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posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

We're losing? Perhaps you don't understand what is happening.

Trump won the election. Congrats. You get that one to boast over. Hillary was not very likeable and she lost because of the system we have in place. That is fair.

But...Trump is in power. The GOP is in power. And even though they could do so, they can't get a healthcare bill passed. For years they have had the chance to create the most epic HC plan of all HC plans and pass it quicker than Usain Bolt at a high school track meet.

Can't do it.

Trump is in power and the GOP is in power, yet the president can't control himself enough that he makes stupid, ignorant tweets that even make the Republicans say "ya, were not with this loon".



Sorry, but it's true. Your immaturity screams, your uninformed lock-step adherence to your socialist ideology bleeds from every pore of your being.


Socialist? I'm a socialist. Can only think of one other on this site and one other in real life.

You believe propaganda. You believe in the new millennium "red scare".

Trump is a product of that and the Republicans have pushed it for years. Now it has come to bite them in the ass. They can no longer support it because it created an ignorant mass of people that are ill -informed and frighten easily at shadows on the wall.

Again, they cannot even get enough support to repeal Obamacare. They want to re-write it again.

Tell me who's losing?
edit on 29-6-2017 by introvert because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: spacedoubt

Wow...let's all just jump off a cliff, shall we??

I guess there's no solution, so we should all just, well...die.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

the entire op is basically insult after insult, personal attack after personal attack on everyone who might identify as liberal, along with some who don't identify as liberal but just don't agree with some of the positions the right has been taking of late so others decide they are liberal. it's gotten to be so common on ats that a lot of people are just deciding to spend their time doing other things instead of participating on these boards. seems to me, we are all losing!!!



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Thank you. You readily acknowledge being a socialist.

This country is not socialist. In fact, this constitutional republic was founded on preventing monarchist and socialist governments.

So...it would appear you are at odds with the foundation of this nation.

Sorry.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Please do enlighten me...where are the insults in the OP again?

I mean, let's not confuse "insults" with "facts".

So, I'll wait.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Gothmog

the entire op is basically insult after insult, personal attack after personal attack on everyone who might identify as liberal, along with some who don't identify as liberal but just don't agree with some of the positions the right has been taking of late so others decide they are liberal. it's gotten to be so common on ats that a lot of people are just deciding to spend their time doing other things instead of participating on these boards. seems to me, we are all losing!!!


Where ?
Or is this a case of selective reading ?
I think the latter. And just because it strikes a cord with someone , absolutely doesnt make it a personal attack
Only if it touches home....



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk



Thank you. You readily acknowledge being a socialist.


I always have. But you do not get to push labels on to others and blame me for their own ideas.



This country is not socialist. In fact, this constitutional republic was founded on preventing monarchist and socialist governments.


It's not. And it is not in danger of being taken over by socialists. Again, you are scared of shadows on the wall.



So...it would appear you are at odds with the foundation of this nation.


Sad thing is, I bet I can better argue the merits of the Constitution than you can. It's a great piece of work. It defends all of us from people like you.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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... as the echo chamber grows smaller and smaller ...

Thankfully more Americans than EVER are seeing through the simplistic dichotomy of "right and left" ... still the few faithful desperately seek out reassurance that they are not the fools they know they are.

How trite and pathetic ...



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Yeah, yeah, I get that the OP was about railing against the left. But again, you're talking about the extremes, which is a vast minority. In the end, what we're talking about is our leaders, because they determine our future as a society. Trump, imho, is a lost cause. Obama was, I think, rational, but was a horrible politician and communicator. We need a leader that can pull people together, not drive them apart - and we haven't seen that in quite a while. Problem is, I think we've scared all the good ones away..

Anyhoo, back to reality. What dumba$$ remark has Trump tweeted now...



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


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Sad thing is, I bet I can better argue the merits of the Constitution than you can. It's a great piece of work. It defends all of us from people like you.


I sincerely doubt that, but I leave you to think it. Yes, yes it is. As to you last statement, my only response is...oh, the irony!



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:38 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
... as the echo chamber grows smaller and smaller ...

Thankfully more Americans than EVER are seeing through the simplistic dichotomy of "right and left" ... still the few faithful desperately seek out reassurance that they are not the fools they know they are.

How trite and pathetic ...


Bingo!




posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Awwww, C'mon...is that the best ya got????

Geez, I thought you could do better than that!



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

How would giving millions the chance to expand their minds through higher education lead to mediocrity? Being progressive i.e. wanting to progress as an advanced civilization is not going with the flow. Especially the current capitalist flow.

It is understanding that letting tuition and medical costs sky rocket only benefits the already insanely wealthy and basically allows only the rich to succeed in life. While middle and lower classes are told to go out and get a job and work for it. Well let me ask you this. What are millions of people supposed to do. When there is a limited amount of jobs in their areas and they can't afford to move.

Now I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone as there are people that take advantage of the system but that can be said for both sides of the spectrum and I think making all those tax evading companies bring all their money back would benefit us far more. Than putting thousands if not millions of people on the streets.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


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Sad thing is, I bet I can better argue the merits of the Constitution than you can. It's a great piece of work. It defends all of us from people like you.


I sincerely doubt that, but I leave you to think it. Yes, yes it is. As to you last statement, my only response is...oh, the irony!



As to your OP. Oh, the ignorance.

Irony is easy to swallow. As for ignorance, don't choke on it.

Good luck.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:46 PM
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a reply to: introvert

I don't waste much time these days on mindless drivel such as this OP; I congratulate you and some of the others in your patience in dealing with what's left of the pathetic, triggered Trump sycophants.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

facts??? tell me, just what city did liberals burn down??
you then in a later post declared about half the population of this country you enemies... but you refuse to even consider the evidence that russia might have overstepped with their meddling in the election, no they are more your friends than your own danged countrymen!!!
I go about my business everyday, get along with everyone I come into contact with, really don't care what they think politically although I do enjoy discussing politics with them if they choose to bring it up...
I am not violent!!!
nor am I desparate...
nor am I immature!!!
not lawless either... matter of fact, if you conservative ever stretched the truth on your income taxes, you are more lawless than I am!!!
and, it's conservatives like you, with your arrogant and your "your either with us or the enemy" crap that makes me feel good to call myself liberal...



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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a reply to: conscientiousobserver

I hope you will understand what I am about to say; there are both things I agree with and things I very much do not agree with in your post. In fairness, your post is worthy of a more detailed response. However, it will involve just that, a much more detailed response. Consequently, I am going to hold off on that detailed response for a moment if you don't mind, while I respond to some other posts. I sincerely hope you will understand.

(and I mean that with all honesty).



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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I guess the left doesn't remember if you're against Obama, you're racist,

For 8 years it was election's have consequences.

They sure do...

Star & Flag



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

YAY!! AWESOME!!

/sarcasm

Go back and re-read your post...in the mirror. Seriously?



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 11:51 PM
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It is just the far left that is losing out, the regular left is soon going to permanently inalienate themselves with the far left. Some of the concerns of the far left weren't bad, but they screwed up and lost their credibility. Maybe it will settle down now. Nobody here is even backing the left at all anymore, with all the BS from MSM being proven crap people are starting to abandon the Democrats. I think the Republicans are going to do pretty well in future elections.

I have an idea. Is it possible that MSM was spreading all the deception and acting like they were siding with Democrats to make people lose trust in the Democrats? Could MSM actually be working for the Republican Party to sabotage the left?

You can look at things two ways, the scheme I am talking about is actually well used in the business world to get people on the side of businesses instead of environmentalists. Just a possibility, I have no idea if they are actually doing that.



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