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originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: crayzeed
I think a good idea would be to round them all up and take them to the nearest army training center and enroll them.
For basic training make sure their training sergeant is black and after training they MUST do two years on foreign assignment before even being allowed to leave the army. If they don't comply, in the brig until they do.
After two years service if they haven't learned their lesson sign them up for another two years.
No exceptions, senators sons, judges sons (or daughters) no get out, all to do service to their country.
The trouble is you can't fix stupid. Giving them military training may not be in our best interests...
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight
What I think many are missing is that if you were to do lifelike re-enactments with cadavers the whole charade would come tumbling down. Its like after a while they stopped showing the body bags US personell from the Middle East. No one would sign up to fight for the MIC fake narrative.
The glory of war and all, minus the suffering. Yes, what better method of indoctrination. Like on tv where 'actors' get murdered all the time but they don't actually show 'too much', because of 'ratings', i.e., censorship.
We are de-sensitized by tv murder and stupid stuff like reenactments, parades, marching, war movies, whatever.
It works too, by the time we are young adults we've seen thousands of deaths on TV, are pre groomed to take sides, embrace nationalistic fervor, wave flags and defend 'our way of life'.
Now heres a gun, go kill the designated 'enemy'.
I think they should add a civil war era field hospital to their reenactment, they could saw off limbs without anesthetic, todays make up artists could really put on a good up close and personal display of that for the crowd.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: pteridine
Protest, in this case anti war protest, is always put down by the powers that be, making that into a 'more terrible than war' thing in everyones minds.
Protest properly defined should include some form of civil disobedience, that is breaking 'laws' that restrict freedom of speech but appear to be upholding all the good.
Like blaming these people for 'dumping over grave stones' and they have done no such thing. Whats that compared to waging unjust war and holy hell, the death of thousands , millions , ongoing?
In great deeds something abides. On great fields something stays. Forms change and pass; bodies disappear; but spirits linger, to consecrate ground for the vision-place of souls. And reverent men and women from afar, and generations that know us not and that we know not of, heart-drawn to see where and by whom great things were suffered and done for them, shall come to this deathless field, to ponder and dream; and lo! the shadow of a mighty presence shall wrap them in its bosom, and the power of the vision pass into their souls.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
Gettysburg was a fight for the soul of our nation, the balance was sitting on a razors edge... quite possibly the course of the battle and possibly the war was decided by one mans decision on the first day of this battle.
IF Ewell pushes on day 1 and takes Cemetery hill there is a very good chance that the south wins the battle and this could have changed the course of the war.
The South would have been in position to threaten the Capital or any number of major northern cities, there actions post battle could have brought in outside help or possibly even forced the north to negotiate.
By the North winning the battle it effectively ended the war in the only way it could, this preserved our nation and set its course for the next 150+ years.
So yes... it was a battle for the soul of our nation... and should be protected, studied and remembered for all those that fought in it on both sides... bitter enemies forgave each other.. we their descendants should learn from their example and start talking to each other once more like civil human beings.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: pteridine
The OP was about desecrating war graves, not the evils of war.
The threat of it, not the act.
But do go on, about whats 'right' with war and wrong with protest, (also included in the OP).
originally posted by: pteridine
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: pteridine
The OP was about desecrating war graves, not the evils of war.
The threat of it, not the act.
But do go on, about whats 'right' with war and wrong with protest, (also included in the OP).
There is nothing wrong with protest as long as it does not break any laws.
But do go on about your previous comment that stated protest, properly defined, should include "some form of civil disobedience, that is breaking 'laws' that restrict freedom of speech but appear to be upholding all the good."
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Asktheanimals
My high school ex's father was really into tactical strategy games of the historical sort where you had rules to factor in terrain and all the units had separate stats to try to accurately reflect their historical ability and strength, etc.
He would set one up and run it over and over in a series trying different scenarios just to see how the battle would fall out starting with how it actually happened historically. Sometimes, he would run the same thing more than once just to get an idea of the odds of what happened actually happening.
Gettysberg was a favorite of his.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: pteridine
There is nothing wrong with protest as long as it does not break any laws.
They haven't, but are already demonized.
War breaks all laws.
Antifa is demonized because of their violent 'protests' which are excuses for mere thuggery.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: pteridine
Antifa is demonized because of their violent 'protests' which are excuses for mere thuggery.
Buzz words aside, compared to war, none of anything protesters or demonstrators do matters even the slightest.
except to warmongers who hide their activity behind gentle euphemisms like 'reenactment', intervention and humanitarian aid.
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Asktheanimals
My high school ex's father was really into tactical strategy games of the historical sort where you had rules to factor in terrain and all the units had separate stats to try to accurately reflect their historical ability and strength, etc.
He would set one up and run it over and over in a series trying different scenarios just to see how the battle would fall out starting with how it actually happened historically. Sometimes, he would run the same thing more than once just to get an idea of the odds of what happened actually happening.
Gettysberg was a favorite of his.
LOL! I did the same with Avalon Hill board games and still play Civil War Generals 2 for pc that came out in 1996. He and I should get together, seriously.