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POLICE bust Child Porn website with 87,000 users!

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posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

Quite
How on earth can these children recover from the traumas and abuse they've suffered? I have to say, can they ever function again in a "normal" society? Wouldn't it be nice if we could re-boot and erase?

The sheer number of children that go missing in all countries every year is staggering. If these children were simply being murdered then the wilderness would by now be strewn with bodies but I think its clear they are being taken for one reason only and that is sex.

For those in power, its far easier to control the mind of a child than an adult. Take for example a certain aging Company Director, playing about behind his wife's back, his conquests getting younger and younger to fulfill his ego, make him feel young & virile again, but then there's the fear of what if the wife finds out or what if the media find out? So he turns to teens then children because although he can't be certain an adult woman will keep her mouth shut he can terrify a child to shut up and put up and if it did eventually come out, the child can be called a liar a fantasist etc. Far easier to control a child and avoid blackmail situations or media exposure from a grown woman.




posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi

A lot of sick f*cks in the world... From the recent Cardinal who was busted to this... just disgusting...



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

You make a very good point and it's not something I've given a lot of thought to be honest because in my experience it's adults who do the abusing and the grooming, however I was taught techniques akin to social engineering and NLP, so that I could help them groom my friends, which of course I never did, no matter what they did to me in retaliation.

Maybe children can be saved, because they're still young enough to learn how to behave in civilised society, maybe they can't. I just don't have a good answer for this at all.

Rev



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: facedye
a reply to: eNumbra

in my personal opinion, the attraction itself should only be discussed with a licensed professional, under a closed door setting, with the proper tone and assistance.

they *should* be afraid for talking about it openly. it *should not* be talked about openly in a decent and morally conscious society.

if i was a blatant and aggressive racist, *should* i talk about it openly in public if i feel like i can't control it? no - if i personally want my behavior to change, i have to direct my point of view to someone who is qualified to help me climb out of myself in this regard. it shouldn't be a public discussion to mull over.

the way i see it, there should be no public discussion about this. there's no merit, nor good reason for it. why would i want to understand a pedophile? who cares to show sympathy for someone like that? all i want is for them to stay away from children - i don't care what it takes, and it's not my problem until they make it my problem. once they do, there's no need for a discussion.


You don't have to understand or even sympathize with them; my issue only is and has ever been the dangerous level of thought-crime acceptance that this topic brings up. Many in our society(and I can't honestly say I blame them) think anyone with the predilection should be summarily executed, or even tortured gruesomely, whether the pedophile in question has ever acted on the desires or not.


As an aside: why do sex offender registries even exist? If someone is enough of a danger to society that they need to be labeled and watched constantly shouldn't they just be left in jail?
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posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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Okay now I'm reading a lot of these posts on here full of "kill them all" and "fill the prisons with them" and "scum of the earth"

I agree whole-heartedly.. I mean outside of capital punishment (there s worse fates than death) that actual kidnappers and abusers should be jailed as what they do is rape.

Now as far as all the Pedophiles out there, who just view the material, I can't say I feel the same way.

Now to preface this, I rationalize with everyone. On all ends of the spectrum, murdered, rapists, etc. I recognize that every instance and action has a reason and it's important to understand and explore that. There are always circumstances surrounding each situation.

We sometimes forget that in many cultures, looking at the last few hundreds years, adults marrying kids as young as 12 was commonplace.

That being said think about how that affect our species biologically.

Genetic traits of attraction to minors weren't bred out, they were encouraged and celebrated.

We understand now in modern times human brain development, and why it is wrong.

However clearly based on those crazy numbers our DNA hasn't caught up.

I can't blame a pedophile for being a pedophile. I can only blame them for actually acting on it.

Then also at the same time, I reflect on my attraction to women. How long could I go without attention or interaction without a woman before going crazy? A year?

These people have to go they're entire lifetime depriving themselves of their attractions. Their existence must be hell for them. I feel bad for them to a degree to be honest.



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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Leave the kid...alone.



Just leave the bloody kids alone ffs



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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Itchy nigga trigga finga!



OOps
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posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi

I assume that this was a TOR onion site so those talking about IPs are going to be disappointed. It would also seem a virtual certainty that the site didn't request personal information and that if it did, none of the users would have provided accurate information.

What they should have done and hopefully did do is setup sting operations for those trying to arrange meetings to sexually abuse children. Beyond that, there's what the feds have been playing with for a few years here — use a 0-day exploit to get the users' browsers to download malware that phones home with the users' IP addresses, etc.
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posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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all pedos should be executed!



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: Jiggly

Except the child ones...we don't have a good solution for them yet and the point is to save children...all of them if we can.

Rev



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: eNumbra



Many in our society(and I can't honestly say I blame them) think anyone with the predilection should be summarily executed, or even tortured gruesomely, whether the pedophile in question has ever acted on the desires or not.


from my point of view, this is out of a deep, core love people have for their children, and children in general. i have no issue with these sentiments. i think this is an appropriate reaction.

if you knew someone was a pedophile (but has never acted on it that you know of), and if you had children, would you feel comfortable having them interact? i'd bet money that even if you agreed to have both of them in the same space, you'd want total visibility and control over how they communicate.

there is an innate, and obvious immorality involved with desires like this. it is so ingrained, that these people consciously know what they're doing is wrong, and they do it anyway - at the expense of innocent children.

these people should not demand, nor should they receive any recognizable amount of respect. same goes for people viewing and peddling child pornography. in my mind, whether someone acts on it or simply lurks for this kind of pornographic material, doesn't really matter to me. both deserve unapologetic and severe punishment.

listen, i could be a heroin junkie and have no sense of myself - you'd feel bad, maybe sympathetic, and maybe even want to offer me help. but what if my actual motivation was to get children hooked on it because it fulfilled some kind of deep desire i thought i couldn't control? should i be noticed as someone who simply "has an affliction" that requires understanding and patience?

no. i'd only deserve to be buried alive.



As an aside: why do sex offender registries even exist? If someone is enough of a danger to society that they need to be labeled and watched constantly shouldn't they just be left in jail?


100% with you on this - best to let them rot in a dark cell. in fact, i'd personally take the side with other members here and bring back public executions for things like this. better to have children watch what happens to pedophiles than to have them be at the mercy of their "disease."
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posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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Sadly it's a fact that many paedophiles were themselves abused, in fact studies show that this is quite common. We can only hope that the attention in the liberal West on child abuse will reduce the number of victims, and thus reduce the potential for ongoing abuse.

Unfortunately, child abuse is unchallenged in some parts of the world, so while such terrible acts will reduce in the West it will still persist elsewhere.



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: facedye

The evil part of me wants them to be sent to a jail full of male rapists, who will punish them daily and fill them with terror...a moofoo can dream I suppose...

Reap what you sew and all that...

Rev



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

I have been abused for most of my life and I didn't become a sexual predator of any sort. So why should previous abuse even count? Sure, sex with children does become normalised if you are being abused in that way, however how you behave after your own ordeal is your choice and it shows what kind of human being you are.

After everything I've been through, nothing could ever make me harm anyone sexually, because I know the fear and terror it causes and to be frank, I know right from wrong.

Rev



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Kalixi

I assume that this was a TOR onion site so those talking about IPs are going to be disappointed. It would also seem a virtual certainty that the site didn't request personal information and that if it did, none of the users would have provided accurate information.

What they should have done and hopefully did do is setup sting operations for those trying to arrange meetings to sexually abuse children. Beyond that, there's what the feds have been playing with for a few years here — use a 0-day exploit to get the users' browsers to download malware that phones home with the users' IP addresses, etc.


I think the issue is with those sting operations is many of them (the hosts) are based in countries with little to no cooperation with American/Western law enforcement, and those that do cooperate have less than stellar reliability with these sort of crimes to say the least for all sorts of reasons

Ukraine, Czech Republic, Mexico, Thailand, Morocco, and so on. It's not so easy to seek prosecution in the places the actual hosts operate from.

The most a sting operation can really achieve in most cases is catching the users while the owners will continue to operate. You can take down their actual website but it'll be back up under a new name within a matter of days.

If only they perused these crimes with the ferocity with which they waged the International War on Drugs and the War on Terror

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posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

With TOR, doesn't the person who controls the nodes control the data or something like that? I use it every day, but can't for the life of me remember.

Rev



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: revmoofoo

I honestly couldn't say, i'm not an expert on such things.



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

Me neither. I did all the reading when I first started using it, but I have a memory like a sieve.

Rev



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Ohanka


Maybe not public but they've certainly earned a death sentence.

Because they viewed child abuse?

(ponders)

Look., okay, Im a child abuse victim, my whole life was ruined by it. I agree thats awful, I personally sometimes want to hurt the people responsible then I get hold of myself, realizing I shouldn't seek revenge on them, eye for an eye and all...

...makes the whole world blind.

How about a nice game of Chess instead?


As a Christian, I have to say we shall not kill, but at what point do we hold someone who seeks out the crime as part of the process?

Some of these places provide child sex torture and even murder and the viewer pays to see it, that is why it is made. In fact, the viewers are the total reason for most of the crime thus they are the criminals who cause its production.



posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox




I can't blame a pedophile for being a pedophile. I can only blame them for actually acting on it.

Then also at the same time, I reflect on my attraction to women. How long could I go without attention or interaction without a woman before going crazy? A year?

These people have to go they're entire lifetime depriving themselves of their attractions. Their existence must be hell for them. I feel bad for them to a degree to be honest.


If your need drove you to rape and torture to get what you need I hope you would kill yourself.




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