a reply to: Merivin
Its a great suggestion, but there are some problems with it...
Tens of thousands of people is next door to no people, statistically. The systems which place about the wrists of populations, the shackles from which
we require escape, are global. Businesses, corporate entities whose advocates have the ear of all the major world powers, whose agents are abroad in
every nation, whether welcome or not, engaged in prospecting, speculation, industrial espionage and the creation of hegemony at every level,
politically and economically, socially and even spiritually.
This is a system supported by stupendous amounts of money, employing, at varying degrees of awareness on the part of employees of that system,
MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of people. You cannot even make a system like that uncomfortable, leave alone dissolve it, by the application of the truth by
tens of thousands of people.
Then you have the problem of the truth itself. What is the truth? There are things I know to be as true as gravity, as true as the beat of my heart,
which are considered bunkum by others, and not just a few others, but a great mass of people. My understanding of the way that these people have come
across their anti-science, often xenophobic, intolerant, genocidal attitudes is that they have been accessed from an early age by propaganda on the
part of the system, which no amount of truth can cure. I should know, because the ones I have encountered in these parts, particularly lately, are
totally fact resistant to a hitherto unthinkable degree.
Those who disagree that Snowden is one of very few actual patriots left in America, along with Chelsea Manning, for example, have no idea what the
word patriot means. They believe it means a person who does as they are told by a succession of administrations and leaders that no one ought to
trust, without saying a bad word about them, or any of the illegal things that ones intelligence and military agencies do, in the name of the people
they allege to serve. But in truth, a patriot puts themselves at risk to protect the liberty and freedom of the people, and that makes both Manning
and Snowden patriots, nothing more or less. They put themselves at significant risk, in order to let the people know that their government was doing
things in the name of the people, that it had no right in law or in the spirit of it, to do at all, in ANYONES name, leave alone in the name of the
people. Be that the outright and inexcusable murder of tens of thousands of people in a series of utterly avoidable events in theatres of war, or the
illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of millions of innocent people, those things are matters which the government had no right to hide, and it
took patriots, yes, patriots to reveal them.
But half the people you talk to, no matter how much supporting evidence you give them, no matter how many times you read the constitution of their
own nations to them, no matter how often you cite the law on what a government may and may not hide, and the reasons it may or may not hide a matter
from the public, these people will STILL insist that those individuals I have named, are traitors, guilty of treason, should be shot, hanged, put in
the chair or otherwise.
We cannot even get people to agree on the meaning of a word which has only one meaning, not ten or twenty, but one. The propaganda has been too
successful, the programming is too deep. This is not a recoverable situation, and the majority are programmed little slaves, who will suckle at the
teat of the far right lunatics who want to silence dissent in the world, before they ever listen to a word of reason from anyone. They rely on it for
survival, they are addicted to it, and will not put it down until it is cut off. There are not the numbers to achieve this, precisely because the
programming happens to work better than the truth does, because it is easier, requires less thought, and that is what a huge number of people
What to do we replace it with? To hear some people talk, they would install a Darwinian elimination system, whereby if you do not succeed, you
perish, and I mean immediately, despite the fact that success is, as a matter of provable FACT, not dependent on hard work, in fact, many hard
working people, most of them in fact, will NEVER achieve anything, despite the nobility of their purpose and the determination they have to keep at
it. Again, the fact averse argue this point based on their anecdotal evidence of their own, small, irrelevant successes, rather than taking a broad
view and examining the lives of more than just the few inconsequential individuals they are related to, in order to come to conclusions on these
matters. Leaving the matter of what to do next in the hands of people like this, would simply replace one sociopathic, greedy, avaricious, self
important bunch of bastards, with another group of sociopathic, greedy, avaricious, self important bastards, and frankly, that does not need to happen
in the slightest.
YET, when you proffer any alternative to this impossible state of affairs, people throw the world socialist about, like its an insult, and ignore
your every reasonable suggestion, as they have done with every person who has tried to suggest something other than the system which seems to prevail
at the moment, in both America and the UK, not to mention much of the developed world besides. You have to earn your rights, you are not born with
them. That, regardless of the whimpering of constitutional scholars in this day and age, is precisely the situation which prevails at the moment, yes,
even in the "mighty" United States, a country containing a great many wonderful people, being led by one of the worst people to ever be born in ANY
period in history, a greedy, muck raking, ignorant, clueless shaven ape, with all the moral fibre of a jihadist, but less willingness to get his hands
dirty. Its a nation of hard working people being led by a man who has never done any REMOTELY hard work. He signed documents, he wrote notes to staff
in the poorest grammar imaginable, hes gotten by simply by way of having started out loaded, from which position even a total moron (case in point)
can succeed, but (less than half) the people voted for him, and there he is, in all his golden, ridiculous splendour, being bad at the most important
job in the free world, and ruining decades of progress, GOOD progress into the bargain... and why is he getting away with it? Why are people not
actually going to literal, hot war, not protest, but war with their government? The same reason they refuse to go to war with their government here in
Because a little less than half of people support the system which is killing them, even when they believe or announce that they want to smash the
system. The phobics, those who hate the poor, the weak, the sick, those who insist on privatised healthcare, trains, and public services, those who
have a Conservative approach, are literally doing the work of these systems for them, and will never accept that they are the problem, not its
edit on 6-7-2017 by TrueBrit because: grammatical errors removed.