Low income people should not have insurance. They should be treated for free.

originally posted by: Blender5L
I dunno about this. Everyone should pay for their own. It's not like there's a lack of work or anything.

Wait? Where are you living?

In my city there's a VERY limited number of jobs and more applicants than jobs available.

a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

You must live in the worst part then.

a reply to: Blender5L

What does pay your own way mean?

originally posted by: Blender5L
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

You must live in the worst part then.

Possibly but can't be worse than fl.

a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

Few places are worse than Florida, besides maybe the east side of Chicago.

originally posted by: windword

Nobody! It's FREE! Poor people should just be able to walk into a doctor, or clinic, or hospital and get treated for whatever without any paperwork, like they were never there. No billable hours, drugs disappear due to "breakage", nurses and doctors just sneak them in between paying/covered patients....no one is the wiser!

TADA! FREE HEALTH CARE!

How much healthcare could be provided at clinics that you pay 30 bucks out of pocket? Took my son to a pay as you go clinic for pink eye and I was in and out in 20 mins paid like 20 to 30 bucks and on our way to get the med. It was staffed by reg nurses with doctor on call.

The only way to solve this problem for poor people is to develop a healthcare system outside the insurance umbrella with only catastrophic insurance needed. Nothing is free, but we sure can make if affordable, and for the very poor further support can be provided by the Government since we are talking much smaller numbers.

originally posted by: Blender5L
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw

Few places are worse than Florida, besides maybe the east side of Chicago.

New York comes to mind...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: windword

Nobody! It's FREE! Poor people should just be able to walk into a doctor, or clinic, or hospital and get treated for whatever without any paperwork, like they were never there. No billable hours, drugs disappear due to "breakage", nurses and doctors just sneak them in between paying/covered patients....no one is the wiser!

TADA! FREE HEALTH CARE!

How much healthcare could be provided at clinics that you pay 30 bucks out of pocket? Took my son to a pay as you go clinic for pink eye and I was in and out in 20 mins paid like 20 to 30 bucks and on our way to get the med. It was staffed by reg nurses with doctor on call.

The only way to solve this problem for poor people is to develop a healthcare system outside the insurance umbrella with only catastrophic insurance needed. Nothing is free, but we sure can make if affordable, and for the very poor further support can be provided by the Government since we are talking much smaller numbers.

I don't think they handle big things like broken bones or xrays. I think it's all just minor things... things that are easy prescriptions and consultation.

I take it the author has never worked in healthcare... SMH.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Catastrophic plans are over $750+a month for a family of 4 in premiums-with super high deductibles, copays, and network schemes.

Nice thought though.

a reply to: allsee4eye

What do you think Obamacare is?,and look how well that worked out,you socialist's think money comes from nowhere,never had a job,no incentive to better yourself,so what happens when everyone else decides"I'm not working either!" then what,even a wild animal learns to fend for himself,or he becomes prey,take care of yourself,don't rely on people they may not be there

a reply to: Oldtimer2

What does take care of yourself mean?

originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw

I don't think they handle big things like broken bones or xrays. I think it's all just minor things... things that are easy prescriptions and consultation.

Of course, which is about 90% of healthcare...

originally posted by: Blender5L
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw
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Few places are worse than Florida, besides maybe the east side of Chicago.

I'm in Florida and it sucks!!! Sucks bad.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Xtrozero

Catastrophic plans are over $750+a month for a family of 4 in premiums-with super high deductibles, copays, and network schemes.

Nice thought though.

You are looking at what we have today, not what can be accomplish. ACA should be catastrophic only with clinics doing the rest...much cheaper. Also since 70% of workers get their insurance though their work the pool of people needing this that are outside of medicare is much smaller.

a reply to: Xtrozero

That is in an ideal world.

This is about money, and nothing else. Who is going to take less money? The Dr? the Insurance co? The pharma co? or the average citizen (getting boned on medical expenses)?


Odd how the media never mentions how much we (US) spend and the terrible service and health outcomes. Wonder why?

a reply to: mblahnikluver

I don't doubt it

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Xtrozero

That is in an ideal world.

This is about money, and nothing else. Who is going to take less money? The Dr? the Insurance co? The pharma co? or the average citizen (getting boned on medical expenses)?


Odd how the media never mentions how much we (US) spend and the terrible service and health outcomes. Wonder why?

Once outside of the insurance umbrella things are much cheaper. Clinics run by reg nurses could make more money than being a hospital nurse. People walking in and paying 30 bucks is not a make or break deal. 70 people a day would be about 2000 per day or 60,000 dollars per month...I think that could run a 24/7 clinic with that and 4 nurses making 100k per year each. I also have no issues with the State subsidizing either with tax breaks, building cost etc.

Health care should be charged in proportion to income.

Appendectomy should be $1,000 for someone who makes $100,000 per year, or $100 for someone who makes $10,000 per year.

a reply to: Oldtimer2

Obamacare was not socialized medicine. Socialized medicine is what they have in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Australia, the Scandinavian nations, and the rest of the civilized world, and it works just fine.

Obamacare was CORPORATIZED health care, where people were forced to bow not only to the government, but also to greedy insurance companies.

Republicans fear big gov't. Democrats fear big corporations. But what we should all fear is when big gov't and big business work together to enslave the common man. That is what's happening now in the US.