No rushed vote for healthcare bill in house

Im not so shocked that this is not being discussed here.

Looks like "trumpcare" just...well...sucks.

www.businessinsider.com...

and trump is "OK" with it

time.com...

Seems like he is setting himself up for something spectacular...single payer? His millionaire cohorts seem to think that is the way to go...

www.dailykos.com...

and

www.zerohedge.com...

a reply to: veracity

I'll take what I'll get, as long as they get rid of the mandate, I'll be happier than I was.

I'll have to settle for whatever else they do.

Not like I could change things anyway.

a reply to: veracity

Well when you start out trying to save the crap Obama care thing you will have that.


Taking away a mandate will run the thing into the ground anyway if it ever had a hope.

how can they socialize it without implementing controls of prices and stop price gouging?>

a reply to: veracity

We have quite a few threads on this, thanks for the update anyway.

Other members of the GOP Senate conference also appear to be on the fence about voting for the legislation, officially named the Better Care Reconciliation Act. Many of them wavered after an analysis from the nonpartisan CBO released Monday predicted that the BCRA would reduce the number of insured Americans by 22 million in 2026 compared with the current baseline.

The Senate Republican healthcare bill is collapsing

Autsch!

#Idon'tcareact

It doesn't matter which party passes a Healthcare bill. Either way it will be written and rubber stamped by the insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

It's going to suck and we'll all be paying more one way or the other.

Democrats : We'll force you to buy healthcare and then if someone stops forcing you, we'll say they took away your insurance.

a reply to: watchitburn

I dont care which side passes a working healthcare plan, as long as it works

originally posted by: UKTruth
Democrats : We'll force you to buy healthcare and then if someone stops forcing you, we'll say they took away your insurance.

that would be bc the republicans really WILL be taking away insurance to those who have had it, thanks for reiterating that.

Sad that there are people in power that want to do this.

originally posted by: UKTruth
Democrats : We'll force you to buy healthcare and then if someone stops forcing you, we'll say they took away your insurance.

The "individual mandate" is the major sticking point in all of this.

It's the one thing that I disliked the most out of all of it.

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: UKTruth
Democrats : We'll force you to buy healthcare and then if someone stops forcing you, we'll say they took away your insurance.

that would be bc the republicans really WILL be taking away insurance to those who have had it, thanks for reiterating that.

Sad that there are people in power that want to do this.

Oh is that the 20m number?

CBO and JCT estimate that, in 2018, 15 million more people would be uninsured under this legislation than under current law—primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.

a reply to: DBCowboy

but it is necessary.

Why would Americans NOT want healthcare anyway?

Even the most healthiest american could get hit by a car, arrow thru the eye, raped and pillaged...you get the point.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: DBCowboy

but it is necessary.

Why would Americans NOT want healthcare anyway?

Even the most healthiest american could get hit by a car, arrow thru the eye, raped and pillaged...you get the point.

Healthcare is necessary.

Health insurance shouldn't be.

a reply to: UKTruth

It may be part of the #, but even if there is just 1 (one) person who gets their insurance ripped away (and I already know a few) bc of trumpcare and they cannot get treatment...that is 1 too many.

Also, even the ignoramoses that believe they do not want healthcare...they best be taking care of themselves anyway. I dont want one to get a disease and infect me or my family bc they were too dumb to get it taken care of.

a reply to: DBCowboy

But healthcare is expensive. Very expensive.

Insurances is a necessary evil.

Single-payer would fix all of that.

(and buh-bye insurance...I wish i could write that now)

a reply to: veracity

Socialized medicine, the whole lot of it, is unconstitutional.

If it wasn't, we'd have had it decades ago.

Anyway, like it, hate it, we'll have to play the cards we've been dealt.

*shrugs*

a reply to: DBCowboy

its not all that unconstitutional...but i understand where you are coming from.

I believe its unconstitutional to take away someones insurance...could be borderline murder for some cases.

I also believe it should be an American right to be healthy and a healthy country is a strong country.

The huge divide between rich and poor is a sign of a weak country.

A country that takes care of its poor is obviously a strong country.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: veracity

I'll take what I'll get, as long as they get rid of the mandate, I'll be happier than I was.

I'll have to settle for whatever else they do.

Not like I could change things anyway.

Apparently 18 million people agree with you.... according to the CBO.

Most of the reductions in coverage would stem from repealing the penalty for not having health insurance, the CBO estimates, because people would just drop their insurance plans.

The Hill
They would 'lose' insurance coverage because they would opt out voluntarily once the mandate is gone.
Not everyone wants insurance.
Not everyone wants to be forced to buy insurance.

But no one was forced.... that was a tax.... not a penalty.

a reply to: UKTruth

primarily because the penalty for not having insurance would be eliminated.

Wrong.

The revised bill attempts to solve that problem by imposing a penalty on those who don't maintain continuous insurance coverage: People who let their coverage lapse for at least 63 days in one year would be locked out of the insurance market for six months the following year.
www.npr.org...

Lose your job, or have some other personal problem that causes you to lose your coverage for 63 days? No insurance for you until you pay 6 months of premiums!

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: DBCowboy

But healthcare is expensive. Very expensive.

Insurances is a necessary evil.

Single-payer would fix all of that.

(and buh-bye insurance...I wish i could write that now)

How would that get paid for? I just dumped 100 in SSI and 50 into Med 200 into FED last week as well as 800$ into private insurance.