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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TerryDon79
Children with gender dysphoria don't decide. Anyway if that is what the child will identify then the gender will be assigned. See? Problem solved.
We can wait until it hits puberty and we'll know for sure.
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TerryDon79
Children with gender dysphoria don't decide. Anyway if that is what the child will identify then the gender will be assigned. See? Problem solved.
We can wait until it hits puberty and we'll know for sure.
Puberty might be too late if it already identifies as a girl with a penis or a boy without.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: hombero
Your post is disgusting.
originally posted by: hombero
a reply to: Deaf Alien
I don't care what you think. If you can't understand logic then you are doomed.
originally posted by: CaptainBeno
a reply to: Abysha
Nobody decides what gender they are to begin with. You are the one saying that. What I'm saying is that I don't see any benefit to having gender on a birth certificate.
Sorry, I'll repeat it again.
If you have a vagina....you are not a boy.
If you have a penis, you are not a girl?
Easy.
Same as I don't have any African descendants in my DNA, therefore I cannot say "I'm an African"
DUH?
It's pretty easy?
I could say "I'm a tree" But I'm not
End off.
Even If I were to cut my Penis off and transforn it into a vagina and grow some breasts.......biologically, I'm an odd dude with a vagina and breasts. True stuff.....honest mate.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TerryDon79
Children with gender dysphoria don't decide. Anyway if that is what the child will identify then the gender will be assigned. See? Problem solved.
We can wait until it hits puberty and we'll know for sure.
Puberty might be too late if it already identifies as a girl with a penis or a boy without.
Why would it be too late? If you are right about children "choosing" their genders then the puberty will "decide" for them, no matter how much the parents try to convince them (as claimed by some people here).
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TerryDon79
Children with gender dysphoria don't decide. Anyway if that is what the child will identify then the gender will be assigned. See? Problem solved.
We can wait until it hits puberty and we'll know for sure.
Puberty might be too late if it already identifies as a girl with a penis or a boy without.
Why would it be too late? If you are right about children "choosing" their genders then the puberty will "decide" for them, no matter how much the parents try to convince them (as claimed by some people here).
But it might not.
That's part of the issue, I believe. Assuming an absolute. That's the only reason I've been using the what ifs, because what if?
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TerryDon79
If you do know about them then you should recognize your argument as a fallacy.
"What if a parent want to make species unspecified?" "How about the date and time of the birth?"
Do you realize how silly that sounds?
Make sure to let me know when that happens.
About as silly as putting no gender on a BC when it's a little boy or little girl.
Reread the OP. The parents said they are letting the child decide later so the gender will be assigned.
So no problem here.
You're assuming the child will pick a gender.
It's possible it won't.
Are you saying that the chld will be too dumb to know it's gender after observing others of the opposite sex?
Not necessarily. There are intelligent adults who choose not to identify with a gender.
My point is that child will know at the right age without prompting.
So the argument is moot anyway. We're debating over nothing.
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
Gender, apparently, doesn't rely on if you have the right body parts any more.
The world is a very weird place.
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
Gender, apparently, doesn't rely on if you have the right body parts any more.
The world is a very weird place.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
Gender, apparently, doesn't rely on if you have the right body parts any more.
The world is a very weird place.
By his standard, it does. So is he incapable of looking down his pants if he needs to remind himself what he has down there?
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TerryDon79
Children with gender dysphoria don't decide. Anyway if that is what the child will identify then the gender will be assigned. See? Problem solved.
We can wait until it hits puberty and we'll know for sure.
Puberty might be too late if it already identifies as a girl with a penis or a boy without.
Why would it be too late? If you are right about children "choosing" their genders then the puberty will "decide" for them, no matter how much the parents try to convince them (as claimed by some people here).
But it might not.
That's part of the issue, I believe. Assuming an absolute. That's the only reason I've been using the what ifs, because what if?
Yeah I love arguing the hypotheticals too.
We can wait and see how it works out for the child, if it makes the news again later. To me I don't think there is any problem other than the possibility of other children making fun of it if they find out.