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Sweden on the Brink of Civil War, National Police Chief: “help us, help us!”

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posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: Waalter

This is the problem... I can find more than 5 Swedish people in youtube who actually claim the contrary to what you and some others want to claim...



in the following video, a Finnish (yes i know she is from Finland...) woman which in youtube goes under the name of "The Swan of Tuonela" points out how a Swedish police officer decided to speak out about the reality of migrant crime in Sweden.



I wonder what all the women who have been groped, assaulted, and even those that have been raped by migrant Muslims would have to say about your claim that "you are taking this out of proportion"...

Heck, it could even be pointed out that in just one article it mentions 35 Swedish women who were assaulted by Muslim youths in one festival...




posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Waalter

This is the problem... I can find more than 5 Swedish people in youtube who actually claim the contrary to what you and some others want to claim...



in the following video, a Finnish (yes i know she is from Finland...) woman which in youtube goes under the name of "The Swan of Tuonela" points out how a Swedish police officer decided to speak out about the reality of migrant crime in Sweden.



I wonder what all the women who have been groped, assaulted, and even those that have been raped by migrant Muslims would have to say about your claim that "you are taking this out of proportion"...

Heck, it could even be pointed out that in just one article it mentions 35 Swedish women who were assaulted by Muslim youths in one festival...



I don't know if your just trolling or whatever.
Nobody said we dont have a problem with immigrants, we do.

But to clickbait and call it an invasion and a "civil war" is just idiocrocy.

But hey, you're American, probably fat, riding a truck and if you don't blow stuff up, you're just not an american. Right? (Prejudice: an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.)
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edit on 29-6-2017 by Waalter because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion



I am just waiting for that day, where I hear nothing about what goes on in another country. I am surprised this thread has went on this long.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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Anyway, one last message before I leave.




posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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originally posted by: threepwood
For crying out loud! Sweden is not on the brink of civil war! It is not as bad as these crappy "journalists" are claiming it to be, nowhere near it. It's media hype over nothing. Let's put it this way, on a scale of 1-10 on how dangerous this situation is I'm going to rate it a 2 maybe 3 but that's pushing it far mostly due to our economy

/Pissed off Swede reading all this BS.


They won't listen. These maniacs actually WANT the world to start falling apart, and are wetting themselves at the thought of war. They want it so much that they won't listen to anyone going against their agenda, not even people like you that actually live in the country these false claims are coming from.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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NVM
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posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
For f#k's sake man, you don't even read your OWN articles, why am I surprised when you didn't bother to watch your own videos but just read the title and assume it agrees with you:

- It is unfortunate that it happened. It is probably inattention, simply a mistake, says Per Skogh from Swedish Tax, to Ekot.

As recently as last year Sweden tightened the rules against child marriages. It is no longer possible to get special permission to get married if you are under 18 years old. Also new offenses that will strengthen protection against forced marriage were introduced.

Since 2009, the practice has been not to accept marriage with children under 15 years.

- It is a good legislation which has made it clear that child marriage is not allowed in Sweden, says Aleksander Gabelic, chairman of the Swedish UN Association, to Aftonbladet.

So no child marriage allowed. And the wrist bands, are to raise AWARENESS, in campaign to teach people to speak out, to know rights, and to report to police officers!
Police Campaign
This is like talking to an ElectricBrickWall



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Gee, if JihadWatch.org says so, it MUST be true... I'm those folks have no biased. F'g embarrassing to use this as a source. But hey, that's what ATS is ALL about. Pathetic...



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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This video -



Was being touted upthread as evidence that Swedish people are supporting the chaos/civil war/muslim invasion narrative. It's not anything of the sort. It's a political rant, long on rhetoric and short on detail, directed at migrants (although what percentage of her audience speaks English is unclear) and aimed at discouraging them from settling.

A large amount of the play time is spent putting forward reasons why migrants will not find Sweden all that luxurious, i.e., she is actually arguing against the 'Sweden is a soft touch' line that's being spun on this thread.

Watch it and judge for yourself.

As for the video of the police chief, it's not clear to me what the source is. But that's not important, really, so much as two things. One of those things is about what the video does say and the other is about what it doesn't say.

The first point is that the start of the video clearly cuts in half something that he was saying before the scene began (as in, it's a 'hard cut', no pause, no lead-in, no fade up). All that we know is that he was saying something that ended with the words 'help us'.

The second point is that the rest of the video goes on to show that he is talking about the accurate reporting and recording of crime figures.

This makes it clear that it relates to the 'open letter' I posted a page or two back, in which it was made clear that the 'help us' statement was directed to victims of crime, urging them to come forward and help us (i.e., the police) do their jobs.

The person who edited this video so deceptively knew exactly what they were doing. If the 'help us' statement on that video related to some kind of plea for international help, or troops on the street, or anything even remotely supporting the 'civil war' nonsense, then the video editor would have been stupid to edit it out. But they weren't stupid, even though they relied on their audience being stupid.
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posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
People, please listen to what the Swedes in this thread are saying. They're saying its all BS.

My Swedish friends all say it's BS.

The Swedish media say it's BS.

This is all about the alt-right in America getting rabidly worked up by finding all these 'no go zones' in Europe that 'prove' Muslims are evil and undesirable. And it's almost all made up by the alt-right press.


Yes, there are problems relating to unemployment and poverty. But those are the same everywhere, from downtown Detroit to downtown Baghdad.


Well let's be fair the alternative right didn't force this sweetish police chief to say these things. That's the core issue why did he say it and what did he mean by it???

To say this was created by anyone other than the police chief is a lie. The real question is did he mean it the way the article states.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr




the alternative right didn't force this sweetish police chief to say these things


No, they just made this about refugees while he said it isn't.

So the sweetish (that's actually nice!) police chief forced the far right to come up with a lie in support of their clickbait fearmongery? Probably, it's all a big gubbermint conspiracy...


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posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: audubon

I'm not going to try to figure out why she hates Muslims. All I'll say is she obviously has a problem with them. Is this do to experience or hatred?? It's obvious not all theor citizens feel the same way. But there does appear to be a problem that many even here are trying to ignore.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: audubon

I'm not going to try to figure out why she hates Muslims. All I'll say is she obviously has a problem with them. Is this do to experience or hatred?? It's obvious not all theor citizens feel the same way. But there does appear to be a problem that many even here are trying to ignore.


Oh, no, indeed - if all Swedish citizens felt exactly the same and thought exactly the same things, then that would be eerily like The Stepford Wives or worse. There are going to be Swedes who hate the current situation, just as there will be others who are OK with it. The question is: What is the objective truth?

The video-maker obviously feels passionately about her subject. But what she is saying is her opinion, and it's not clear how much of it is derived from direct experience. Given the lack of precise details (times, places, events, etc) in what she says, it's hard to take it as evidence of anything apart from the depth of feeling that the migrant situation arouses in some Swedes.

In any case, what she is saying is not -- contrary to the way it is being presented on this thread -- any kind of evidence supporting the notion that Sweden is on the verge of civil war/societal collapse/genocide/jihad (delete according to taste). She doesn't claim any of those things, or anything even approaching any of them, which would be a bit daft if that was what she was trying to get across.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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This is stupid... Let me paint a clear picture for you. Sweden has been a country where it's citizens feel safe wherever they go, at least compared to other countries with major cities. Now that crime has peaked a little over here suddenly theres a civil war brewing, lol. What you are reading is extremely relevant to how it used to be, safe and sound. I promise you a troubled youth from one of these so called no go zones would not be prepared to last in a real ghetto, not by a long shot. It's NOT a war zone over here, it's just not. It's more than the police were used to handle and that's it, period.

ps. I'm not trying to downsize this at all... Ats is about denying ignorance and this is ignorance at it's best.
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posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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Living and working in Boston, I also find it hard to believe that Boston is apparently a "no go zone" according to some.

a reply to: Pyle



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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"Look what's happenning in Sweden."

Trump right again.



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: toolgal462

Spent many years there (Brookline), lovely city



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Gee, if JihadWatch.org says so, it MUST be true... I'm those folks have no biased. F'g embarrassing to use this as a source. But hey, that's what ATS is ALL about. Pathetic...


I KNOW.

Imagine the UPROAR over a site called "ChristianWatch.org" or maybe "WhitePeopleWatch.org".



posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Gee, if JihadWatch.org says so, it MUST be true... I'm those folks have no biased. F'g embarrassing to use this as a source. But hey, that's what ATS is ALL about. Pathetic...


I KNOW.

Imagine the UPROAR over a site called "ChristianWatch.org" or maybe "WhitePeopleWatch.org".



Wait...

Are ypu implying all muslims are jihadis and white people could not possibly be included with real muslim jihadis because you believe islam is a race?

That seems awfully bigoted.
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posted on Jun, 29 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Sweets are sooo sweet... wait!

Islam is a race? How fast did they go, was it a closed track? Any reverse-entry drifts?






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