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Vatican: Bible Confirms Jesus Was Not Crucified

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posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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First, two things. One, this is not my title,, and two, this is the first time I have ever posted in this forum as I tend to stay away from all things religious. For something that is suppose to be so loving it sure seems to cause much turmoil. Something tells me this post in itself will become a fine example of exactly that.

Anyhow, another group I belong too sent this out in a email this morning and just thought Id share it. While I have no clue as to the validity of the website or the claim, if the claim were to turn out to be true, then WOW is all I have to say. Talk about a major shake up around the world...Might actually be more madness in the streets than if aliens had happened to finally show up.

Some snippets from the article:

The Vatican have confirmed that a newly discovered 2,000 year old Bible found in Turkey says that Jesus Christ was not crucified as is commonly believed.



The Bible, which is now being kept in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara, contains the Gospel of Barnabas – one of the forgotten disciples of Christ. The Gospel says the Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the literal son of God – but was actually a Prophet.


Somehow I don't see this next snippet going over well at all considering the state of affairs our world is in at the moment and that barely scratches the surface of what kind of crazy would come about:


According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original.  The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.  The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity.   Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.


This next snippet, well I can just imagine what would happen if they actually let it go to be studied in the bowels of the Vatican. More like never to be seen again and this article would fall under the Mandela effect somehow not to far down the road.


What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers?  Quite a tight spot.  The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the book within the Church.


I wont claim as I believe this or not. Stranger things have surfaced over time showing that history isn't all that we've been taught. I just wanted to bring it to the attention of the members here in case it may be true and maybe the truth might disappear just as quickly as it has shown up.

There is plenty more at the article as well as a picture of the newly found Book, Bible. You can READ IT ALL HERE and decide for yourselves.



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posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: onehuman


here go probably a fake to make money off of. the gospel of barnabas has been known about for many many years.

The Gospel of Barnabas is a book depicting the life of Jesus, which claims to be by the biblical Barnabas who in this work is one of the twelve apostles. Two manuscripts are known to have existed, both dated to the late 16th or early 17th centuries, with one written in Italian and the other in Spanish. The Spanish manuscript is now lost, its text surviving only in a partial 18th-century transcript.[1] Barnabas is about the same length as the four canonical gospels put together, with the bulk being devoted to an account of Jesus' ministry, much of it harmonized from accounts also found in the canonical gospels. In some key respects, it conforms to the Islamic interpretation of Christian origins and contradicts the New Testament teachings of Christianity. The text of this Gospel is considered by the majority of academics, including Christians and some Muslims (such as Abbas el-Akkad),[2] to be late and pseudepigraphical.[3] However, some academics suggest that it may contain some remnants of an earlier, apocryphal work (perhaps Gnostic,[4] Ebionite[5] or Diatessaronic[6]), redacted to bring it more in line with Islamic doctrine. Some Muslims consider the surviving versions as transmitting a suppressed apostolic original. Some Islamic organizations cite it in support of the Islamic view of Jesus. This work should not be confused with the surviving Epistle of Barnabas, nor with the surviving Acts of Barnabas.
Gospel of Barnabas



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: onehuman
The Vatican actually says that the Gospel of Barnabas is a hoax.
La Stampa/ Vatican Insider

But alas, this extraordinary discovery is probably a hoax, the work of a forger who, according to some, could have been a European Jewish scholar from the Middle Ages. The most factual criticisms have come from the Syriacs. Indeed, anyone who speaks modern Assyrian (also known as neo-Aramaic) will find the inscription on the so-called ‘Gospel of Barnabas’ easy to read. However errors are just as easy to make out.


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posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: onehuman
First, two things. One, this is not my title,, and two, this is the first time I have ever posted in this forum as I tend to stay away from all things religious. For something that is suppose to be so loving it sure seems to cause much turmoil. Something tells me this post in itself will become a fine example of exactly that.

Anyhow, another group I belong too sent this out in a email this morning and just thought Id share it. While I have no clue as to the validity of the website or the claim, if the claim were to turn out to be true, then WOW is all I have to say. Talk about a major shake up around the world...Might actually be more madness in the streets than if aliens had happened to finally show up.

Some snippets from the article:

The Vatican have confirmed that a newly discovered 2,000 year old Bible found in Turkey says that Jesus Christ was not crucified as is commonly believed.



The Bible, which is now being kept in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara, contains the Gospel of Barnabas – one of the forgotten disciples of Christ. The Gospel says the Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the literal son of God – but was actually a Prophet.


Somehow I don't see this next snippet going over well at all considering the state of affairs our world is in at the moment and that barely scratches the surface of what kind of crazy would come about:


According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original.  The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.  The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity.   Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.


This next snippet, well I can just imagine what would happen if they actually let it go to be studied in the bowels of the Vatican. More like never to be seen again and this article would fall under the Mandela effect somehow not to far down the road.


What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers?  Quite a tight spot.  The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the book within the Church.


I wont claim as I believe this or not. Stranger things have surfaced over time showing that history isn't all that we've been taught. I just wanted to bring it to the attention of the members here in case it may be true and maybe the truth might disappear just as quickly as it has shown up.

There is plenty more at the article as well as a picture of the newly found Book, Bible. You can READ IT ALL HERE and decide for yourselves.


Found in turkey and examined in turkey and validates Islam's interpretation of Jesus hmmm. Also why would it be a Vatican bible? They were orthodox and also wouldn't they need carbon dating to know the age of the book?

I'm not a religious man but this just seems suspicious and reeks of Islamic validation



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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This stuff has been around for a millennia
What makes it so questionable is that the original letters and gospels were written and told directly after the death of Christ
Imagine if someone today, someone famous, started running around saying he was executed then rose from the dead and no one actually saw it happen
They would be laughed at and ridiculed
No one would follow or even give them any validity, yet Jesus started one of the largest faith followings ever
Barnabas book, nothing new, nothing not already seen and studied
As for gold lettered writing, that is not really of any. Consequence, sounds like it is the exact opposite of what Christ taught people

Written 2000 years ago, that's another silly thing to say
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posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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This is 100% not true. The crucifixion of Jesus is one of the most verified events in history. Even secular ancient documents confirm it.

If such a text was found, which is doubtful in itself, it would not negate the literal thousands of ancient documents from both Christian and non Christian sources that say otherwise.
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posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: onehuman

To be quite frank this is blasphemy not history, there were counter church's, argument's within the church, heretic's and all manner of deniers right from the very start.
And of course there are any number of reason's such a lie would be created after the fact.


When you have been near to death and in a vision rested your head upon the chest of the crucified Christ come and tell me, Oh and he had his beard and hair shorn off, I was suffering extreme inward depression at the time and he told me that this was what it was like to be dead and made me come back so personally I know this book is a total LIE and may god rot the hands and tongues of the evil one's that created it and more those that preserved it.



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

May God bless and love those who don't know who He and His son and Spirit are
Jesus taught His "followers" no anger, no judgement

Remember you will be judged by God with the same measure you judge others



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: onehuman


The Gospel says the Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the literal son of God – but was actually a Prophet.

Just a man, and yes we are all sons of fathers.

The vatican like any other ism spins it up over the millennia into something else.



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:15 AM
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originally posted by: onehuman
First, two things. One, this is not my title,, and two, this is the first time I have ever posted in this forum as I tend to stay away from all things religious. For something that is suppose to be so loving it sure seems to cause much turmoil. Something tells me this post in itself will become a fine example of exactly that.

Anyhow, another group I belong too sent this out in a email this morning and just thought Id share it. While I have no clue as to the validity of the website or the claim, if the claim were to turn out to be true, then WOW is all I have to say. Talk about a major shake up around the world...Might actually be more madness in the streets than if aliens had happened to finally show up.

Some snippets from the article:

The Vatican have confirmed that a newly discovered 2,000 year old Bible found in Turkey says that Jesus Christ was not crucified as is commonly believed.



The Bible, which is now being kept in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara, contains the Gospel of Barnabas – one of the forgotten disciples of Christ. The Gospel says the Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the literal son of God – but was actually a Prophet.


Somehow I don't see this next snippet going over well at all considering the state of affairs our world is in at the moment and that barely scratches the surface of what kind of crazy would come about:


According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original.  The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.  The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity.   Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.


This next snippet, well I can just imagine what would happen if they actually let it go to be studied in the bowels of the Vatican. More like never to be seen again and this article would fall under the Mandela effect somehow not to far down the road.


What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers?  Quite a tight spot.  The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the book within the Church.


I wont claim as I believe this or not. Stranger things have surfaced over time showing that history isn't all that we've been taught. I just wanted to bring it to the attention of the members here in case it may be true and maybe the truth might disappear just as quickly as it has shown up.

There is plenty more at the article as well as a picture of the newly found Book, Bible. You can READ IT ALL HERE and decide for yourselves.


Funny how this book prophecies Muhammad and discredits everything Christians believe and ironically found in a 98% Muslim country.

How Islam explains Jesus is a known conversion tactic to get Christians to convert. "we're cool with jesus" type of attitude you just have to reject his warnings teachings and death.



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:19 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
This stuff has been around for a millennia
What makes it so questionable is that the original letters and gospels were written and told directly after the death of Christ
Imagine if someone today, someone famous, started running around saying he was executed then rose from the dead and no one actually saw it happen
They would be laughed at and ridiculed
No one would follow or even give them any validity, yet Jesus started one of the largest faith followings ever
Barnabas book, nothing new, nothing not already seen and studied
As for gold lettered writing, that is not really of any. Consequence, sounds like it is the exact opposite of what Christ taught people

Written 2000 years ago, that's another silly thing to say


Hang on I'm under the impression that it is well established by academics and religious historians that the earliest Gospel written was Mark and that was 60-90 years after Christs death and the others possibly over 100 years. It's a bit like me trying to write a book about the start of WW1



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: redchad

Socrates said that the printing press and writing would make humanity dumb because they wouldn't have to remember history anymore
Your point is reasonably valid but in the ancient and near meddle east, oral history was in fact the way history was passed on

It's simple to say things were very different back before main stream media and tv and the Internet, it's true



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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There has been at least one thread on this on ATS which appeared about 1.5 years ago or something, and it was mentioned in various news outlets online, here in the UK.

Then all of a sudden no more was said since the discovery. We haven't heard about this so called 'book', since it was announced.

Why doesn't anyone, or a party of scholars and historians go over there with their carbon dating machine and get us some more answers!



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
a reply to: onehuman

There has been at least one thread on this on ATS which appeared about 1.5 years ago or something, and it was mentioned in various news outlets online, here in the UK.

Then all of a sudden no more was said since the discovery. We haven't heard about this so called 'book', since it was announced.

Why doesn't anyone, or a party of scholars and historians go over there with their carbon dating machine and get us some more answers!


Because all you have to do is throw out the bait and Muslims and liberals start nodding their head in agreement.



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: onehuman

The Apocalypse of St John predicted this 2000 years ago - that men would deny that Jesus was crucified for the sins of man.

and now here we are, 2000 years later - denying he was crucified (The Koran, among other historical texts, also refutes he died on the cross).

If I was a bookie, these would be very very slim odds.

VERY.



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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Because nobody cares about a book that stands on its own, historically it has no value to anyone but Muslims and Gnostics.

It would be like finding a book saying Germany won WW1 and 2, no one would waste time on it, it's just not history
Muslims and Gnostics are a different matter
Akragon might have a lot of info on this from his non gnostic but non mainstream Christian perspective, hit him up. I am sure he will know heaps about it



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:38 AM
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Nothing new here. These kinds of documents have been popping up for the last 2,000 years. Just because somebody wrote it does not make it so.

E.g., I keep reading that Bruce Jenner is now a woman, but he still has XY chromosomes, so there.



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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I agree but I can remember being told about the war by my grandad and uncles who were there. No TVs or internet I sat many times listening to war stories I've even told my kids about there great grandad escapades, but for me to sit down now and write a book about it no way I could do it sure but you know what it wouldn't be accurate and a lot of guess work. When discussing bible writings you need to take this into account, just because it says so doesn't mean so



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: redchad
a reply to: Raggedyman
I agree but I can remember being told about the war by my grandad and uncles who were there. No TVs or internet I sat many times listening to war stories I've even told my kids about there great grandad escapades, but for me to sit down now and write a book about it no way I could do it sure but you know what it wouldn't be accurate and a lot of guess work. When discussing bible writings you need to take this into account, just because it says so doesn't mean so


I am not disagreeing with you
I am not one of those Christians who thinks the bible is the perfect preserved word of God, even the bible doesn't say that about itself
I think it contains flaws, hence why there are 4 gospels
Jesus is perfect, the Son of the Father, God in flesh

Irrespective, there were many oral accounts circulated throughout Israel, eyewitness accounts would have verified what was written.

Just weren't printing presses and writing was not common.
It's how history was transferred back when.



posted on Jun, 27 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: VegHead
This is 100% not true. The crucifixion of Jesus is one of the most verified events in history. Even secular ancient documents confirm it.

Um... No it isn't. We can't even prove if Jesus existed let alone was crucified by the Roman government.



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