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Conspiracies in Religion - just wondering

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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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To be compleatly honest we Love Religion - seriously we love religion from Ubaid to present day and everything in between but it's not all we are interested, science, articial intelligence, bio/fractalcomputation are pritty also pritty hot topics round here this days. But lets get back to religion What are the main conpspiracies in Religion these days - Ive a few but when i seem to talk about angels/ Light or our concern over humanitys effect on life in parallel dimensions and light spectrums, [snipped]

Oh did you know that you can remotely edit the whole of the human genome with Bluelight,CRISPR-Cas9 for optogenetic genome editing, may be something in that - a compleatly useless piece of information there ..Im fullof useless things
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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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Religion is nothing but a hoax.

Designed to keep us in servitude. Designed to manipulate and control.

If the "King's law" wasn't enough, heck, let's have "God's law" as well. Which is, of course, the kings law anyway.

Too many flaws in the whole Adam and Eve theory, unless they were the first DNA manipulation of neanderthals/apes. Evolution my butt.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: TruthsSword
Religion is nothing but a hoax.

Designed to keep us in servitude. Designed to manipulate and control.

If the "King's law" wasn't enough, heck, let's have "God's law" as well. Which is, of course, the kings law anyway.

Too many flaws in the whole Adam and Eve theory, unless they were the first DNA manipulation of neanderthals/apes. Evolution my butt.


Our laws are roughly based on God's commandments ... but that is slowly eroding😕

Take God out of the big picture and that is when you will see total chaos run this world with no morality and set up to serve the elite. Still will be billions starving , even more vulnerable to war and take overs. It already has reached that point and most likely has been to an extent since the beginning of humanity.

God is good.. Jesus is forgiveness, compassion and love. Take that away from billions and this earth will become an even worse cesspool of degradation, anger, violence, revenge, etc.

That's my take on the good side of Christianity and religion.. it actually does inspire love and forgiveness, justice and all those other good and Holy things that people just don't want to seem to admit are actual good fruits of Christianity.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Sheye

Our laws are roughly based on God's commandments ... but that is slowly eroding😕



I wonder, could there be a possibility that the commandments were based on the natural laws of this reality? Maybe that is why they seem almost 'divine'.

I just don't understand why people think that in the absence of religion, the world is going to fall apart?

I am trying to follow the current religious conspiracy that the 3 abrahamic religions were created to erase the memory of our true past. That with their creation we are now slaves by the ideals that are embedded within the current religion that is being preached.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

Therein lays a big problem.

People are brainwashed into believing this whole heaven and hell hogwash, and having to do good, or else!

Instead of simply being taught to do good, as heaven is a state of mind.

So yes, the whole world may fall apart, because if you remove someone's crutch, they will surely fall.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: DpatC
Ive a few but when i seem to talk about angels/ Light or our concern over humanitys effect on life in parallel dimensions and light spectrums, my messages seem to get deleated .. Seems Light and Angels aren't wanted here


You could always try general off-topic chitchat forums instead. There is a sub-forum under Religion, Faith and Theology.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: TruthsSword

I hear you. What if the ideals that our current religion teaches are finally coming to fruition? Maybe they encourage us to abandon self accountability and reliability to give power over ourselves to others, whether they be some type of priest class or even an imaginary all powerful supreme being. Maybe growing up with that mindset allows people to appoint and be comfortable with the parasites ruling over us. That would certainly explain our current political situation.

The current state of the world just doesn't seem natural.


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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: TruthsSword

How would you even begin to define 'good' if all this Universe consists of is matter in motion? Why is goodness a virtuous ethic in such a Universe?

Is ' good' relative to you? Is it open to interpretation and changing with the times?

What happens when your definition of good comes up and is in conflict with another's definition of good and how would you differentiate between the two to find the true 'good'?
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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: slowisfast

Good certainly isn't defined by religion. If someone is only doing something for a reward I'd not consider them "good".

I believe to a certain extent most people feel a spiritualness - good, bad, right and wrong, etc. Religion takes these innate feelings and tries to take ownership of them for their own wicked reasons.

I think @clovensky touched upon some very good points in his/her post - especially about self accountability.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: TruthsSword
You didn't seem to answer anything that I asked.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: ClovenSky

originally posted by: Sheye

Our laws are roughly based on God's commandments ... but that is slowly eroding😕



I wonder, could there be a possibility that the commandments were based on the natural laws of this reality? Maybe that is why they seem almost 'divine'.

I just don't understand why people think that in the absence of religion, the world is going to fall apart?

I am trying to follow the current religious conspiracy that the 3 abrahamic religions were created to erase the memory of our true past. That with their creation we are now slaves by the ideals that are embedded within the current religion that is being preached.


So you are saying it is a natural ' divine ' type set of laws that compels us to not be fornicators, adulterers, thieves, etc?

Whatever is good and just is still put there by God , wether you believe in God or not.
... but I'll not speak on behalf of God .. and pray He enlightens the hearts and minds of those who have not come to the awareness of His divine truths.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: TruthsSword
a reply to: slowisfast

Good certainly isn't defined by religion. If someone is only doing something for a reward I'd not consider them "good".

I believe to a certain extent most people feel a spiritualness - good, bad, right and wrong, etc. Religion takes these innate feelings and tries to take ownership of them for their own wicked reasons.

I think @clovensky touched upon some very good points in his/her post - especially about self accountability.


Your say mistaken if you think religious folk only do good because of reward , or stay away from doing harm because of fear.

Good deeds do not go unpunished and many is the good samaritan who has suffered for doing good .

You really have no understanding of a truly meaningful relationship with Jesus Christ and I find your judgement of religious people way off and quite offensive .



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

I do not think the commandments are divine. I think they are based loosely on the natural laws of this existence and that flimsy relation is what gives them a certain amount of strength and realness. Nothing compels us. If there were a set of laws that compelled us, we wouldn't have free will. The laws are what they are. They can be discovered and followed through free will or they can be ignored.

I am still curious though. What is the difference of someone who does good simply because it is the right thing to do versus those who do good because they read about a list out of a book? What are the consequences?



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky


I just don't understand why people think that in the absence of religion, the world is going to fall apart?


Have you taken a good look at the world lately?

Rampant pedophilia, repugnant government official who have no honor, ’above the law’ for elites, children beating up each other and old people for 'kicks', drug use beyond anything we've ever seen... I could go on and on...

peace



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: TruthsSword


Good certainly isn't defined by religion. If someone is only doing something for a reward I'd not consider them "good".

There is NOTHING we can do (works) to gain everlasting life. It's only by the grace of God through Jesus Christ we are saved.

The result of giving our hearts to the Lord - is we have His love running through us given from Him, then given back to Him and to others.

Doing 'good' is just a reflection for where your heart is.

What are the consequences of not believing and giving your heart to Christ? Everlasting death.

Seems to me you might want to ask yourself a few questions. Who made you? Why are you here? What will happen to you when you die?

Then, try to invasion ETERNITY.

Where do you want to spend eternity?



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Would you agree that the world was more religious in the past? If so, then how did we get to this point?

What happens if our history has been corrupted? What if our history does not have the length in time that our scholars are telling us? Maybe our chronology has been elongated by a 1000 or so years and we are much closer to the roman and egyptian eras than what we have been told.

Maybe we aren't sliding into moral decay because people have abandoned religion. Maybe we are regressing because we have forgotten our true past and who we are, then replaced it with the fairy tales of religion.

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I forgot to add, it probably isn't a good idea to bring up religion as a prevention against pedo, from evidence of the holy roman catholic church's issues they have been having lately.
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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky




I am still curious though. What is the difference of someone who does good simply because it is the right thing to do versus those who do good because they read about a list out of a book? What are the consequences?


The person who does good because it is the right thing to do has God's goodness in their heart. They may not understand it as such, but goodness flows from God. Those who read it from a book but don't have it in their hearts are missing a connection in the spirit.

There are some exceptions to good works all coming from God.. many do them to appear good therefore it becomes selfish motivation and not true goodness.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

Sorry, this is a sarcastic response. You probably don't deserve it and I do appreciate your good candor and behavior.

Do you really think people do good for appearance sake? What happens if it starts out as superficial and then turns into an addiction because it feels 'right'? Are they still saved?

What about those who commit transgressions against free will and then absolve themselves through monthly confession, and repeat that cycle? Are they saved?

Just a side thought, did you ever see the episode of "Friends" where they try to do a good deed that wasn't selfish? It almost suggested that all good deeds are selfish and superficial at some level.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

It is God himself who sees into the hearts of people and only He can judge in the end. We will all be judged in the end and all will be in need of grace . The choice is to accept the grace purchased for us at a high price or not to accept .



posted on Jul, 9 2017 @ 03:23 AM
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Ditch religion and embrace theism. Thats the one thing the globalist cabal have continously shown they do not want, so there's got to be something to it.

I dont mean agnostic spiritualism, I mean cutting out the muddle men between you and YHWH. Turn off your brain, and follow your heart. If you are worthy, he will find your beacon of love.



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