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“Heraclitus rebukes the poet who wrote, 'Would strife might perish out of heaven and earth,' for, he says, there would be no harmony without high and low notes, and no animals without male and female, which are opposites.”
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
But according to the soft and solipsistic pundits (and some here on ATS?), “polarization”, “divisive rhetoric”, “partisan attacks”, and other victimless oppression is enough for them to turn their backs on politics altogether.
originally posted by: allsee4eye
I don't care about partisanship or lack thereof. Whatever works good for the people is what should be pursued. Partisanship has prevented important bills from being passed in the US, so clearly it is detrimental to the American people and should be done away with.
originally posted by: Terminal1
a reply to: bluesjr
I agree. Healthy debate and respect are missing in today's political environment.
When factions try and shut out debate of other factions there is trouble. Another is back room dealings that are not in the light of public view.
Personally I am jaded and think it has tipped over too far for healthy debate.
Like the story of Job the scene of the Faust myth has its beginning in heaven at a convocation of the Sons of Seth, Lucifer among them. The ending is also in heaven as presented by Goethe. As it is very different from that which is commonly presented upon the stage, we stand face to face with a gigantic problem. In fact, the Faust myth depicts the evolution of mankind during the present epoch. It also shows us how the Sons of Seth and the Sons of Cain each play their part in the work of the world.
Goethe meant every word he said. The stars have each their own keynote, and they travel about the Sun at such varying rates of speed, that their position now cannot be duplicated until twenty-seven thousand years have passed. Thus the harmony of the heavens changes at every moment of life, and as it changes, so does the world alter its ideas and ideals. The circle dance of the marching orbs to the tune of the celestial symphony created by them marks man's progress along the path we call evolution.
But it is a mistaken idea to think that constant harmony is pleasing. Music thus expressed would become monotonous; we should weary of the continued harmony. In fact, music would lose its charm were not dissonance interspersed at frequent intervals. The closer a composer can come to discord without actually entering it in the score, the more pleasing will be his composition when given life through musical instruments. Similarly in the song of the spheres, we could never reach individuality and the selfhood towards which all evolution trends, without the divine discord.
Therefore, the Book of Job designates Satan as being one of the Sons of God. And the Faust myth speaks of Lucifer as also present in the convocation, which takes place during the opening chapter of the story. From him comes the saving note of dissonance which forms a contrast tot he celestial harmony; and as the brightest light throws the deepest shadow, Lucifer's voice enhances the beauty of the celestial song.
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
a reply to: watchitburn
While I understand the OPS premise, I think it's important to realize the political atmosphere in this country. REASONABLE debate is fine, but let's just be honest, that's not what is occurring in this country.
What IS occurring, is an insistence by the two major factions is that 100% of EVERYTHING be 100% their way. Well, frankly, 100% of either two sides way is an utter disaster. The only hope for this country is the Independent Centrist; yeah, you know the people the OP says "should be mocked"? Yeah, those folks.
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
a reply to: seeker1963
First of all, if I didn't make it abundantly clear, I did, that I am not a "snowflake, i.e Democrat, well, I am not. Yeah, all hell is about to break loose, but I doubt if it's going to have as much to do with what the right and left think it will. Has more to do with the disenfranchisement of over 40% of the eligible voting bloc than anything the right or left is talking about.
Checks and balances were put in place for a reason, this hyper-partisanship we are seeing subverts the foundations of our Republic. And will eventually lead to our downfall.