Nobel-winning economists come out against Senate healthcare bill

a reply to: olaru12

Neither party can come up with anything worth passing.

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: watchitburn

Obamacare is giving us "reduced coverage and higher costs" already.

So now the excuse is Obamacare is already bad, so who cares if this bill may be worse or just as bad.

Even some of the avid supporters of this bill can't seem to deny how terrible it is.

No, I'm saying any healthcare Bill passed by either party is going to be written and rubber stamped by the insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

No matter what we get it's going to suck, so be prepared to drop your pants, because your going to feel some pressure.

Allowing people the freedom to choose what to do with their own hard earned money is now considered "driving relatively healthy people from the market?" LMAO... looks like they should start handing out Nobel awards in the field of propaganda and bullsnip.

a reply to: olaru12

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Very true

a reply to: Southern Guardian

I'm curious what these same 6 scholars had to say about the ACA/Obamacare bill?

Forget that, why don't these 6 Nobel scholars tell us how to fix Obamacare ?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Wrong. No one supporting the new health care bill thinks it is "good" in the capacity in which you are referring. However, everyone...and I mean everyone KNOWS it is much better than Obama Care.

Healthcare has always been a core platform for any and every presidential candidate because it has perpetually been f'd up. We tried the socialized medicine and the market and the insurers and the people have spoken. It sucks and it doesn't work.

Move over "Affordable" Health Care Act. You're getting jacked at the stop light.

REMEMBER: Nobel Awards go to intellectuals...

I'm just HERE to watch Nobel Prize winners get slandered...

originally posted by: manuelram16
Forget that, why don't these 6 Nobel scholars tell us how to fix Obamacare ?

Why didn't they come out against Obamacare before it was passed and fix it then?

I wonder what these ecomonmists said about Obama care bc this is basically the same.

originally posted by: Outlier13
a reply to: Southern Guardian

The fact they are NPP recipients means nothing. I mean come on...they gave one to Obama. Seriously...they GAVE a Nobel Peace Prize to Barrack Obama one year into his presidency.

If that doesn't tell you the Nobel Peace Prize is purely political then I don't know what does.

Yes, very much a tarnished brand. They'll never recover.

Nobel economic prize? Is this like how Obama got his Nobel peace prize for doing nothing?

originally posted by: Outlier13
a reply to: Southern Guardian

No one supporting the new health care bill thinks it is "good" in the capacity in which you are referring.

So you admit it's bad?

We tried the socialized medicine and the market and the insurers and the people have spoken.

Popular socialist programs like medicare and medicaid? The programs Reagan himself promised to preserve? We've also never tried a full fledged socialized healthcare system. It hasn't been implemented.

It sucks and it doesn't work.

Seems to work fine for the rest of the world. You pay an arm and a leg for healthcare in the US and next to nothing in England. But "it doesn't work" as you say? Dig your head in the sand and praise privatization?

a reply to: Outlier13

However, everyone...and I mean everyone KNOWS it is much better than Obama Care.

.....except for....

Close to 80% of people polled
time.com...

The CBO
The AMA
Economists
AARP
ACS
AHA & FAH (American Hospital Association & Federation of American Hospitals)
National Disability Rights Network

It goes on. It seriously goes on.

But everyone you say. We all know it's better.

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
6 of them apparently. When Nobel winning economists come out against your bill then you should get the hint:

A group of economists that includes six Nobel Prize winners is expressing opposition to Senate Republicans' legislation to replace ObamaCare, arguing that it "threatens reduced coverage and higher costs for those who continue to have it."

In a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), the economists wrote that "the Senate bill would narrow coverage, and by driving relatively healthy people from the market, raise premiums for those who remain."

thehill.com...

Last month we had the CBO warned us that the GOP's original healthcare bill would leave 23 million uninsured. They've revised this to 22 million for the senate bill. The majority GOP held congress can't seem to muster enough support for the previous bill or this senate healthcare bill. They had to revise it again. it doesn't help either that the American Medical Association has come out opposing the legislation:
www.cnbc.com...

Nobody can seem to explain or justify this replacement law. It just sounds as though those who support it support it on the basis of Trumps support and getting rid of Obamacare. It's a mess.

Funny, where were they when Gruber royally screwed us with the ACA? Oh wait....they are his contemporaries and were likely consultants along with him on it.

a reply to: FamCore

The aca provided coverage for millions of Americans by taking from the rich and giving to the poor. The ahca wants to take that coverage back from The poor and give tax breaks to The rich. It is a yuuggee difference in policies.

The only reason premiums went up in the aca is because many Republican states refused Medicaid expansion and Republicans in Congress were constantly blocking funding that was meant to help keep premiums low.

We have nobody to blame but republicans for destroying what should have been a great bill.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Haha. Really? You sound like the all knowing Phage now. When you can't formulate a legitimate argument ask really stupid questions. It's the liberal way.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Polls?!?!?!?!

How did those polls work out for you in the run up to the election? I still have a screen shot from the NYT with a poll saying Hillary Clinton was favored by 95% to become president.

Polls? Really?

You must be one of the lazy people I am paying for with my overpriced healthcare costs.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Economist, I think that's short for 'person with no experience who claims to have valid economic solutions.'

Also, the nobel prize is a joke. It's just a popularity contest.

They handed Obama a peace prize before he even accomplished anything. And 7 years later the world, particularly the Middle East, is as unstable as it has ever been.