't really care what people do as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of anyone else.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

That isn't much of an answer. You are dancing around my question. At least you got one thing correct: talk to them and figure out how to deal with it. I'm sure you won't force them to be who they are not.
What part of her story hasn't she addressed yet? Talking about porn?

Yes.. talking about porn.. she told a rather interesting story for a 4 year old who had her first ugre to NOT have a penis. She was watching a woman on TV with an exposed vagina ( who knows .. maybe two women).. and she ..or he at the time ...decided he wanted to be like them.

I'm not dancing around the question .. and I do think some kids need a good swift kick in the butt metaphorically speaking ...just to keep their over active imaginations in check as well as their whims. Sure , let a kid play out fantasies to an extent for a short period of time if you want to encourage creativity , but be firm and wise about how you teach them to respect the genders God gave them to serve humanity with.

If people say we are reincarnated, then even more reason to respect the gender your soul chose to come back into earthly form with.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Fair enough, thank you for the honest conversation though. Very rare at Uni.

Cheers.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

We barely understand mental illness, and we barely understand dysphoria. There can easily be a correlation between the 2, the 2 can easily be one in the same, or there may be no connection at all.

Everyone is just going in circles with the same argument and not really getting anywhere new.

Nobody here knows the absolute truth.

Hundred pages later..

Yawn..

originally posted by: Jupiters
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Fair enough, thank you for the honest conversation though. Very rare at Uni.

Cheers.

Not saying I don't believe you. It's possible that it actually happened. If so then I am not happy about that. Debate should be open and free and universities.
And thank you too.
Cheers.

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

What is your solution to children with gender dysphoria?

What is my solution to children who are actually confused about wanting to be another sex? Talking.. asking tons of questions.. and hopefully with the answers , I can dole out appropriate amount of wisdom.

Much like I asked RainbowPhoenix about her self discovery story at age 4 . I found ...what I perceived as facts .. missing in her story.. and she still hasn't addressed that post to my knowledge.

Also remember it is " trendy " to be LGTBQ ... and kids will go to great lengths at times just to be considered cool.

It seems like you are looking for some sort of external factor to be there. I already told you I remember what I remember from that age and it isn't much. I do remember though having a very distinct and conscious sense of having incorrect parts. I speculated in my OP that perhaps seing a vagina may have triggered but I couldn't say for sure either way. I gave what insight I could so forgive if I can't give you anything else.

Yes.. talking about porn.. she told a rather interesting story for a 4 year old who had her first ugre to NOT have a penis. She was watching a woman on TV with an exposed vagina ( who knows .. maybe two women).. and she ..or he at the time ...decided he wanted to be like them.

Woah woah woah, I noticed this after the fact and I don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth.

I love books.

Just absolutely adore books.

Some of the books I have are Victorian medical textbooks.

Did you know that it was considered a mental disorder if women wanted to learn and get a higher education?

a reply to: birdonwire

Yes?

a reply to: Sheye

I don't recall her saying that she saw vagina on TV. I remember her saying that she saw other children's genitals. I think it was when she bathed with them or something.
Rainbow can you clarify for us please.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Did you know that it was considered a mental disorder if women wanted to learn and get a higher education?

I still think that.

*RUNS*

a reply to: DBCowboy

I am for the complete enforcement of rights that are all rooted around life, liberty, and property.

I am saying I completely agree with you, in the sense that everyone has those rights and people can do what they please until they infringe on the rights of other.

So, I know you understand what I am getting at so I won't completely reiterate. But in summary, compelled speech does not exist on a legislative level, yet. There are groups of people on the hard left advocating such. If we were to get to a point where speech became legally compelled, then the rights of everyone would be infringed upon.

So again, on a fundemental level I agree with you.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: birdonwire

This level of stupidity is astounding.

Really not sure why you are resorting to simple insults, and not sure what you are even referring too. Did your little playbook suggest making some insults to see if a member would respond in kind and you could have them banned?

And what stupidity where you speaking of? The DSM 5 clearly states that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, and you can't change that now can you?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

I don't recall her saying that she saw vagina on TV. I remember her saying that she saw other children's genitals. I think it was when she bathed with them or something.
Rainbow can you clarify for us please.

I may have misread.. I'll try to find the post.. earliest memory post .. hang on

a reply to: DBCowboy

Women know your limits!..

a reply to: birdonwire

I LITERALLY quoted a part from DSM-5. It's right there for you to see. How can you not see it? It's clear.
Maybe "stupidity" is too harsh. I apologize. Maybe you're blind from propaganda or conditioning. That in itself is a conspiracy theory.

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix
a reply to: xSEEKxNxSTRIKEx

Listen here little b**** boy I'm a former Marine with a job that saw me leave the wire in the Helmand province. If you know what I'm saying then you know. Where did you serve and have you ever seen a real life explosion using military grade demo?

That actually made me laugh, Diamond back FOB and Qwest FOB. Do you know what leaving the wire means lady boy? What FOB were you stationed on, i left the wire daily, please, tell me all the FOBs you visited, what unit were you deployed with? Wheted you go for boot camp and what base were you living on prior to your tour?