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The OPIOID EPIDEMIC -- Seeking Your Thoughts.

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posted on Jun, 30 2017 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Good deed for the day..!





posted on Jun, 30 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Look at Afghanistan opium production in 2001 when 'The Taliban™" was in-charge (7%) and what it is today (close to 90%)

This I learned while I was boxing My compass getting ready to be retired out w/a broken back/neck fighting "The War on Drugs" I first went through 19 months of Physical Therapy 4x a week for 1 1/2 hrs. Then I went to 5 different surgeons/specialists in Ca. and 2 more here and I'm waiting for My back to get operated on. I have been on the same dose of opiates for 13 years now, the same as when I started but I do Yoga and am now physically fit, oh and I also use Cannabis in its legal form ..

When the "Pill Mills" were closed, those folks now had to go buy their junk on the streets, so they had to buy pills or the more readily available Heroin. (look at Cee EYE A/Vietnam body bags) So the U.S. first had an opiate pain medication epidemic followed closely by a Heroin epidemic. Are there more/less "Private Jails/Prisons"?

When I started in the Police Business, it was "The Crack War" this is when the Urban user/abuser was sent to Prison for 'rocking it up and making 3x the amount of $$$' while the sub-Urban user/abuser was sentenced to Probation for using the same drug but in powder form (coc aine Hydrochloride)

The difference now is the $$$ grubbing turds don't care who they make their $$$ from..

P.S. there isn't more dope being used in the ghettoes/lower income housing, the police only target these folks because they are less apt to retain private counsel (They do "plea bargains" 95% of those incarcerated are there on a Plea bargain)

Proud Member of LEAP.cc Law Enforcement Action Partnership nee: LE Against Prohibition



posted on Jun, 30 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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Addiction has to start somewhere after all it's just a pill right. All the other drugs I tried weren't that bad. After all it is labeled a medicine.

I'm not condoning drug use I'm just using the example many people fall into with addiction. I've been surrounded by drug addicts for 35 years.

I've seen a lot of lives destroyed.

People with no history of drug use don't just wake up one day and say I'm going to go buy Oxycontin. Sure some people get hooked from being prescribed it. Most that get hooked try it on the street level.

I've seen it with family and friends.



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: underwerks


On the surface, I like the idea of legalizing some substances. This generates additional income that can be used for constructive purposes.. like gambling does for certain localities.

On the negative side, what if someone we love is killed by a "high" person driving over the yellow line?

I don't believe it should be the governments job to try and protect me from myself.



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Ill catch flack but a LOT of similar and disimilar but still bad statistics are worse in the South. Cannot say why exactly for sure.



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: carewemust
It's definitely an "epidemic". I'm running a medical dispensary in Colorado that specializes in getting people off this garbage.

In states with medical marijuana painkiller deaths drop 25%

edit on 1-7-2017 by JAY1980 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 1 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980
a reply to: carewemust
It's definitely an "epidemic". I'm running a medical dispensary in Colorado that specializes in getting people off this garbage.

In states with medical marijuana painkiller deaths drop 25%


This was one of the big selling points when my wife talked me into buying property in Maine. Green keeps me clean. Were the Colorado options available to me in NY, I could drop half of my prescriptions. But here, their answer to the opiate crisis is to clamp down on Docs who prescribe. Now I'm fine with the State monitoring what the Docs are prescribing, to an extent. But when I have to sign a contract w/ my pain management specialist agreeing to drive down there on a days notice for a full count of all my meds and random urinalysis to monitor levels in my system to calculate what I took and how long ago along with a disclaimer that if I test positive for cannabis I will be kicked out of the practice and not be dispensed refills... I find that egregiously insane. They find it perfectly acceptable to force me into horrific withdrawal because I would prefer a medicine that doesn't have those side effects!

Especially when one of the Republicans who voted against Medical Marijuana here changed his tune and was forced to obtain medicine illegally from out of state once his child was diagnosed with a disease that was greatly aided by using cannabis products, its bull s#. I always appreciate the irony of a hypocrite who is forced to see the other side of the coin when it hits close to home.

I waffled on posting in this thread because I've been on both sides of this equation as both a "junkie" according to many people posting here as well as the legal prescription end of things. The less than legal past wasn't born of a desire to get high though. It was a last act of desperation because my body was destroyed serving my country and like 60% of all former active duty military, I was denied VA health benefits. When you can't move, when everything you do is excruciatingly painful and all you want to do is get through the day, go to work and try to be a productive member of society but nobody is willing to help you because the VA denied me but regular health insurance wouldn't cover any of it because according to them it was a preexisting condition, a desperate person will go to great lengths to be free of pain.

There are a multitude of mitigating factors that can lead to someone becoming an addict. Naivete and foolishness are definitely large factors for many people as well, but nobody wakes up one day and says "Hey, I think I'll throw away my life and everything I've worked for today". It only takes a few days to build up enough tolerance to begin having mild withdrawal symptoms, a couple of weeks on legitimate prescriptions, monitored by a doctor will lead you down the same path as the average street junkie. The fear and desire to avoid withdrawal is a far stronger monkey on your back than the desire or will to be clean and anybody comparing cigarettes to opiates and ranting about willpower is a fool who has no idea what they are talking about, yet I see that analogy all too often in these threads.



posted on Jul, 2 2017 @ 12:01 AM
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Selling fake Oxy pills made from Fentanyl or co-Fentanyl should get the dealer a life sentence.

The same as selling fake drugs with cyanide in them.

I never understood how people got high on morphine or Fentanyl, they did nothing for me and i was maxed out after my 5 way heart by pass surgery.



posted on Jul, 3 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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Chinese trade of deadly opioid carfentanil thrives at the cost of North American lives

globalnews.ca...

China does not genuinely hold America's best interest at heart. We are nothing more than seriously delinquent debtors to China. This is the primary reason China steals IP(intellectual property) from America, at will, without consequences. Our borders are foreign owned. Our government is decentralized and transnationally ran.




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