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Polish president knocks 'fake news' over wife's Trump handshake

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posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: OccamsRazor04



Why would we do that when we are basing the post on the CONTENT of the TWEET not the person they retweeted.


You may want to ask someone else about that.



Try again? No one cares about the original person making the fake news video, we care about CNN's CONTENT when they retweeted the fake news.


What content? All Cizzilla said was OMG.

No, he retweeted the video, he linked right to it. I don't care about the person who he linked to, I care about the content he linked to. See the difference?




posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Could be, I was merely replying to the actual source he provided, and in that one, it didn't happen.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



You lost the argument so you revert to Trump. There is one instance that Trump did indeed push a racist narrative - I believe it was related to statistics about black crime.


I did not lose any argument. You have yet to present one.

Your logic is severely flawed and now you have to admit Trump pushes a racist narrative in order to cover your logic and ass.



Even I would not say Trump was pushing a racist narrative, but I guess that is the price we pay for playing the game by your rules.


Your push back seems to be that a very obvious fake narrative was not a fake narrative because we dont know the mind of the video creator. That is what you are left with. i.e. nonsense.

My argument is based on reality.

A video with a fake narrative was posted on Twitter to try and make out that the Polish First Lady snubbed Trump
CNN pushed it via retweet by one of their journalists to his 500k followers.
They were caught.
The President of Poland debunked the fake news and asked people to fight fake news.

That's what we know. The facts and reality of the situation are not your friend.

edit on 7/7/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: veracity

Yawn. I love how you can't win with facts so you get triggered and need to pretend others are too.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: introvert


Then you decided to create your own fake narrative by making illogical extrapolations for the sake of bashing CNN.


Exactly.

* The video wasn't created by anyone at CNN, it was created by David C. Lewis.
* The tweet was favorited 52k times and retweeted 32k times.



* Duda didn't mention CNN.
* A CNN reporter was one of the 32k folks to retweet.

From that, this:


The Polish President has joined the fight against Fake News - targeting CNN's latest fake news attempt to drive a narrative.


Who's really attempting to "drive a narrative" here?

Granted, the video was definitely intended to suggest a snub where there was none and Cizzilla should have known better than to retweet it (and the OMGOMG thing was a little wtf) but the OP is misleading on several points, in particular the three would be points that are the thrust of the OP: 1) That CNN was behind this video to push a "false narrative." 2) That Duda called out CNN. 3) That Cizzilla made any claim about the video.
edit on 2017-7-7 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:15 PM
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CNN was the ONLY new outlet named in the OP, three times

It implied CNN was busted with fake news which in reality it wasn't.



a reply to: OccamsRazor04



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: underwerks
Just CNN doing what it does best, triggering the triggerables!

You Trumpers fall for it every time.


Polish President called what they distributed fake news. The triggered ones are the CNN supporters haveing a 17 page meltdown trying to come up with every and any deflection possible, it's hilarious.

Yep, but we should encourage them... every single one of their posts reveals them more fully and that is happening across all media and online at the moment. They are being made to destroy themselves.

Oh yeah. They better watch out "revealing" themselves.



I'm just curious, what do you think should happen? And who's going to do anything about it? Should the government round them up? Maybe arrest everyone who is critical of Trump?


No, every single time CNN post their fake news (or any other media outlet) they should be called out until they stop - or disappear into obscurity. There should be no let up in holding them to a proper journalistic standard. Right now CNN are nothing more than a propaganda outfit.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: violet


CNN was the ONLY new outlet named in the OP, three times

It implied CNN was busted with fake news which in reality it wasn't.



a reply to: OccamsRazor04



False.

The Hill
NBC
CNN
twitter

All mentioned.

I can see why you get so easily led - you can't even read.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: introvert


Then you decided to create your own fake narrative by making illogical extrapolations for the sake of bashing CNN.


Exactly.

* The video wasn't created by anyone at CNN, it was created by David C. Lewis.
* The tweet was favorited 52k times and retweeted 32k times.



* Duda didn't mention CNN.
* A CNN reporter was one of the 32k folks to retweet.

From that, this:


The Polish President has joined the fight against Fake News - targeting CNN's latest fake news attempt to drive a narrative.


Who's really attempting to "drive a narrative" here?

Granted, the video was definitely intended to suggest a snub where there was none and Cizzilla should have known better than to retweet it (and the OMGOMG thing was a little wtf) but the OP is misleading on several points, in particular the three would be points that are the thrust of the OP: 1) That CNN was behind this video to push a "false narrative." 2) That Duda called out CNN. 3) That Cizzilla made any claim about the video.


1) There is no mention that CNN created the video - fake news on your part
2) There is no claim that Duda called out CNN - fake news on your part
3) Cizzilla retweeted and pushed fake news to his 500k audience. His choice to support the claim being made.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth
Agreed, any news outlet should be called out if there's undeniable facts to enforce it happened. Who wouldn't agree with that?!

In this case it's all too vague, so it's useless and only serves to make people think the opposite of what you were intending it to 'prove'.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien


I know.
Totally transparent.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: violet
a reply to: UKTruth
Agreed, any news outlet should be called out if there's undeniable facts to enforce it happened. Who wouldn't agree with that?!

In this case it's all too vague, so it's useless and only serves to make people think the opposite of what you were intending it to 'prove'.



There is nothing vague about it. A video with a fake narrative was retweeted by CNN and pushed to 500k followers.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:38 PM
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Funny enough how polish state media are like north korean tv yet he takes an effort to debunk cnn. Lame, fake puppet.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: UKTruth

Of course the media is going to push the narrative that CNN is pushing it. What do you expect?
And did the President of Poland say CNN was pushing it?
And you still haven't provided me with a single source of CNN pushing it.
As I have stated I am pretty patient. I'm waiting.


You may be patient, but you are also in denial.
The tweet to 500,000 followers of a video pushing a fake narrative is indeed pushing a fake narrative. It's been provided many times.


Nobody said the President of Poland referenced CNN directly. We only know for a fact that CNN pushed the fake narrative on twitter and that the President referred broadly to the fake news reports and refuted them.



Actually UK, let's not rush to judgment about all those twitter followers... according to twitteraudit:

240,908 Real
246,760 Fake

So it seems he fits right in, CNN;s numbers are barely better



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: violet
a reply to: UKTruth
Agreed, any news outlet should be called out if there's undeniable facts to enforce it happened. Who wouldn't agree with that?!

In this case it's all too vague, so it's useless and only serves to make people think the opposite of what you were intending it to 'prove'.



There is nothing vague about it. A video with a fake narrative was retweeted by CNN and pushed to 500k followers.


was it really retweeted by CNN? or one of its employees



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: veracity

Yawn. I love how you can't win with facts so you get triggered and need to pretend others are too.


i am not the one triggered by this thread...i am the one saying calm the f down...this is not melt-down material...remember?

I said this to you.

Now I am just sittin back relaxing and watching you trigger out all over this thread.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: violet
a reply to: UKTruth
Agreed, any news outlet should be called out if there's undeniable facts to enforce it happened. Who wouldn't agree with that?!

In this case it's all too vague, so it's useless and only serves to make people think the opposite of what you were intending it to 'prove'.


There is nothing vague about it. A video with a fake narrative was retweeted by CNN and pushed to 500k followers.


was it really retweeted by CNN? or one of its employees



1. The "OMG" reporter that retweeted the story works for CNN
2. The Twitter handle used for that tweet contains the word CNN
3. When speaking publicly, if you are showing your employers corporate logo or name you are, in effect, speaking for that company
4. If you speak publicly, with no mention or view of your employers corporate logo or name, you are speaking as a private citizen

Therefore, whether he knew it or not, we WAS tweeting as a representative of his employer at the time (i.e. CNN).

In this case, I think CNN should warn this reporter that any private tweets or opinions he wishes to express do not contain ANY mention or likeness to their corporate entity.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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This is stupid. This is now the world we live in.

19 pages on Poland's FLOTUS shaking Melania's hand.

Truly embarrassing.

But this is what our MSM pushes with their ridiculous obsession, with everything being said and done on this trip on various problems facing the world, it's a handshake which gets this much attention.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: violet
a reply to: UKTruth
Agreed, any news outlet should be called out if there's undeniable facts to enforce it happened. Who wouldn't agree with that?!

In this case it's all too vague, so it's useless and only serves to make people think the opposite of what you were intending it to 'prove'.


There is nothing vague about it. A video with a fake narrative was retweeted by CNN and pushed to 500k followers.


was it really retweeted by CNN? or one of its employees



1. The "OMG" reporter that retweeted the story works for CNN
2. The Twitter handle used for that tweet contains the word CNN
3. When speaking publicly, if you are showing your employers corporate logo or name you are, in effect, speaking for that company
4. If you speak publicly, with no mention or view of your employers corporate logo or name, you are speaking as a private citizen

Therefore, whether he knew it or not, we WAS tweeting as a representative of his employer at the time (i.e. CNN).

In this case, I think CNN should warn this reporter that any private tweets or opinions he wishes to express do not contain ANY mention or likeness to their corporate entity.


He seems like a crackhead to have done that, i would like to see how CNN handles this...not that they owe a public apology or anything, but I would like to see if they fire or reprimand him with demerits.

It is true that if you work for a company, you are representing that company on social media, especially if CNN is in the screename...however...to say CNN tweeted this is a far stretch.



posted on Jul, 7 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: veracity

IMO, it is not a "far stretch" at all. He was representing them in that tweet due to his employ there and the twitter handle he chose to use for that tweet. In effect, it was CNN tweeting that story, in a legal sense.

Whether he is a "crackhead" for doing that is not for me to say. It sure is not smart, if done unintentionally. And really irresponsible if done intentionally to push a narrative that demeans the President by propagating a half-truth pre-edited video. As a reporter, there should be some expectation that due diligence be done regarding their sources before reporting something publicly using their employers name. Otherwise, they should not be employed as a representative of a news organization.



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