Questions about a rogue planet

a reply to: underwerks
Binary Star of SOL or Advanced Star craft maybe using cloak via blocking the visual frequency of human observation equipments.
Not sure inhabitants of celestial object would call it Nibiru...

Both could be inhabited-

originally posted by: watchitburn

Or maybe a super intelligent shade of the color blue?

As a representative of the Hoovooloo consulate here in Evesham, England, I must express my dismay at this obvious colourist attitude. If you want to blame anyone, blame the Doofooboos, whom, you will know, are a somewhat less intelligent shade of the colour red and totally untrustworthy.

Although personally, I blame the Toogoowoos. Yellow never was my colour ....

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: underwerks

We rise above the plane then sink below--like a sine wave.

Why? I have no idea. I have a strong suspicion that we (solar system) were part of another, smaller galaxy that merged with the Milky Way. That would explain a couple things like the sinusoidal movement and why the Milky Way looks perpendicular to the solar system plane at times. But that is my best guest as I am not a astrophysicist.

It's amazing to me that the motion of our galaxy resembles a sine wave in relation to the galactic plane. I look at sine waves every day.

Maybe everything is one big vibration, and when it winds down the next note is hit.

a reply to: underwerks

Suddenly the "simplistic" notion of the "music of the spheres" doesn't seem so outlandish!

Check my post out in Space Exploration about sound and frequency and orbits: NASA has discovered 7 Earth-like planets orbiting a star.

Cool jazz!

a reply to: watchitburn

exact my words
f#ck doomporn!

a reply to: underwerks



interesting conjecture there...but ....


our solar system and our whole local group of Stars have been swamped by a molecular cloud of stuff/particles/energies
which is affecting the Solar systems planets -- All of them are have the temperature rising ~~

but the present, random, molecular cloud is not that fictional Photon Belt that was woo-woo & popularized back in the lead-up to 2012 end-of-world & doom-porn predictions


the only outside source of calamity we can generally agree exists on a physical level is comet/asteroid/bolide encounters in our atmosphere or striking the Earth Surface in Earth shaping craters & associated damages


EQs, plate tectonics, even Climate Warming are not positively caused by cosmic forces....
but epidemics are associated with passing comets


I submit that our current global warming is because of Planet-Earth out-gassing the trapped green-house gasses that causes even more out-gassing... whether humans are numbering 7 million or not the Climate Variations would still be happening...because it's a natural cycle going on as it has before- many times in the last 4 billion years of earth existence



As far as a Rogue Planet... ejected from a previous existing solar system.... the only process that seems to provide for that to happen is when a planet (like our Pluto)--- is far enough from the Sun --- that when that Sun goes Nova & explodes...
the Pluto Planet gets freed from orbiting that exploded Star and just wanders through inter-stellar space but stays within the same Galaxy, possibly light years distance from the solar system it once was a planet of, Like
Pluto gone rogue/lone-wolf/Diablo



see ya around the forums





hey there 'TEOTWAWKIAIFF '....

your correct... our solar system is positioned like a dime sitting on its edge, and the dimes edge is facing the Galactic Center...

When we look 'up' in relation to our Galactic orbit... we are looking into the Space that our orbit took us through the days/weeks/years before the present... That's the reason why the Milky Way plane of denser star groupings appears as a diagonal wall of light that goes generally from horizon to directly overhead instead of being a dense bar-of-light that circles our 360 panoramic view of the night sky

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: underwerks

Suddenly the "simplistic" notion of the "music of the spheres" doesn't seem so outlandish!

Check my post out in Space Exploration about sound and frequency and orbits: NASA has discovered 7 Earth-like planets orbiting a star.

Cool jazz!

Wow. Thanks for that link, that is amazing.

As above, so below.

a reply to: AndyMayhew. It's the pesky green ones that piss me off all the time....but since everything is molecular, it has moving parts, these parts have a frequency, a CPS. Cycles per second, can also measure cycles per millisecond, this range can be from one extreme to the other in space, and some frequencies can do amazing things....in theory it has no limits. Now think of hurling through space and encounter some of these extremes. Extreme visual light, non visible light, sound vibration frequency, on and on...and some could be catastrophic in the right conditions.....therefore....doom porn!!!

originally posted by: underwerks
With all the talk of an extra planet lately, and the uptick in earthquakes and other weird natural phenomenon around the world, I've had a few ideas.

What if it isn't an actual planet at all but some type of weird space weather that travels through our solar system every so often? And disrupts our planet causing all types of natural disasters that when combined, spell out an extinction level event?

All we really know about the universe is what we can observe from this distant rock. In thinking about this, it raises more questions. Is there any type of known space weather or anything similar that could cause changes on a planetary scale?

I'm curious what type of forces would be required to effect a planet in that way, and if it's even possible.

Any ideas?

I have actually thought on this a lot.

My theory is that we ARE encountering space weather. Our solar system is travelling, just as our galaxy is travelling. Our entire galaxy is moving through the universe.

We are quite possibly moving into a section of the universe we have been before but well past the written history of man.

a reply to: underwerks

We are so small, the apparent spiral of the galaxy is nothing more than polarized light entering and reflecting from the core . Imagine a hallway that looks curled as a pigs tails, but when you walked it, you would never go upside down in reality, but as seen by others back home, and by those awaiting you you would be looping your way down a spiral.

This is the mechanism of polarity, and creation of 3d space out of 2d: Sine wave spiraling in, square wave pulsing out. It is also the reason endless galaxies are observed : they are the same galaxies light at differ points in time, repeating over and over as it spirals out.. This is 100% fact, proven by the observation of ice, of all things, leaving the projective plane manifold known as a galaxy.

The cosmic topologists happened to notice a repeating pattern that could not be explained in any other way, and have probably all been murdered for it since, as I've not heard anything about this evidence, anywhere, other than directly from the observers behind the scope years ago.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: underwerks

I thought our solar system was passing through the galactic plane which was the cause of all the 2012 doom porn.

Maybe we actually are going through the plane after all. Just a thought.

Something for me to do a little research on.

Wait? Are you suggesting that earth and everything around us is shifting into another galaxy or plane of existence? Sounds interesting but why?

Our galaxy can be described as a relatively flat spinning disk. The stars are scattered a little above and below the disk as a "thickness" to that disk. However, over time, as the stars move in a circle around the disk (our sun circles the galaxy disk every 250 million years), they also bob up and down through that disk, like some merry-go-round horses bob up and down.

When a star bobs from above to below it crosses the centerline of that disk -- which is called the galactic plane. Our Sun crosses the galactic plane every 32 million years.

Some scientists think that bobbing up and down can cause gravitational disturbances due to the solar system passing through different parts (maybe denser parts?) of the galactic plane. These gravitational disturbances are hypothesized by some to cause comets and asteroids that are usually in the outer solar system to come inward toward the inner solar system.

One of these asteroids disturbed and sent our way by the solar system bobbing up and down through the galactic plane could be what helped kill the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People



nice info sharing...


there is another (probable) factor associated with the bobbing-up-&-down as we orbit the Galaxy center...


I don't have the link at hand... and I have not yet read of a theory about the effects of inter-galactic radiation when our solar system is at the outer edge of the Galaxy in the extreme-most UP or DOWN position from the Galactic Plane density



there is a theory that Galaxies are shrouded in a cloud of 'Dark Matter' because the extra bending-of-light caused by unexpected Gravity (that should not be there except for the gravity associated with Un-observable Dark Matter)



just thought I would add some more possible factors and not just hoo-doo or woo-woo

originally posted by: BigBangWasAnEcho
a reply to: underwerks

We are so small, the apparent spiral of the galaxy is nothing more than polarized light entering and reflecting from the core . Imagine a hallway that looks curled as a pigs tails, but when you walked it, you would never go upside down in reality, but as seen by others back home, and by those awaiting you you would be looping your way down a spiral.

This is the mechanism of polarity, and creation of 3d space out of 2d: Sine wave spiraling in, square wave pulsing out. It is also the reason endless galaxies are observed : they are the same galaxies light at differ points in time, repeating over and over as it spirals out.. This is 100% fact, proven by the observation of ice, of all things, leaving the projective plane manifold known as a galaxy.

The cosmic topologists happened to notice a repeating pattern that could not be explained in any other way, and have probably all been murdered for it since, as I've not heard anything about this evidence, anywhere, other than directly from the observers behind the scope years ago.

That's very interesting. So if reality is actually two dimensional, I wonder why we perceive it as three dimensional?

It seems almost counter intuitive given how we generally think about the world, but I get your analogy.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

So it isn't unheard of to think that the different areas of space we pass through might effect us, through gravitational anomalies or maybe something else..

When you talk about gravitational disturbances, what type of phenomenon do you think that could entail?

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

So it isn't unheard of to think that the different areas of space we pass through might effect us, through gravitational anomalies or maybe something else..

When you talk about gravitational disturbances, what type of phenomenon do you think that could entail?

The solar system bobs up and down from an area above the plane of the main disk of the galaxy to an area below the plane of the main disk of the galaxy. The main disk itself would be a denser part of the galaxy that the areas above and below -- i.e., there would be more "stuff" (stars, dust, gas) on average in the disk than there would be above and below the disk. Our solar system passes through this plane every 70 Million years or so (I incorrectly wrote 32 million years in my other post above).

The hypothesis goes that when the solar system passes through the disk, which most astronomers don't think will happen for another 30 million years (+/-), and passes through that denser part of the galaxy, it is more likely to move past something (a star, brown dwarf, gas cloud, etc.) that could tug on comets and asteroids at the outer the solar system.

Those comets and asteroids are usually in stable orbits WAYYYY out there at the outer edge of the solar system, with stable orbits that do not bother each other or anything else. However, if the solar system moves past another star -- even by a few light years -- the small gravitational tug from that other star could jostle those comets and asteroids in such a way that causes them to alter their orbits slightly, taking them out of there nice clean "not bothering each other" orbits. This could cause those comets to collide with each other, which would in turn alter their orbits in chaotic ways, and some of those altered obits could take them into the inner solar system (where Earth and the other inner planets are located).

This would mean a larger than normal number of comets and asteroids would be hurtling through the inner solar system. This increased number of comets and asteroids zipping through the inner solar system would also increase the risk of one of those comets or asteroids hitting Earth.

Therefore (as the hypothesis goes) passing through the denser main disk of the galaxy every 70 million years or so could mean more comets and asteroids would be on orbits that could potentially hit Earth.

originally posted by: underwerks
Since it takes around 230 million years for our galaxy to rotate around the milky way it seems entirely possible to me that we may go through areas of space with different properties.

Maybe the time involved in between events is so large our species doesn't really have a concept of it yet. We haven't been here long enough to really observe it.

Well, not long enough for it to affect us, if it actually existed.

But the problem with that idea is that other bits of the Milky Way would be moving through those areas already, and we should be able to spot them at a distance due to any odd effects they might be undergoing. There's no sign of such cosmic weirdness going on, so it's probably not there.