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Planet X or Project Blue Beam? Two Suns? Two Light Sources in the Sky

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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 05:58 AM
a reply to: Chadwickus

I work outside every day in a place that averages 11 hours of sunlight annually.

Wow the NW WA must be great nowadays for growing mushrooms with that amount of light.... is that around 108 seconds per day?
LOL and a for ya @ the wet mess....

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 06:47 AM
a reply to: SoulSurfer

I have only taken notice that the sun seems to travel a slightly different path in the sky versus prior seasons/years. My research led me to JPL/NASA for a possible explanation. 

Earth does not always spin on an axis running through its poles. Instead, it wobbles irregularly over time, drifting toward North America throughout most of the 20th Century (green arrow). That direction has changed drastically due to changes in water mass on Earth. Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech

The researchers found the answer in Eurasia. "The bulk of the answer is a deficit of water in Eurasia: the Indian subcontinent and the Caspian Sea area," Adhikari said.

The finding was a surprise. This region has lost water mass due to depletion of aquifers and drought, but the loss is nowhere near as great as the change in the ice sheets.

So why did the smaller loss have such a strong effect? The researchers say it's because the spin axis is very sensitive to changes occurring around 45 degrees latitude, both north and south. "This is well explained in the theory of rotating objects," Adhikari explained. "That's why changes in the Indian subcontinent, for example, are so important."


Admittedly, my own opinion, the more colorful skies are simply more moisture in the atmosphere creating spectacular prism effects from the sun. As far as two suns? Have not seen that. Even with the pictures you supplied, east and simply appears the sun is rising and the rays are viewable against the western clouds. One must remember that the Earth is not flat, so on reaching the horizon...line of sight curves. 
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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 06:55 AM
a reply to: SoulSurfer

For the past couple of weeks I've been keeping an eye on a strange phenomenon in the sky.

Let's cut to the chase: have you seen any of these "strange phenomena" personally, or have you been watching videos on YouTube?

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 06:58 AM
a reply to: CovertAgenda

Ah bugger, yeah obviously that's 11 hours a day.

Not much rain or many clouds here.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 07:05 AM
a reply to: SoulSurfer

Tell you what, YOU go photograph these 2 suns and let us know. Hoax.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 07:38 AM
I'm guessing you're feeling pretty frustrated right now OP. Our fellow members are being a bit snitty imho. Bashing someone isn't really the best teaching tactic if that is your intention. There are many great minds down through time that people laughed at, yet here we are.

Something must be going on, because it is getting a lot of people's attention. Heck I sat one morning in the same place I had sat for months at the same time watching Jupiter rise every morning and then actually witnessed Jupiter decide to slide about a foot across my windshield and just poof disappear. Totally cloudless crisp winter morning. Sun was just beginning to light the horizon. I actually posted about it a long time ago. It was startling to say the least. It's not everyday you see a planet just suddenly move to the left quite a distance in space miles and disappear. I KNOW WHAT I SAW.

I feel like other people are feeling the same way that they know what they are seeing. Granted some may be confused about things, that's a given. Not everyone is as smartly as some of our ATS members apparently. Still though, I watched the videos presented and I have to admit a couple clips in some of them I found to be intriguing.

I've lived in Florida for most of my life with clear views of the East and West. I don't think I've ever seen the rays from two light sources like what was presented. I know I'd really be scratching my head if I did. I know moon rays wouldn't do that and I've seen it rise many times while the sun is setting.

I actually almost stopped one of the videos because they were saying a huge UFO was in it. I thought they were referring to an obvious camera flare, but dang if a UFO didn't go sailing by at an incredible height. Betcha guys didn't see that did you. I doubt it, too busy typing out your doctrine knowledge to the OP on all things.

I found the last video of Soho very intriguing. The guy was a little long winded, but I do think it is worth the watch. Clearly something was being hidden and I have to say it certainly seemed that whatever it is, it seems pretty big and round. To be there for one frame then gone, well I don't know, but I'm sure one of our many wise members will be quick to tell me it's such and such yada yada. Which is fine if that's really the true answer.

You're right OP, people like us keep throwing the darts and eventually we will hit the bullseye. Oddly enough many darts thrown in the past that ended up hitting the bullseye are now proven scientific facts because someone discovered or asked why?

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 07:40 AM
Lens effect.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 07:41 AM
a reply to: onehuman

Going to have to try a lot harder than that to get me to fall for a known HOAX.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 07:44 AM
a reply to: SoulSurfer

Here's a reddit post I think might interest you. The OP thinks that TPTB are trying to hide something, which becomes visible during sunset, with geoengineering through the usage of chemtrails.
Clouds at Sunset (Update)

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 07:56 AM
I have been seeing red sky's in the evening since I was a preteen, its just dust or ice crystals refracting the suns rays, usually a harbinger of a nice day to follow.
Google it.
The video with the black dot on the sun's disc and the giant 'flare' to the left is a bit of a worry though.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 07:59 AM
YouTube videos (including SecureTeam) and Reddit posts. What a wonderful background of info
1) Basic physics and gravity - any object as large as a planet or star anywhere in this solar system = mass chaos and destruction . No exceptions.The Earth has long since went the road of possible DISINTEGRATION . Especially if it is ANY kind of star.

2) It wouldnt be that only a select few would see it. Everyone would. And felt it as most likely everything would be pulled off the Earth . Most definitely the atmosphere.

And that is just a start using SCIENCE. Not mysticism as some folks do...
Read a book or two , learn.
Deny Ignorance
That is all

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:01 AM
I have Seen The double light source at sunset . Twice I have seen it. And only after I moved to Florida,and only at sunset, no other time during the day ....however, both times the sky was very cloudy with lots of little rippley clouds, and more of those clouds on one side of the sky then the other... .i did read up on it back then when it happened as it was pretty amazing looking ... Basically ,The clouds allowed for the Rays and light to create an illusion of a second light source.....I'm not going to phrase this correctly , but it had something to do with the type and qty of clouds, ...the water and precipitation in the clouds, ....and the sunlight reflecting or bouncing through all of that .....again, not scientifically phrased correctly , but basically the sun rays traveled around the clouds with the clouds acting like a mirror and caused an illusion. .....both times it was pretty cool looking though .
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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:03 AM
a reply to: Josephus

Like I said, where I live, we average 11 hours a day of sunlight, almost never any clouds or contrails to block the view.

I've seen nothing at sunset or any other time of the day.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:05 AM
As for the sky being a funny red color....many things in the atmosphere can cause that , and depending on where you are int world right now it could be : heat , volcanic ash, air pollution , storms such as hurricanes , typhoons ,cyclones , gases from earthquake activity ....many things . But there is the old saying ; " red sky at night , sailors delight , but red sky in the morning, sailors take warning ! " I never worry over a red sunset .

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:07 AM
Video's from known conmen like wso and $cott from the nibiru channel isn't going to prove a thing. Those idiots will show you anticrepuscular days and red skies at sunset, making out it's something abnormal, it's not.
You really need to do some more research away from channels like that, but I don't think you really want to in case it ruins your preconceived notions of what you THINK you're looking at.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:09 AM

originally posted by: pikestaff
I have been seeing red sky's in the evening since I was a preteen, its just dust or ice crystals refracting the suns rays, usually a harbinger of a nice day to follow.
Google it.
The video with the black dot on the sun's disc and the giant 'flare' to the left is a bit of a worry though.

What's worrying about a lense flare or the black dot on the sun? ( which is a known camera artifact caused by the digital cameras sensor being overwhelmed by the light of the sun)

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:12 AM
a reply to: SoulSurfer

This is a thread that will need careful analysis. I understand skeptics, I am still skeptic myself. But keep an open mind because something is definitely not quite right in our world.

All of your material is sourced off WSO video's. Surely you are aware of Steve Olsen's personal difficulties and how he began this? Right there you have to stop and ask yourself "why am I listening to this guy"?

Too many people go off the deep end and altho they may be charismatic it doesn't mean they are playing with a full deck. Spreading doom porn is a very lucrative business. So crafty like a fox? Maybe.

Not the best technical interview out there, but all stories have two sides.

CynConcepts reply to you is probably not what you wanted to hear, but it's valid. I've been also looking up and I'm not seeing two light sources.

It's been discussed many times here on ATS about other planetary bodies being "undiscovered" but, with the amount of amateur astronomers nightly checking out the skies it'd be impossible for anyone to cover something like this up, or keep it hushed up. It's simply not possible to muzzle everyone. I agree the earth's probably shifted some on it's axis so things are somewhat different, but that's a long way from someone pandering to alarmists.

I'm using the Inuit information for you cause it's also interesting they tie the difference in the earths new axis to climate change. Something that should be a no-brainer but we don't hear much about.

A new warning has come to NASA from the Inuits. They are warning that the change in climate is not due to global warming but rather, because of the Earth shifting a bit.
The Inuits are local people that live in the Arctic regions of Canada, the United States and Greenland. They are excellent weather forecasters and so were their ancestors. Presently they are warning NASA that the cause of change in weather, earthquakes etc, are not due to global warming as the world thinks. They also report that
They state that the earth has shifted or “wobbled”. “Their sky has changed!”
The elders declare that the sun rises at a different position now, not where it used to previously. They also have longer daylight to hunt now, the sun is much higher than earlier, and it gets warmer much quickly. Other elders across the north also confirmed the same thing about the sky changing when interviewed.

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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:13 AM
a reply to: Caver78

It's not possible to cover it up at all since it can be seen with the naked eye in these videos.

posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:19 AM
nearly 8 billion people on the planet. Most of those have working eyeballs. Most of those will look up at the sky at least once a day.

And yet, only a few reports on some fringe facebook groups who like to pat each other on the back, misinterpret data and feel special, and some well known hoaxer vids.



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posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 08:27 AM

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: Elton

Last I checked... Sun dogs dont give out rays. because the sun dog is simply a reflection, it is impossible for it to have the same rays of the sun.

Watch from 2:28 minutes forward:

Screenshots 2 Different light sources giving out rays.
This one is from facing one side

This one facing the opposite side.

THIS is a sun dog (below)

a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

yes, I share in some of this theory. Who was it that said that a UFO invasion would bring in a new world order? a false flag on an epic scale? just a theory for now. But keep watching the skies. Interesting times are here.

Those "seeming rays" are a well known thing. It's normal and a natural occurrence. They are called Crepuscular Rays and are an atmospheric optical effect. If you haven't seen them before they are spectacular and awe inspiring. But having NOT seen them before leads to misinformation like this. ^^^ LOL!!

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