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0.5 mgs risperidone for a seven year old?

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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: 123143




She has no business denying his meds. I hope his parents stop using you as babysitters.


She has reconsidered absolutely.
Poor kid

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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: DupontDeux




To be brutally honest, I do not think your wife get a say then.


Brutal honesty is still honesty and sometimes the best honesty.
Much appreciated amigo.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

My now adult daughter was first diagnosed as adhd-same as her bro and dad. I didn't see it and pushed-found but she had CAPD-central auditory processing disorder-can mimic many other disorders but is very specific-there are very few docs who have even heard of it. Takes a real specialist. There is none in Atlanta-she was diagnosed at The University of MN when we lived there.

So far, no real help. And it varies by the individual. The ears hear but the brain does not properly diagnose what the ears hear. Sign language can help-noisy places like some classrooms (schools only exacerbate the issue-I sued the school system and won) situation-social issues develop and anger-so those must be deal with.

Best wishes. Never give up and please don't blame the child-they can't help it. It takes real love and a special person to push for help.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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Risperidone is indicated, at that age, for irritability or autistic associated disorders. The dose is indicated at anywhere form 0.5 to 3 mg per day. So it looks like he is on the low end on the dose. Although this is an approved use, I am not a big fan of using it in patients this young due to the side effects, both mental and physical.

Gynecomastia as well as weight gain are common side effects. Not to mention the fatigue, and general lethargy seen in most patients. It also has major warning for increase in suicidal ideations in children/teens.

Don't want to get to far into this, as I do not have the patients file, but in general, psychiatrist's make me want to punch them in the face sometimes. In the course of my day I see some baffling prescribing practices. A quick example. I have a patient who is a 15 year old girl who is on 30 mg xr adderall in the AM, and 20 mg immediate release adderall in the afternoon. That in an of itself isnt odd, but then you have the same Doctor prescribing her (high dose too) Ativan for anxiety!! WTF do you expect a**hole, you have her on 50 mg of amphetamines a day, I would be a little anxious too.

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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: Justso




Best wishes. Never give up and please don't blame the child-they can't help it. It takes real love and a special person to push for help.


That's it right there. This is what we both see lacking in Kadens life.
To us, it seems like he needs to be given a chance to just grow out
of it. It's hard seeing him take all these different pills everyday.
Sucks!



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:02 AM
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Don't want to get to far into this, as I do not have the patients file, but in general, psychiatrist's make me want to punch them in the face sometimes. In the course of my day I see some baffling prescribing practices. A quick example. I have a patient who is a 15 year old girl who is on 30 mg xr adderall in the AM, and 20 mg immediate release adderall in the afternoon. That in an of itself isnt odd, but then you have the same Doctor prescribing her (high dose too) Ativan for anxiety!! WTF do you expect a**hole, you have her on 50 mg of amphetamines a day, I would be a little anxious too


And there you have the reason for our concern.
Thank so much for that.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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Somebody needs to firmly kick a doctor who is receiving massive kickbacks from big-pharma square in the teeth.

Consenting adults shouldn't legally be allowed to consume/cultivate cannabis to help ease a strained back after a long day at work - but prescribing this # to a pre-pubescent child is just a-okay.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: randyvs

Only qualified as an Emergency Medical Tech/M.A./Advanced Life Support...not as a physician, not qualified to address it further.

Its more than members opinions on the singular drug itself, but in conjunction with others taken, and the long term effects of the combinations. The drug is common, prescribed for that age is not un-common, the dosage mentioned isnt unheard of....but...

Other meds taken with it need to be assessed with contra-indications and side effects to expect. I would at the very least get a second and even 3rd opinion 1st of it in combination and dosage levels over time.

The only issue I see is not necessarily the drug itself..but the 'what-ifs" when used with other meds. Good luck.

MS
EMT/ERT
ADLS



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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sometimes cold turkey withdrawals are deadly, if you guys havent done serious research and or have experience with tapering off a medication you could literally be putting this childs life in danger.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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My son has Oppositional defiance. When at school, he's a totally different kid then when at home. Something triggers him and he flys off the handle and goes bat snip.
He was prescribed a slew of different "coping" medications including an antipsychotic.
He never touched them.
We pulled him out of that school, and register him with the Children's centre.
It's a sort of special school that still follows the set curriculum for his grade.
But as opposed to a class room of 20-30 kids. It's class sizes are of 5-8 kids.
They also do cognitive therapy, so he learns what his triggers are and how to apply coping mechanisms.
The kid is the smartest kid I have ever seen. And I'm not just saying that because I'm his step father. When he was in grade 4, his teacher signed him up for an online learning program called Prodigy.
He was successfully completing grade 9 school work.
So he's got the brains, he just doesn't know how to deal with criticism or being around large groups of people.
But his new school, actuall focuses on the students individually. Teaching him the tools he needs to integrate back into a normal class room.
It's a stepping stone to get him back on track.

Have your wife look into one of these types of schools in your area.
I'm sure the boy will benefit from this type of focus more than anti-psycho meds.
But then again, I don't know the entire back ground or history.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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I'd be careful about discontinuing any medication without consulting the physician who prescribed it. Who knows if it's being prescribed in an off label manner or to counter some unwanted effects of other drugs he might be on.

While not as dangerous to withdraw from as benzos, risperidone does have a withdrawal, and I wouldn't want to put that on any kid.


1. Time Span
How long did you take Risperdal? In general, the longer you take an antipsychotic, the more difficult it is to withdraw from. People that have been on an antipsychotic for a couple months should have an easier time withdrawing in comparison to those who have taken one for years. Additionally the longer you are on a drug, the more dependent you become on it for everyday functioning.

2. Dosage (.25 mg to 16 mg)
How much Risperdal did you take? People that take this medication for schizophrenia tend to need higher dosages to help manage symptoms. For schizophrenia, the average daily dose ranges between 4 mg to 16 mg. Individuals who take it for bipolar disorder generally take anywhere from 1 mg to 6 mg. Additionally those who have autism may take a very low dose from .25 mg to 3 mg to manage irritability.

Obviously the higher the dose you take, the more you are becoming dependent on the drug for functioning. Therefore it is always recommended to be on the minimal dose for symptom management. Being on the minimal dose makes withdrawal easier and also helps minimize unpleasant side effects. If you have been taking large amounts of Risperdal over an extended term, it is likely going to be much more difficult to withdraw from.

3. Cold Turkey vs. Tapering
It is never advised to quit a powerful antipsychotic drug like Risperdal “cold turkey.” If you quit without conducting a gradual taper, you may end up with an array of symptoms that are overwhelmingly difficult to cope with. By conducting a conservative gradual taper, you are allowing your nervous system to adjust to very small decreases in medication over time until you are down to 0 mg.

mentalhealthdaily.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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sometimes cold turkey withdrawals are deadly, if you guys havent done serious research and or have experience with tapering off a medication you could literally be putting this childs life in danger.


My wife will read this and see that I'm jumping ship and pointing
my finger at her.


She gave him the meds tho.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 10:57 AM
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My son has Oppositional defiance. When at school, he's a totally different kid then when at home. Something triggers him and he flys off the handle and goes bat snip. He was prescribed a slew of different "coping" medications including an antipsychotic. He never touched them. We pulled him out of that school, and register him with the Children's centre. It's a sort of special school that still follows the set curriculum for his grade. But as opposed to a class room of 20-30 kids. It's class sizes are of 5-8 kids. They also do cognitive therapy, so he learns what his triggers are and how to apply coping mechanisms. The kid is the smartest kid I have ever seen. And I'm not just saying that because I'm his step father. When he was in grade 4, his teacher signed him up for an online learning program called Prodigy. He was successfully completing grade 9 school work. So he's got the brains, he just doesn't know how to deal with criticism or being around large groups of people. But his new school, actuall focuses on the students individually. Teaching him the tools he needs to integrate back into a normal class room. It's a stepping stone to get him back on track. Have your wife look into one of these types of schools in your area. I'm sure the boy will benefit from this type of focus more than anti-psycho meds. But then again, I don't know the entire back ground or history.


This sounds exactly like Kaden. My wife will read this now.
Thank you for posting bigtime.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 11:00 AM
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By denying him his medication(s) she has interfered with his blood levels, how much he has on board. It takes time to get to the maintenance level.

Sure he seems fine to you. He's operating on residual medication in his tissues.

Your wife, however, may have put his parents in a difficult position once they get him home.

Neither of you are doctors. What makes you think you have the right to interfere in this way?

Disgusting.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 11:03 AM
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It's a hard business is caring and many don't really appreciate that. It can really work at contrasting emotions and pull you around mentally in all kinds of ways. All the questioning and doubting goes hand in hand with it



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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Perfect information.
Thank you Underwerks



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
...psychiatrist's make me want to punch them in the face sometimes...


I could add a few names to that list


To be fair, the vast majority that I've dealt with are great and a credit to their profession. Patients often have harsh words for them, but then again many of the patients don't believe they are ill therefore "the doctor must be incompetent".

There is a small handful of doctors that, in my opinion as an outside observer, do more harm than good - mostly due to their attitude rather than the medicine they hand out. I know this is going to cause a bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth, but honestly... older female psychiatrists tend to cause the most problems.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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Neither of you are doctors. What makes you think you have the right to interfere in this way? Disgusting.


No he wasn't denied anything my wife wanted to deny it but she
got put in her place by yours truly.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: PorteurDeMort




They gave this to my great aunt who had Alzheimer's. Even though the contraindications said not to prescribe to elderly patients with dementia. One of the side effects is sudden death in those patients. Within 3 months, she was dead. No one should take risperidone.


You just sent chills down my spine.
My wife says his guardian dropped one of the pills on the floor
and said, " Oh sh1t don't let my cat get that, it'll kill her."
But she gives it to her grandson?

WTF is that?


No joke. While it seemed to calm her down when she would have psychotic episodes, she was very lethargic and detached. More so than usual. She was 92 and very frail. After I did some research on risperidone, I questioned my great aunt's doctor when we brought her for a follow up about a month after she started taking it. His response was chilling, he simply said that it worked and we should be thankful that she was much more calm. Again, 2 months after that visit, she died.



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