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originally posted by: yeahright
originally posted by: Abysha
Or in a bed. Or monogamously. Or with condoms. Or while still wearing your shoes. Or while listening to music. Or consensual.
Started with a mouse and a cookie. Now it seems we're off to green eggs and ham.
know what you mean. It's like black people. If you let 'em sit at the front of the bus, next thing you know, they wanna drink from the "whites only" fountain. Then they'll want to be able to get in the same colleges as the white folks and have access to the same jobs. Where's it gonna end?
originally posted by: audubon
a reply to: Deaf Alien
Yes, I got that. Wasn't saying it was your argument. Think there's some confusion here. Anyway, point made so let's continue.
originally posted by: yeahright
originally posted by: Abysha
Or in a bed. Or monogamously. Or with condoms. Or while still wearing your shoes. Or while listening to music. Or consensual.
Started with a mouse and a cookie. Now it seems we're off to green eggs and ham.
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: GuidedKill
None of that has anything to do with who is attracted to whom. I know a guy who fell in love with a woman who can't have children. He knew this when he first met her, but fell in love with her anyway. You don't choose who you are attracted to. It just happens.
You're wife not being able to have children is based off her own body and it's physiological make up. I am truly sorry for her and you, but as you very well know having children is not a requirement for love or happiness....I never said that.
I just said being gay is not a genetic or a natural choice...people choose to be gay and are not influenced but anything scientific except personal beliefs.
And secondly, let's put it simpleton terms...you know..to assist with your continued willful ignorance:
If being gay is a choice/lifestyle, then you being straight is a choice and is a lifestyle.
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: GuidedKill
"Men can't reproduce with men". "Women can't reproduce with women".
What the hell does that have to do with choice?
The only 'choice' I see being made nonstop in this thread is Guidedkill's choice of willful ignorance.
ditto
Oooh, Good one, captain. You burned me with that one.
And being gay is NOT a choice as the study of epigenetics has found.
Again, you would know this if you had the proper understanding of was epigenetics is.
It starts BEFORE BIRTH regarding genetic makeup. It STARTS on this small portion of the x chromosome.
The way you're understanding it is based purely on your pretense that is has everything to do with nurture/environment and your misunderstanding that a person's genetics can just change whenever.
I'm not changing your mind and your not changing mine. We both linked are articles and journals to prove our point....
So when you go to just saying I'm a moron cause I don't agree with you....All I say is ditto....
Sorry I have no desires to enter in to a competition of wits with an unarmed person who resorts to insults....
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: GuidedKill
How much experience do you have with brain physiology, developmental psychology, and behavior genetics?
One of these days you guys might figure it out but until then the mice are going to continue to organize and protest.
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: GuidedKill
None of that has anything to do with who is attracted to whom. I know a guy who fell in love with a woman who can't have children. He knew this when he first met her, but fell in love with her anyway. You don't choose who you are attracted to. It just happens.
You're wife not being able to have children is based off her own body and it's physiological make up. I am truly sorry for her and you, but as you very well know having children is not a requirement for love or happiness....I never said that.
I just said being gay is not a genetic or a natural choice...people choose to be gay and are not influenced but anything scientific except personal beliefs.
And secondly, let's put it simpleton terms...you know..to assist with your continued willful ignorance:
If being gay is a choice/lifestyle, then you being straight is a choice and is a lifestyle.
Some would just call it mother nature...I have a three beautiful children born from their mother and I naturally..We didn't need a pinch hitter or a neighbor to act as a baby oven...
When I look at my kids I see their mother and I.....Not some me and some person I hit up on craigslist to help me and my gay lover do what heterosexuals can do naturally....Can gay couples say the same??
Ill wait for your answer.
originally posted by: yeahright
a reply to: GuidedKill
Actually, I'm beginning to think you can't help it.
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: GuidedKill
None of that has anything to do with who is attracted to whom. I know a guy who fell in love with a woman who can't have children. He knew this when he first met her, but fell in love with her anyway. You don't choose who you are attracted to. It just happens.
You're wife not being able to have children is based off her own body and it's physiological make up. I am truly sorry for her and you, but as you very well know having children is not a requirement for love or happiness....I never said that.
I just said being gay is not a genetic or a natural choice...people choose to be gay and are not influenced but anything scientific except personal beliefs.
And secondly, let's put it simpleton terms...you know..to assist with your continued willful ignorance:
If being gay is a choice/lifestyle, then you being straight is a choice and is a lifestyle.
Some would just call it mother nature...I have a three beautiful children born from their mother and I naturally..We didn't need a pinch hitter or a neighbor to act as a baby oven...
When I look at my kids I see their mother and I.....Not some me and some person I hit up on craigslist to help me and my gay lover do what heterosexuals can do naturally....Can gay couples say the same??
Ill wait for your answer.
Your ignorance is astounding. Pinch hitter? Your foolishness and ignorance rears its ugly head even further when you throw out judgmental things like that. And you're trying to say you're not a bigot. Haha.
A pinch hitter is a batter used as a substitute for another batter
a woman who bears a child on behalf of another woman, either from her own egg fertilized by the other woman's partner, or from the implantation in her uterus of a fertilized egg from the other woman.
originally posted by: GuidedKill
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
And your argument is full of facts right??? lmao....
I posted a rebuttal and you didn't like it.....just because you didn't like it does not negate me argument....But hey keep telling yourself you won something if it makes you feel good...
It's all about choice right!!
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: GuidedKill
A degree in Psychology with an emphasis on Behavior Genetics. So this is kind of my wheelhouse.
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: GuidedKill
None of that has anything to do with who is attracted to whom. I know a guy who fell in love with a woman who can't have children. He knew this when he first met her, but fell in love with her anyway. You don't choose who you are attracted to. It just happens.
You're wife not being able to have children is based off her own body and it's physiological make up. I am truly sorry for her and you, but as you very well know having children is not a requirement for love or happiness....I never said that.
I just said being gay is not a genetic or a natural choice...people choose to be gay and are not influenced but anything scientific except personal beliefs.
And secondly, let's put it simpleton terms...you know..to assist with your continued willful ignorance:
If being gay is a choice/lifestyle, then you being straight is a choice and is a lifestyle.
Some would just call it mother nature...I have a three beautiful children born from their mother and I naturally..We didn't need a pinch hitter or a neighbor to act as a baby oven...
When I look at my kids I see their mother and I.....Not some me and some person I hit up on craigslist to help me and my gay lover do what heterosexuals can do naturally....Can gay couples say the same??
Ill wait for your answer.