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No rushed vote for healthcare bill in house

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posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: Logarock

that $800 you dumped into private insurance...that...that will pay for it...and it will not be $800 but perhaps 2-$300, so you will be able to save about $500 a month.




posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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I loved my insurance before.....



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: MissCoyote
I loved my insurance before.....

I loved my insurance 30 years ago.
I liked my insurance a lot more just before the ACA (Obamacare).
I like it a whole lot less right now.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Hate my sht now. I pay for crap i dont need. Maternity no sweetheart i dont need maternity i paid 15,000 to remove headaches in my life after my 2nd bout of insanity



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Democrats : We'll force you to buy healthcare and then if someone stops forcing you, we'll say they took away your insurance.

Sorry but the individual mandate was a Republican idea one they had been trying to get through since Clinton was in office. So your usual whine just shows you are clueless in this matter. Shouldn't you be busy praising that old German hag you call a Queen for one thing or another?



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Logarock

that $800 you dumped into private insurance...that...that will pay for it...and it will not be $800 but perhaps 2-$300, so you will be able to save about $500 a month.


There is no way that would pay for it. Coverage parameters will expand. Not even the 800 is going to cover my single payer involvement.

That low figure is just not going to happen. It basic math JH stuff at the right school. Single payer would have to set up on a means basis for it to work which means me paying much more under considering the total load that system would be under. I mean where do you think the government is going to get the cash to float and stabilized a system like that? Middle class.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: Logarock

not JUST middle class...but EVERY class...yes



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: UKTruth
Democrats : We'll force you to buy healthcare and then if someone stops forcing you, we'll say they took away your insurance.

Sorry but the individual mandate was a Republican idea one they had been trying to get through since Clinton was in office. So your usual whine just shows you are clueless in this matter. Shouldn't you be busy praising that old German hag you call a Queen for one thing or another?



Well its clear by now that Dems and Republicans are dumbs asses about health care systems and insurance anyway. Its all about political heroics, political cash ins, ect nothing real.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Logarock

not JUST middle class...but EVERY class...yes


Dude they would means test poverty cases and have to means test folks making income and the later will naturally have to pay more.

Let me help you out. Were you trained up at lib university? Well all this stuff they cramed in your head was done so without any real world 2+2 economics.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: Logarock

im sure to you, every university was "lib" university.

so...yeah



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Logarock

not JUST middle class...but EVERY class...yes


Dude they would means test poverty cases and have to means test folks making income and the later will naturally have to pay more.

Let me help you out. Were you trained up at lib university? Well all this stuff they cramed in your head was done so without any real world 2+2 economics.

Yes, if everything was spread evenly, using 2016 health care costs in the US of 3.32 Trillion dollars.... myself and my two children that are still under age 18 would have to shoulder $2,500.00 per month to shoulder our personal share.
The means testing would probably mean that my share would double.
Over half of the citizens in the US are getting some sort of government support today.
If I have to pay much more, as it is now, I might have to consider going on the dole myself (not really... I think I am still too proud).



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: Logarock


Your post is a little hard to read, are you saying that they (the gov't) will have to figure out a system to find out how much $ people are making and also have poverty tests?



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Logarock

im sure to you, every university was "lib" university.

so...yeah



Be that as it may be I did set under hard socialists for a bit and economic reality is not in their realities. They would let their big banker friends figure it out. Which is what single payer is.....a big banker idea.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Logarock

im sure to you, every university was "lib" university.

so...yeah



Be that as it may be I did set under hard socialists for a bit and economic reality is not in their realities. They would let their big banker friends figure it out. Which is what single payer is.....a big banker idea.

Yes.^^ That.
3.32 Trillion dollars is a really big pot to skim from.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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Obamacare is not good. Trumpcare will not be much better, but it will stop some greedy medical professionals from milking the system. I don't consider either of these very good. We messed up our healthcare royally before Obama took over, it happened about fifteen years ago.

We need to go to socialized medicine for a main insurance then have insurance people can buy based on extra coverage they want.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:42 AM
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why do people insist in getting the government and corporations involved with healthcare? in the first place for most people healthcare is actually cheaper paying out of pocket and doesn't drive cost up like insurance obviously does.

are people suddenly unable to take care of themselves and manage their own lives properly without the government or corporations getting involved?

they sure brainwashed you all without you even realising it.
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posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: butcherguy

The thing you need to remember though is that by going to a single payer system is that the government is now setting the prices on drugs, equipment, procedures.

I think you'll see a drastic decrease in healthcare costs when we're no longer paying $500 for a drug that costs the rest of the world a couple bucks.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: UKTruth
Democrats : We'll force you to buy healthcare and then if someone stops forcing you, we'll say they took away your insurance.

Sorry but the individual mandate was a Republican idea one they had been trying to get through since Clinton was in office. So your usual whine just shows you are clueless in this matter. Shouldn't you be busy praising that old German hag you call a Queen for one thing or another?


Implemented by Obama and Democrats - it's a Democrat policy through and through. Ideas are not laws.
You liberals trying to rid yourself of the failure of Obama is very funny.


Not going to work - wear it.
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posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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also, with single-payer, doctors may make less, they will become government workers and still make a nice income, it just will be a pretty big change for them, especially since they can no longer over-charge for procedures, medical devices and drugs. They may prefer single-payer, i have seen some doctors talk about how they would like the switch.

Also, I do believe, there will be more clinics, each section of the city/town will be assigned to one. In the past 10 years many "walk-in" clinics have popped up in CVS's, Kroger's, etc. These may be your normal check up, quick procedural medical stops. Hospitals will still be around, but not as many will be needed.

It will be a huge change, but for the better. Doctors can still choose to practice something specific such as podiatry or cardio-vascular and make extra money...just as they do now.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

i personally dont think the individual mandate is a failure, i just think its funny that people like you like to complain and complain and it has been a republican idea for years.

I will claim all of Obamacare, i think its great. Too bad the republican governors tried and succeeded to derail it at the expense of american lives.

I dont think he was pawning it off, just making a funny observation.



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