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NYC Mayor Joins Hamburg G20 Protests - Historic World Protests

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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter
a reply to: RomeByFire

I didn't really expect anyone on ATS to agree with me.

They're always talking about an "echo chamber" - ATS is an extreme right echo chamber if I ever saw one - and I knew that before making the post.

However I want my voice heard - even if I'm the minority on ATS (you can see how the extreme right treats minorities). lol

Please know not all Americans agree with Trump, many of us don't like him at all; we're embarrassed and can't wait till he's gone. The problem then will be cleaning up his mess.

-- Before anyone says "why don't you leave the US", you know that's not the answer. If we all left who would you complain about? Probably the rest of the world, like you are now (so mute point) - but regardless, we're staying, and making our voice heard. When it's all over, we'll shake your hand and hope you learned something.




posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

Ill only bite a little on this mess...

Placards are there because he is an easy target to blame, if Hillary had won they still would have rioted and made a mess in Hamburg.




Build your wall, and do a favour to the rest of the world, put a roof on that asylum, to keep your environmental pollution inside! "Make america great again", like you did with southern- and middle america!


Colonialism is my reply to that, have yall gone back to all the colonies around the globe that Europe screwed up, nearly exterminated the locals, and exploited for resources yet?




Throw all the "foreigners" out, the dark skinned and blackhaired first. But who would run "your" Silicon Valley, without the indians(the real ones, not the native americans), who would serve your army then? The "white-trash", poor people from the trailerparks, the unemployed from the bible and rust belt, the "white middle class"? Would that be enough slaves, cannonfodder?


So much ignorance in that statement I have to wonder if you have ever lived outside of your little corner of Europe.

It is funny how so many people complain about American ignorance when they like many people around the globe have lived their entire life within about 20 miles of where they were born.

Nice job stereotyping people there.. you know there is a word that some folks use to describe people that use blanket statements about an entire group of people.

You might want to check that ego just a bit there bud.

Oh and no I really do not care what people think of America, you do not live there do not worry about it, and since I am not a german citizen (even though I am living in germany) I will not give my opinion on the leaders of your country.

ETA: as for the mayor... please somebody hit him with a water cannon, though I have no doubt he is to gutless to actually protest any pictures will most likely be photo ops coordinated with the police so they do not get the bad press of blasting a US politician.
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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Yep.

His city is falling apart. Crime is through the roof, the subways are being held together with duct tape, most of his population gets out of school functionally illiterate ... but he can take off and go protest the engine of his city's economy and the president of his own country anytime he feels like it.

The sad thing is that it will likely enhance his re-election chances in that city.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: Pearj

So now because some of us feel like a mayor ought to stay in his city after one of his police officers get executed by a random act of violence, unprovoked attack and his department is demoralized as a result, and at least show up at the graduation of new police officers to make a show of support, that you are now being victimized?

Poor, poor you ...



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: Pearj
a reply to: DerBeobachter
a reply to: RomeByFire

I didn't really expect anyone on ATS to agree with me.

They're always talking about an "echo chamber" - ATS is an extreme right echo chamber if I ever saw one - and I knew that before making the post.

However I want my voice heard - even if I'm the minority on ATS (you can see how the extreme right treats minorities). lol

Please know not all Americans agree with Trump, many of us don't like him at all; we're embarrassed and can't wait till he's gone. The problem then will be cleaning up his mess.

-- Before anyone says "why don't you leave the US", you know that's not the answer. If we all left who would you complain about? Probably the rest of the world, like you are now (so mute point) - but regardless, we're staying, and making our voice heard. When it's all over, we'll shake your hand and hope you learned something.


So your butt hurt I take it?? Let me say this attacking someone just because you don't like them is silly. I personally think Trump is a mistake a big one. But I'm not going to attack him over stupid things. He is the US president and like it or not we elected him to represent us. And no i didn't vote for him however many fellow citizens did.

I wa's made fun of for my vote by my friends but I couldn't vote for Trump or Hillary. I even warned them being a life long Democrat that nominating her would lead to a loss. They told me I was silly or crazy. Trump is in office because fools thought running Hillary was a good idea.

But now that it's done I'm not going to attack our president foolishly. I will complain when he does something wrong. For example he should never habe gotten out of the Paris accord something needs to be done. Even if it has a minimal effect you have to start some where.

You need however to rethink your position oposing everything he does is useless. It makes your opinion useless when you bring fake attacks.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

Who the # cares what Trump does or says when we have our own problems to worry about. Our government has still not presented a viable and fair solution for the refugee crisis. Most of them are not allowed to work here and there is no effort whatsoever to prepare them for shipping them back to their homes to rebuild it. A large portion of the refugees we took in are males in their 20s and nobody has a clue what to do with them but yes let's worry over fake global warming and how many scoops of ice cream the POTUS had. #ing hell this generation is so #ed and they don't even realize it. Let's keep pretending everything is fine and reelect Merkel the useless bitch and ruin europe forever. We buried Helmut Kohl with an european flag instead of the german one and nobody bats an eye. They all laughed about Trump and HIllary running for president without realizing our choices are Schulz and Merkel. The SPD seems to incompetent to run even a good campaign and has no faith in their own candidate. #ing morons.
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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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It's interesting that long-time journalists who've covered this G20 protest, dating back to Ronald Reagan, say that this 2017 version is about "average" in size. It just looks and sounds really BIG, because broadcast technology is in every hand nowadays.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

I heard that MSNBC's camera crew got water-cannoned though. Did they show that footage?



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:26 AM
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I wonder if these people even realize what they were protesting...
If the world just said "okay you can have your way" thus throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Do they realize a world without capitalism is a world without technology and medicines?
If you really believe this tripe throw your smart phone and computer out the window. Stop eating safe foods and stop seeing the doctor. Because you are technically promoting the system that capitalism helped build.
****ing heathens!



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: DerBeobachter


It is funny how so many people complain about American ignorance when they like many people around the globe have lived their entire life within about 20 miles of where they were born.

Nice job stereotyping people there.. you know there is a word that some folks use to describe people that use blanket statements about an entire group of people.


^ This.

This is irony, right? Sometimes I miss it and think the statement was just stupid.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: EchoesInTime
These G20 Protests happen every year. They are not protesting Trump.


Agree. These get-togethers tend to attract all sorts, including a bunch of people who get a thrill out of mayhem. Probably quite a few "riot tourists" who travel to these events for the thrill.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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these protests happen every year.... has nothing to do with trump

pretty sick tho that the mayor of nyc would go days after a cop is executed and while nyc is falling apart



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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Is there a reason for these protests? Is it just a protest against some specific person at the G20 summit? What's their slogan? What doe they protest against? I mean, there's no goddamn reason anyone should be protesting against a meeting! Obviously they are protesting against an idea, rather then the meeting itself. What would that Idea be?

Otherwise, if there's no idea, or there's a too trivial one... maybe it's a staged protest by the EU intelligence and govt. Just as they did in 2001 in Genova.
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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: CuriousPaddy
And going on Americas past presidents, I see trump as actually the best one America has had in a long time.

He could be.

The problem with the left is they refuse to see that Trump is one of their own. Maybe that's what it is. There's a dividing line for the left. Trump is a Democrat and de Blasio is full-on Progressive.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I sure enjoy watching the left tear itself apart.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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Just another excuse for right-thinking people to go out and pat each other on the back and to preen each other's peacock feathers.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 01:38 PM
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Throw all the "foreigners" out, the dark skinned and blackhaired first. But who would run "your" Silicon Valley, without the indians(the real ones, not the native americans), who would serve your army then? The "white-trash", poor people from the trailerparks, the unemployed from the bible and rust belt, the "white middle class"? Would that be enough slaves, cannonfodder?


Most of those "indians" are Americans of Indian decent. They are legitimate immigrants who came here for a better life. You're assumptions of throwing out foreigners and racisim, along with your view of the south and "white-trash" merely reflect your own bigotry.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980
I wonder if these people even realize what they were protesting...
If the world just said "okay you can have your way" thus throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Do they realize a world without capitalism is a world without technology and medicines?
If you really believe this tripe throw your smart phone and computer out the window. Stop eating safe foods and stop seeing the doctor. Because you are technically promoting the system that capitalism helped build.
****ing heathens!


As an Anti-Capitalist I'm aware that as Big Pharma has grown it now spends $2 on advertising and PR for every $1 on developing new drugs. Plus I'm lucky enough to come from a country with free/socialised healthcare (and buy all electronics second hand to avoid contributing to the African World War).

What concerns me most is that Capitalism is incompatible with reality. Because of Capitalism Our resources use is growing exponentially, while our access to resources is only growing linearly and in a few decades we hit the grim model point where demand outstrips supply so much the society collapses. Yes Capitalism does bring some good but it also brings some bad such as planned obsolesence and the ant-democratic effects of lobbying.

As for the protests, as left wing and anti-Trump as I am, they have nothing to do with Trump apart from the usual hate any US President recieves. The protests are average/slightly below average size and not paticularlly violent by G20 standards.
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posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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The op should stick with ME threads and stay away from political fake news.




posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Pearj

So did he loot and burn cars with them as well? I see you didn't use a real picture of all the looters and commies, which truly represented the protesters.



posted on Jul, 8 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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14 stars I got on that post and not one decent reply did I get back.

(That is in no way dis respect to your reply brother, im greatful)

What I wanted was a reply off the many many members on this site that hate the guy with a passion. Because I know they have lurked this post and have seen my comment.

It's also not the first time I've asked the question, I've asked it numerous times in different forums and not once has anyone gave me a decent reply as to why

:They hate him
:The evidence of how he is causing more damage to the US and the world.

Also can anyone list all these world leaders who say they dislike trump or show negative hostility towards him ? Because I can guarantee those leaders are the very same ones who are considered "the problem".

I actually have strong feelings that the man can achieve great things but, before he gets to do so, will be JFK''d by some lone nut, similar to the recent nut who shot at us politicians (in a way that's convenient no ? We already had someone who shot at politicians, why wouldn't we have a nut that can take out trump)

When that happens I believe Americans Will be very sad and upset, because the media will switch from "Trump bad" to trump was a great man. And that's the reason I BELIEVE 95% of the members on here hate the man, coz it's the new hip cool thing to do at the moment and all the news outlets are pounding your minds with it.a reply to: Snarl



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