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Be careful. Trump might be starting a war in Syria. Bigly.

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posted on Jul, 3 2017 @ 04:46 AM

posted on Jul, 3 2017 @ 05:58 AM
a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

With the USA aircraft carrier in Haifa Israel right now maybe that is a deterrant to Hezbollah from launcing missiles in n Israel in the event of escaltions. Israel daily is sending warnings to Damascus and Hezbollah not to test IDF as rockets landing everyday in Golan. Just imagine some Hezbollah missiles hitting Haifi (they reah there from Lebanon) and hitting US CSG Ford. If Israel gos in any day now to sort out Hezbollah in Lebanese villages then a retalitory missile strike hitting Ford in Haifa harbour.........................Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo then it's game on

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posted on Jul, 3 2017 @ 12:49 PM
The situation in Syria is guaranteed to escalate and there is nothing any President could do to stop that.

Too many proxies in one small area with major differences.

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 12:19 AM
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

There has been way more missiles launched against Syria and Gaza by Israel than rocks thrown by Palestinians since the begining of this year ...


‘Chemical show’: Moscow slams latest claim of toxic gas use in Syria

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posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 04:53 AM
a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

True. The enemies of Israel are far too busy killing each other to be bothered about bringing on an invasion of their territiry by the IDF and massive casualtties. Can you imagine being a Hezbollah commander on the northern border. It must be so nervy up there. It only takes one schizophrenic Hezbollah operative who fires a salvo of Scuds ast Haifa....................... Then the mother of all invasions taking out the whole of southern Lebanon and Hezbollah back to square one. They must have to keep such a tight reign on their forces.

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 05:06 AM
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

And what kind of schizopheny is at work in Israel at the moment :

Israel Attacks Syrian Positions, Protects Al-Nusra Terror Hordes in the Occupied Golan

Syrian Rebels: We Want Peace With Israel, Real Enemy Is Iran

Indeed, te real 'enemy' is Iran. But that's not new and it is a policy that has been inherited rather pushed by Trump :

What is carefully forgotten about atm is the 38 billions $ military aid package. I guess if you put the 'Iran deal' in the balance it would make the double standards towards the rogue nuclearc state of Israel too obvious.

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 05:56 AM
a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

It is all about Iran. The official Israeli policy towards Syria is 'let them bleed' and what a success it has been in deflecting Syria from being any sort of threat to Israel and weaking Iran by weakening Assad its bulwark against the terror coming to Tehran. Slowly Syria has murdered itself. Unfortunately that policy looks like coming undone with the Assad regime surviving so where do Israel go next? For some bizarre reason I really can't see Israel/USA accepting Iranian military on Israel's borders, an Israeli sponsored mimi state around the Golan is the minimum one can expect.

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 06:44 AM
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Israel will have to get directly involved if its proxy war fails.
And it is already taking shape as they more and more often violate the sovereignty of Syria in order to carry action against those fighting their proxies.

An Eyewitness to the Syrian Rebellion: Father Frans in His Own Words

An examination of texts published by Father Frans van der Lugt in 2011 and 2012 shows that the late Dutch Jesuit priest had a dim view of the Syrian rebellion, which he held to be the work of a violent minority, and favored a process of political reform in Syria to be implemented by the current government under President Bashar Al-Assad.

Father Frans was murdered under still unclarified circumstances in the embattled Syrian city of Homs earlier this month.(April 2014)


From the start, the protest movements were not purely peaceful. From the start I saw armed demonstrators marching along in the protests, who began to shoot at the police first. Very often the violence of the security forces has been a reaction to the brutal violence of the armed rebels.


Moreover, from the start there has been the problem of the armed groups, which are also part of the opposition….The opposition of the street is much stronger than any other opposition. And this opposition is armed and frequently employs brutality and violence, only in order then to blame the government. Many representatives of the government (regeringsmensen – Father Frans might also be referring to supporters of the government) have been tortured and shot dead by them.


In the first place, it has to be said that it is very difficult to provide a nuanced and objective account of what is happening. Many journalists fall into describing matters in black and white. For them, good and evil are not interwoven, but are clearly separated. They demonize the one side and glorify the other. Thus, for example, it is not true that our (the Syrian) government has only bad sides and the opposition only good ones. But because the US, Europe and certain Arab countries support the opposition, they endeavor, whether consciously or unconsciously, to idealize it as much as possible, without engaging in any careful analysis of the real situation. Certain interests are obscuring our view of the real situation and contaminating the description of it.

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 06:56 AM

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Israel will have to get directly involved if its proxy war fails.

The rest of the Golan will be needed in order to guarantee safety. Only 2/3 is currently annexed by Israel, the other 1/3 is still under Syrian control. That final one third will be needed if Israel is to guarantee its security and survival. There can be no other way than moving IDF further into Syria if Jerusalem is to avoid Iranians on their borders

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 07:07 AM
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Golan is only needed to fulfil Israel dream of Eretz Israel and the ideal of zionism.
The securityt issue Israel so often seems to worry about is nothing but the consequence of their own policies.

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
-- Moshe Dayan, April 1969, Ha'aretz; quoted in Edward Said, 'Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims', Social Text, Volume 1, 1979, 7-58.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."
-- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"
-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

"(The Palestinians) are beasts walking on two legs."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever."
-- Menachem Begin, the day after the U.N. vote to partition Palestine.

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
-- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
-- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

"I would have joined a terrorist organization."
-- Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 07:18 AM
If Trump is laying the groundwork for a war with just Syria... he is going about it all wrong....

the challenge has been voiced to the world already.... Trump Administration has accused Russia & Syria of Conspiring to attack the Syrian civilians along with any Kurds or Iraqi troops amidst the jihadist fighters, with deadly chemical &/or gas munitions

by tying Russia directly to Sarin Gas attacks in Syria, Trump is escalating the situation unnecessarily...
is this attempted strategy a counter-bluff tactic against the masterful Putin or-what ?!

the South China Sea intrusions, the NoKorea crisis, the heavy hand in Syria... all going off at once...
the depleated military forces from the Obama reign-of-pain is hardly the time to further extend a Projection-of-Force...

especially when the USAs prime contender has a secret and decidedly effective deterrent... the Khibiny Device

Khibiny -

The Khibiny jamming system was tested successfully for ... The Russian Air Force plans call for the installation of the Khibiny jammer on all its advanced jets

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 11:31 AM
a reply to: ufoorbhunter
There is zero question of safety along the Syrian Golan border. The Israelis are not only at peace with Al-Q and ISIS, bu their equipment is constantly being found in newly abandoned rebel positions.
If Israel can be at peace with ISIS, why are they so hostile to everyone else?? Same with Al-Q/Nusra??? Strange indeed, but there is clearly no conspiracy there.

posted on Jul, 4 2017 @ 12:22 PM
a reply to: worldstarcountry

Not the way things are rolling over there. There is a possibility that Iran will border up to Israeli Golan any time now. The way they've been on the offnsive along with Russia and Damascus and Iraqi forces this is only a matter of time.

posted on Jul, 6 2017 @ 12:38 PM
US' fly zone proposal in Syria is illegitimate after the various strikes that took place during the past 2 months. Any US significant action will be retaliated against US bases abroad (or even at home)

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