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Chemotherapy may spread cancer and trigger more aggressive tumours, warn scientists

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posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:28 PM
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Ut oh, a huge money maker (in the US) could be causing cancer to spread into a more aggressive tumors?


Chemotherapy could allow cancer to spread, and trigger more aggressive tumours, a new study suggests.

Researchers in the US studied the impact of drugs on patients with breast cancer and found medication increases the chance of cancer cells migrating to other parts of the body, where they are almost always lethal.

Around 55,000 women are diagnosed with breast cancer in Britain every year and 11,000 will die from their illness.
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Chemo before surgery to shrink tumors, then surgery. The study indicates that chemo may change the patients body and increase "doorways" and allow the cancer to spread.


Many are given chemotherapy before surgery, but the new research suggests that, although it shrinks tumours in the short term, it could trigger the spread of cancer cells around the body.

It is thought the toxic medication switches on a repair mechanism in the body which ultimately allows tumours to grow back stronger. It also increases the number of ‘doorways’ on blood vessels which allow cancer to spread throughout the body.

edit on 5-7-2017 by seasonal because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
Ut oh, a huge money maker (in the US) could be causing cancer to spread into a more aggressive tumors?


Chemotherapy could allow cancer to spread, and trigger more aggressive tumours, a new study suggests.

Researchers in the US studied the impact of drugs on patients with breast cancer and found medication increases the chance of cancer cells migrating to other parts of the body, where they are almost always lethal.

Around 55,000 women are diagnosed with breast cancer in Britain every year and 11,000 will die from their illness.


Chemo before surgery to shrink tumors, then surgery. The study indicates that chemo may change the patients body and increase "doorways" and allow the cancer to spread.


Many are given chemotherapy before surgery, but the new research suggests that, although it shrinks tumours in the short term, it could trigger the spread of cancer cells around the body.

It is thought the toxic medication switches on a repair mechanism in the body which ultimately allows tumours to grow back stronger. It also increases the number of ‘doorways’ on blood vessels which allow cancer to spread throughout the body.


So does this open the door for lawsuits?



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

The medical establishment make a HUGE amount of $$$$ from cancer (in the US). It would be a bloody bloody battle.

Imagine the lengths that the medical establishment would go to keep this under wraps....Imagine.....



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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I am glad that this is getting out in the open.Maybe now we can start moving away from chemo and on to other treatments,whatever they may be.We have been clinging on to chemotherapy for far to long.In my opinion anyways.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

The medical establishment make a HUGE amount of $$$$ from cancer (in the US). It would be a bloody bloody battle.

Imagine the lengths that the medical establishment would go to keep this under wraps....Imagine.....


And imagine all the malpractice lawyers suiting up and hitting tv screens heavy...



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Well, then let's look at it this way: I wouldn't be troubling folks on ATS today if I didn't consent to chemo about 12 years. Without chem, I wouldn't have lasted but a couple of months. So that perspective is the alternative to this thread.

Oh, by the way, my wife had breast cancer, surgery and radiation after. No chemo. She still died. The simple fact is that breast cancer is a killer. Surgery literally cuts some of that bad stuff loose to move to other parts of the body. Her's went to her liver.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

Yep, they would go to bat for your, and 33% of any decision $$$.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Thank you for the info. My wife is a cancer survivor, so imagine how important your thread is.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

But...but...but ..... I thought we understood the human body? We are putting all of these chemicals into sick people that will only make them sicker in the long run, if they live that long?

So once again, it is all about the money. Hippocratic Oath my rear.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun

I am truly sorry for your loss. Cancer is indeed a killer.

This study seems to be pretty narrow in it's description and it's theory. I hope this will lead to better treatments.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

Is it the chemicals we are putting into healthy people (food-health and beauty supplies-medications) that may be the problem?



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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Not all chemo drugs do that. I don't think it would be wise to do chemo before surgery anyway. Taking antioxidants while you have cancer is not good. They shield the body from identifying the chemicals from rapid growth. They can protect you if you do not have cancer, but supplements should not be taken if you have it. It is not the time to start trying to make up for your mistakes. Many Doctors tell a person to stop taking antioxidants when they have cancer.

There would be some natural ways to slow the cancer so the body can kill the cancer of the breast. Aromatase inhibitors would work somewhat. You can use celery/parsley chemistry or even grapefruit chemistry to inhibit aromatase activity. Don't eat soy products either. You can even use Milk Thistle to inhibit aromatase. Bromelain can help to dampen cancer progression too. I know other ways to kill cancer, but these target breast cancer well and the article was about breast cancer.

Celery/parsley chemistry is good for killing more than breast cancer, that would actually be immunotherapy not chemotherapy. That family includes cilantro, oregano, and even carrots. Parsley flakes taste good on chicken though, better than taking a medication.

Once you have full blown cancer, it needs to be taken out most times, Some chemotherapy is necessary sometimes. I personally would get the operation and probably run my own chemo/immuno therapy regiment. I won't take some of the pills doctors give that ease your suffering either, no med will work with those, I have research some of those drugs to ease your departure. I know some people who were put on them after saying no more to chemo. It kind of makes it impossible for a person to try anything on their own and succeed. It is a nice option to lessen your suffering time if you elect to die though.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: seasonal

Well, then let's look at it this way: I wouldn't be troubling folks on ATS today if I didn't consent to chemo about 12 years. Without chem, I wouldn't have lasted but a couple of months. So that perspective is the alternative to this thread.

Oh, by the way, my wife had breast cancer, surgery and radiation after. No chemo. She still died. The simple fact is that breast cancer is a killer. Surgery literally cuts some of that bad stuff loose to move to other parts of the body. Her's went to her liver.



I feel for you. My grandmother died of breast cancer. She refused treatment and used alternative methods. At least that's my understanding.

My grandfather fought cancer and just recently finished chemo in May.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: ClovenSky

Is it the chemicals we are putting into healthy people (food-health and beauty supplies-medications) that may be the problem?


Oh, I completely agree with you there. I think cancer could probably be greatly reduced or eliminated through healthy eating (getting rid of processed foods/franken foods).

I just can't comprehend that we don't understand why cancer develops or that people do know but aren't being honest because they won't make money that way and yet we try and sell these 'cures'.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun

F*ck cancer....f*ck it so much.

Thanks for sharing a flip side.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: ClovenSky

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: ClovenSky

Is it the chemicals we are putting into healthy people (food-health and beauty supplies-medications) that may be the problem?


Oh, I completely agree with you there. I think cancer could probably be greatly reduced or eliminated through healthy eating (getting rid of processed foods/franken foods).

I just can't comprehend that we don't understand why cancer develops or that people do know but aren't being honest because they won't make money that way and yet we try and sell these 'cures'.


I don't think we eliminated the snake oil peddlers... just made it far more profitable.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
Ut oh, a huge money maker (in the US) could be causing cancer to spread into a more aggressive tumors?


Chemotherapy could allow cancer to spread, and trigger more aggressive tumours, a new study suggests.

Researchers in the US studied the impact of drugs on patients with breast cancer and found medication increases the chance of cancer cells migrating to other parts of the body, where they are almost always lethal.

Around 55,000 women are diagnosed with breast cancer in Britain every year and 11,000 will die from their illness.
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Chemo before surgery to shrink tumors, then surgery. The study indicates that chemo may change the patients body and increase "doorways" and allow the cancer to spread.


Many are given chemotherapy before surgery, but the new research suggests that, although it shrinks tumours in the short term, it could trigger the spread of cancer cells around the body.

It is thought the toxic medication switches on a repair mechanism in the body which ultimately allows tumours to grow back stronger. It also increases the number of ‘doorways’ on blood vessels which allow cancer to spread throughout the body.


Well I think it was always problematic and some patients become very ill with the chemo.

It won't be very nice news for people who have already had chemo, been stabilised temporarily, then needed more sessions when a tumour begins to grow again, and that occurs all the time. Maybe, someday..but there is a lot of research water under the bridge.
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posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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There are piles and piles of cash made from cancer. If I remember correctly if cancer went away tomorrow, it would be a 40% hit to big medicine.

That alone is a reason for the status quo to be reinforced.

From a business stand point not solving this is a golden goose.



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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Who would of thought that radiation could make cancer worse?



posted on Jul, 5 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: eXia7

it didn't mention radiation...it mentioned chemo....anyway I always like to look up the person when a study is done.... here is an interesting page on the guy...

www.researchgate.net... he has his name on 55 research papers on various cancers and such....

not that many women in the study but he also did the study on mice with breast cancer...and bigger studies coming down the pike......this will be worth keeping an eye on



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