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Jeremy Corbyn at Glastonbury

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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 04:39 AM
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a reply to: Britguy

Moaning about the loss?

Lmao.

The tories lost their majority and Corbyn was all breasts and gnashers after the election, more than ready for round 2.

He also invigorated a lot of people to be involved in politics, so no. No moaning at all, in fact it's the opposite, action is being sought.

The social media didn't drive me to be disgusted by our arming of other nations, nor did Facebook tell me to seek the protection of individual rights and the right to privacy from nosey governments. In fact, Facebook as an entity would be rather foolish to wish awareness to be raised about fair taxation.

I fail to remember where I read the disparity in regards to inflation and pay rises but it certainly wasn't twitter or the rags that are considered "news" heck you couldn't use them to wipe your backside if you ran out of toilet roll, you'd end up dirtier.

Considering I don't use social media much (ATS is my usual go to) it was hardly any of those platforms that showed me how crap the social "safety net" that's controlled by DwP. In the last 10 years I've seen basic foodstuffs near double in price, the poor ending up piss poor and the £ become a weak ass currency. I've experienced these things and seen them for myself.

Pfft, I've seen meeting the deficit being pushed back year after year by a government lending more than any in the past, where the hell is this money being spent? Because it ain't on reinvestment on the nation... Unless you count the "Northern" powerhouse and a rail connection to Manchester... # Manchester! Hahahaha I guess North of the Humber is Scotland these days or something huh?

Nah, I'm not seeing much whining, the whining and delusion came from the right leaning people of my age who bought the rich man's propaganda over the last few months such as Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser or he'd keep us in the EU, destroy the country etc etc.

The irony that the Tories are getting into bed with the other side of the political groups in regards of N Irish politics isn't lost on me. I'm not calling the DUP terrorist sympathisers nor Sinn Féin but Corbyn definitely is... All that work in helping convince them to stop killing and seek peace via political means is totally evil. Must be, Ireland is at peace and unified via economical progress, it's absolutely disgusting.

Oh yeah... I've never took a selfie in my life.




posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 04:40 AM
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a reply to: Britguy

But your idea of him is a "Spin"

Why do the MSM hate him soooo much?

Why does his own PLP and all the Blairites hate him so much?

Is it because he is anti establishment or pro?


So what life experience do you think you have that makes you superior to the younger mind?

Do you think 18 is too young to vote because they are not as experienced as you?

I believe it's our children's birth right to have a roof, education and good health from birth!...Don't you?

I have a 30yr old and 25yr old as well as 4 grand children, I have a right to try to protect their futures!

What do you know that I don't about Corbyn...please?...If you know something bad then please share!

The problem I have with you old indoctrinated people saying the youth know nothing and shouldn't really be voting is exactly that...They are not indoctrinated like you!







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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 04:49 AM
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originally posted by: DrBobH
Nice to see Jezza making an appearance at Glastonbury today and preaching his peace and love schtick to a load of stoned kids.

www.bbc.co.uk...

It brings a lovely vomit inducing memory of Tony Bliar with his Oasis buddies and keepie uppies in the park.

What a lovely boost to his ego it must have been strolling on stage to a crowd he'd bribed during the election with the promise of free Uni places and cleared debts. Good old Jezza and his magic money tree that has its roots in the wallets of the workers and drops its swollen fruit to the shirkers.

Nothing is free in this life, you have to pay in some way at some time unless you live in Jezza's socialist fantasy world.

How does he plan to pay for his grand ideas. Simple. Tax. But the lefties love him, the great hope.




Less than 20 years ago all education in the UK was free, grants were even given to cover costs. Student debt did not exist.

But today that same concept is an impossible dream, considered possible only by fantasists? Yeah, ok.








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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 04:52 AM
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a reply to: Britguy

I don't want anything on a plate, in fact give it to me so I can eat in on the move whilst I go work my zero-hour contract. Don't have time for the formality of eating a meal on a plate at a table.

Whilst you're at it you can tell me why I can make a company £1000's a week and still not take home double pay when working national holidays, why the hell I've had to pay for my own PPE time and time again and have on multiple occasions worked illegal shifts... Ya know, like 14 hours on 5 hours off then rinse and repeat... Something to do with zero hour contracts and considering I'm lucky to have even worked?

I'm not sure, I know I'm not bitter though and as mentioned in a previous post I hardly do social media, I want change and I'm willing to work towards it, I consider myself perceptive and I'm seeing people spend what they hardly have, a lot of it spent on deluding ourselves from the reality we live in via binge drinking and other damaging activities.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: Motorhead

We have £2 a hour apprenticeships... That many fail to finish, since many see themselves doing the exact amount of graft (if not more) that their colleagues do and take home less than 1/3 of their pay.

Would you work 30-40 hour a week job plus doing education for a measly 80-100 pounds? I did, but not for long... I opted for the minimum wage option with little prospects other than a wage and a bit experience, I know many others did too.

To add:

When I went to college to educate myself on a career that is still laying off people I got £30 a week, a bit of a lifeline that was spent on bait and travel expenses, kids don't even get that now either. Many of my fellow students couldn't afford to eat every day back then so I'd hate to see the state of things at college now. Working at McDonald's is a very attractive short-term prospect for the youth wanting cash for the weekends, not all parents can afford to bankroll their kids habits once they leave education.
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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 05:01 AM
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a reply to: RAY1990

Did state education fail to furnish you with sufficient qualifications to land decent and well paying employment?



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 05:14 AM
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a reply to: CulturalResilience

Actually your gonna love this


I screwed it up, via personal problems. I managed 2 and a half years before I finally broke down. Eventually I paid to retake the advanced course I all but finished. I only had tests to finish, compassionate teachers gave me the option to come back once the noggin was sorted but I left it too late.

Fella, it's took years of trying for many people I know to land a job in their chosen field, many had to be re-educated on the job. Some got lucky, others started their own business via loans from family members.

Experience is key, things may have changed but many of the courses I saw only had limited places for on the job learning, 1/10 of the class.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 05:20 AM
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originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: RAY1990

Did state education fail to furnish you with sufficient qualifications to land decent and well paying employment?


State school certainly failed me with my education...I left aged 15 with dyslexia( I still suffer with it but nowhere near as bad ) and no qualifications but I needed to start work to pay my way in life, thatcher messed up my world real bad, my step dad(my only parent) had to raise 2 of us on a really poor salary as a forklift truck driver, I had jam sandwiches for lunch at school as he had very little money left after rent and rates to buy decent food, we did qualify for free lunches eventually which was great, I ate a hot meal instead of Jam or Ox tongue sarnies, anyway, I left home at 16 (fully employed £45 pr wk 70hours) because of strains and stress in a house under a thatcher government
I had to fight and struggle for many years trying to raise children in a world designed to keep me down make me suffer and break my soul...Through hard work, tough mental strength and some luck I broke the system...but I was suicidal and nearly messed up big time...No youth...and I mean NO youth should have to go through what I did, some wouldn't make it!

32 years later I'm here in the 5% that will be taxed more under a Corbyn government...And I welcome it!
I'm willing to pay a bit more to make sure no one goes through the hardships and pain I did...It's not necessary, It's about time we start to really invest in the young, lookafter our old and vulnerable and stop rewarding billionaires !!!!



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 05:52 AM
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a reply to: RAY1990

So the answer to the question of whether not state education failed you, would be resounding yes. You have my sympathy. I am among the many that state education stifled. I didn't discover how much I loved learning until after I left school.

When I was at school teachers were either evil radical feminists or effeminate or poncey exuses for males. Any boy who showed any signs of nascent masculinity was singled out for special treatment. I was able to overcome my learning difficulty in the armed forces. I am sorry that you have had to struggle.
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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: zerozero00

I don't disagree with what you believe. I just don't consider the likes of Corbyn and Abbot have what it takes to deliver it.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 05:56 AM
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a reply to: zerozero00

That's unfortunate and I'm glad you worked your way out, in relation things are not as bad but that certainly doesn't mean things are good either.

I spoke with many of my elders over the years, pit workers and shipyards too. A theme was you could finish school and land a well paid apprenticeship the next day in the 50's-60's sick of working for a company then you could walk out and work down the road the very same day.

I also remember the early 90's when walkers didn't own all the crisp factories and all the soda bottling factories weren't ran by multinational corporations. Money just filtered through the system more, jobs were more local and everything wasn't streamlined for profit. It makes fiscal sense to run huge factories supplying the nation but at the same time it destroys local business, has more impact in terms of waste and transport, we lose local produce and products.

Having ran stock in a bar before I got to notice how pretty much everything is produced by 2 mega corporations, I won't mention them but let's just say one is light and the other is gobbledygook if you double it.

It's another aspect of change many have failed to notice, microbreweries are doing good, many pubs, clubs and bars try to source locally too but more of that's down to image and cost effectiveness rather than the fact that we have many independent breweries.

So yeah, I fully agree with you, we need to stop rewarding billionaires. I barely touched on the socio-economic hardships of the individual these days or days gone, I could be here all day on that topic.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: CulturalResilience

Thanks for the kind words.

I hated school, I dropped out in year 10 but was lucky enough to be invited back for my GCSEs, I had a decent teacher and GF at the time who fought for me to get something out of a big old waste of time.

I too love learning, I thoroughly enjoyed college for the most part apart from the slow learning progress, again I had some decent teachers who put me through the highest mathematics and literature courses they had in my first year
they didn't want to waste my time over 3 years on learning for tests I could've passed tomorrow.

I don't want to talk too much about education but I will say that a lot of it is wasted time in relation to capable and bright youth, it's discouraging and has many throw away some of their most productive years of their lives, so much wasted potential man, it genuinely breaks my heart seeing the youth fall to the wayside as they do.

Again thanks for the kind words, I was gonna join the military at 19, a damn hernia knocked back that ambition till a year after my operation... I really wish I tried again because I know our armed forces appreciate members who wish to learn, they'll always invest in those that have a thirst for knowledge. A few people I went to school with who'd I'd consider not that bright are well educated and qualified due to the armed forces, those that last always do well. Just one of the many reasons I have high respect for our forces.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: RAY1990

You're welcome.

I, and many others noticed that, yesterday when Corbyn was blatantly touting for votes at Glastonbury, other party leaders were out supporting the military on Armed Forces Day. Worse still a misleading picture from 2016 was published in an attempt to imply Corbyn' s participation in the event. Disgusting!

Best wishes.
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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 06:22 AM
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originally posted by: audubon
The money is out there to improve our society, it's just not being collected - because the Tories believe that efficient taxation discourages business.


Is there evidence that the Tories think tax avoidance is good, because that's what you are saying, and there is no evidence that is the case.

It was under Labour's watch that the EU consolidated taxation powers to the huge advantage of Luxembourg and Ireland. The problem is globalism and that cannot be addressed when the EU's unelected contrive to treat country tax as unimportant.

I was young once. Now I work I am more concerned what happen to my earnings and tax. The Labour Party has a tradition in economic mismanagement, but the young don't see that. They just see a man making promises that the streets will be paved with gold, if only they vote for him.
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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 06:43 AM
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The armed forces day was only bought in 10 years ago, hardly anybody even knew what is was, even the forces refused to send contingents to places that had things on. Seems like an attempt to copy the states.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: zerozero00

I don't disagree with what you believe. I just don't consider the likes of Corbyn and Abbot have what it takes to deliver it.

Why don't you?
What has Corbyn done to YOU that you cant trust him to deliver his manifesto?

Why not give it a go?

Do you really think we are better under the current status quo?

Wouldn't you think it worth while a go after all the "Austerity" under the Tories and New Labour?

If you fancy change at all, what type of change would you be looking for?

I'm really interested in your opinions as I'd like to understand the myth of him being bad!
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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 06:53 AM
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Funny how the tories keep saying there is no magic money tree.

When they've been pulling money out of the magic money tree to give to bankers and the elites for the last 8 or 9 years.

When they're about to pull 2 billion out of the magic money tree to give to the DUP terrorists to prop up their regime.

No magic money tree for the poor, but a great big magic money tree for the rich.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 07:09 AM
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When they're about to pull 2 billion out of the magic money tree to give to the DUP terrorists to prop up their regime.
No magic money tree for the poor, but a great big magic money tree for the rich.



And if the DUP get more Wales will want more , England should get more and Scotland will demand more.
It seems a high price to pay to hold on to a lame duck PM for a few months.



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 08:25 AM
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As to what I think of the status quo, you need only refer to the opening line of the first comment of mine that you replied to.

The reply I gave to Ray indicates something I don't like about him. He was also involved with the law firm that swindled £10 Million from the tax payer by making false accusations against UK Soldiers.

His policy of terrorist appeasement is another example of why I dislike him.

The fact that despite all this and more, Corbyn is one of the more moral politicians is a very sad reflection on Westminster sh!t shower.

There is no force in heaven or earth that would compell me to vote for a party that includes that failed abortion Abbot among its ranks, let alone allow it anywhere near it's front benches.
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posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: CulturalResilience

So, if you wont have a Corbyn government then what do you want?

Are you happy under Tory rule, in bed with a terrorist associated group DUP?


So many people like you who wont have Corbyn as PM have no real alternative...unless you do?


"I don't like that Corbyn bloke, he wont bow to the queen(neither would I), he sympathises with the oppressed, he's against Trident(so am I), He wears leather on the elbows of his jacket, he has an unkempt beard from time to time, he gets public transport or rides his bicycle to work, he likes gardening, he hates capitalist corruption...FFS the guys a menace and should not get near power, thanks to the likes of you guys he probably wont...you're only helping the "Status Quo" by the way!



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