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Vladimir Putin gave direct instructions to help elect Trump, report says

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posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: The GUT

Scared yet?


Only of idiots who have zero idea of where we are and how we got here. You still think a SCIF is a boat because that's how it sounded when you heard it on CNN?
edit on 23-6-2017 by The GUT because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Arnie123

You mean like when the prez gives top secret info to the commies and the on tv says "don't worry Israel...I didn't tell them we got the Intel from you..."


The GOP was all anti-commie during the COLD WAR because it helped justify defense budget spendng.

NOW? We have radical Islamic terrorism - or whatever to scare the PUBLIC into wanting more MILITARY.

So NOW the GOP sees Russia as a campaign piggy bank. Make NO MISTAKE this time it's the GOP -- but Russia WILL try to get their borscht-hooks INTO the Democrats.

Hell, even PAUL RYAN and his buddies joked about Trump being "paid by Russia"


“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.
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posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Arnie123

You mean like when the prez gives top secret info to the commies and the on tv says "don't worry Israel...I didn't tell them we got the Intel from you..."


Your too funny silly.

You do realize Russia is not considered a "Communist" Country anymore.
In fact, there are only 5 left.
1. China
2. North Korea
3. Cuba
4.Laos
5. Vietnam

You can revel in your "commies" scare tactics, or join the modern world and realize times have changed.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: DanteGaland

But there is nothing here. Just claims and talk no "beef". Totally fake.



We're all still waiting to hear specifically what the Russians did to help Trump. If it all boils down to exposing the corruption, manipulation, and obfuscation by the DNC regarding Bernie, then it borders on the comically insane. By taking the position that votes were swayed by factual information the public wasn't supposed to know, you really are demoralized in the truest sense.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

His agenda is first to get you to distrust the authorities.
Make it appear as if they are illegitimate and bumbling.
Then insert a different reality.
One where it appears that the president is being bamboozled and framed. Where those very authorities are actually only in existence to "get donny". That doesn't sound paranoid at all.
Then...
Limit access to the Whitehouse so that they can't be " caught" by tricky questions from the distrustful media. As a matter of fact let's just throw them all into the same kettle together and label it all fake news.
Anything not directly from the Whitehouse.

I can see this is happening. I wish you all could.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Like what?
Everybody keeps regurgitating these homilies but where's the meat?
What was in the DNC emails that was so incriminating and vile?
Anything you personally read...



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: DanteGaland

But there is nothing here. Just claims and talk no "beef". Totally fake.



We're all still waiting to hear specifically what the Russians did to help Trump. If it all boils down to exposing the corruption, manipulation, and obfuscation by the DNC regarding Bernie, then it borders on the comically insane. By taking the position that votes were swayed by factual information the public wasn't supposed to know, you really are demoralized in the truest sense.


YOU have to be willing to read. No one is GOING to spoon-feed it to you. From the WHITE paper (declassified):



MORE:


edit on 23-6-2017 by DanteGaland because: ADDED MORE



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: stosh64

Yeah you realise I'm sixty and grew up during the cold war. They will always be the reds, the commies. Socialist with oligarchs taking over for the Soviet state.
You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
Go live in Russia if they're so wonderful.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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Here's SOME of the names associated with Russian INTEL ops:



And MORE details:




posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: stosh64

Yeah you realise I'm sixty and grew up during the cold war. They will always be the reds, the commies. Socialist with oligarchs taking over for the Soviet state.
You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
Go live in Russia if they're so wonderful.


If they move there...

Then they get to LISTEN to great music like THIS!








posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

GAS LIGHTING...



...Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, it attempts to destabilize the target and delegitimize the target's belief....

WIKIPEDIA

...is all I SEE coming from the so-called "conservatives" on THIS topic.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: stosh64
Your too funny silly.

You do realize Russia is not considered a "Communist" Country anymore.
In fact, there are only 5 left.
1. China
2. North Korea
3. Cuba
4.Laos
5. Vietnam
You can revel in your "commies" scare tactics, or join the modern world and realize times have changed.

Well, I had to laugh at that, we know Russia is not a communist country but, do you honestly think that there not those who still really believe that the, "Ruskies are a bunch of commies"
There was post here somewhere the other night who made just such a reference...I hate commies! Elsewhere here, extreme right wingers call the Democrats 'Communists' while Republicans generally refer to Democrats as liberals...even though some Republicans call themselves..liberals! crazy or what?



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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Last line of the article...

So far there is no evidence of that, but it is a sign that the congressional investigations are expanding.

Quality journalism, as usual.




posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Uh...yea I'm not doing that merry-go-round with you for what would probably be the 34th time you've tried to do it.

Anybody who still maintains that there wasn't anything slimy about the DNC during the 2016 election and campaign is willfully ignoring things that are pretty commonly accepted at this point.

Even WaPo put out articles talking about how "damning" the leaks were. Yea, that bastion of "fake news" and "mouthpiece of the left" called the DNC leaks damning.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

They were never really "true" communists...



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: underpass61




We're all still waiting to hear specifically what the Russians did to help Trump.

Maxine knows, Trump colluded with Putin, and Putin gave him top secret slogans like "lock her up" and "crooked Hillary".

IMPEACH HIM!

But according to Maxine, there has been "no actual evidence yet"

IMPEACH!

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posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

And? It was only the latest in a long string of Russia-related "bombshells" (though, not really all "bombshells" imo) but that's not what you said, is it?

You said this:


No - it's the original allegation that started the whole shebang - Trump directly colluded with Vladimir Putin.


Is there somewhere in that article where the word collusion is used? Is there an actual allegation of collusion? Are any of the "bombshells" listed collusion? I'm not seeing it.

Trump said some dumb s#, he still refuses to admit what happened, he still refuses to say a bad word about Putin and he was in fact surrounded by sketchy people like Paul Manafort who worked for a decade for Putin's lapdog, Yanukovych. And when Yanukovych was deposed and whisked off to Russia by his benefactor, Paul Manafort stayed on and worked in Ukraine for his former chief of staff.

None of that is untrue or speculation or something that should be ignored as the Russians are hacking the DNC and Manafort is working for the opposition's candidate. Are you kidding me? Paul Manafort was in fact implicated in corruption in Ukraine. That's why he left the campaign.

But we're supposed to ignore smoke unless we're already burnt to cinders? Come on. Then you've got Carter Page running off to Moscow to talk s# on the West in the middle of the campaign and local sources reporting that he met with sanctioned individuals? No eyebrows raised? This is a guy that just a few years ago the SVR was trying to make an asset of.

And what about Flynn? What about Flynn lying about his contacts with Kislyak? Nobody should be suspicious of that either?

How can you deny that there is reason for investigation of possible collusion to be a part of the over all investigation into Russian meddling? I don't get it.

You didn't answer my questions though:


Wasn't this "whole shebang" kicked off by meddling in the US Presidential election by hostile foreign powers?

You don't believe that without the possibility of collusion, that there is any genuine concern over Russians inteferring in US elections? That the hacking of the DNC/DCCC/etc, publication of the emails, the disinformatzia campaign pushed by troll farms on social media, the efforts to infiltrate election related sites, etc are not serious matters? Or do you believe that none of them happened?


Possible collusion is but one aspect of the investigation. Whether or not there was any collusion — even if that wasn't even on the radar — these investigations are a big deal and these investigations would be taking place. A lack of collusion doesn't make all the Russian meddling "a Dem hoax."

Trump keeps making it worse because admitting that the Russians or anyone else meddled in the election scares him because it opens the door to people saying that without it, he might have lost.

It's just that simple.

He weakness on this disgusts me.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

ALL the broad stroke labeling of adversaries makes me shake my head and walk away most of the time.

To fight it feels like bailing water with a bucket on the Titanic



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: DanteGaland

But there is nothing here. Just claims and talk no "beef". Totally fake.



We're all still waiting to hear specifically what the Russians did to help Trump. If it all boils down to exposing the corruption, manipulation, and obfuscation by the DNC regarding Bernie, then it borders on the comically insane. By taking the position that votes were swayed by factual information the public wasn't supposed to know, you really are demoralized in the truest sense.


YOU have to be willing to read. No one is GOING to spoon-feed it to you.




"may correspond to malicious activity" "attempts to exploit the vulnerabilities may be experienced" , yep pretty damning stuff alright. Sounds like a job for Malwarebytes. As far as RT, I've never read it and don't plan to. Contrary to what you want to believe, I'd bet the vast majority of people based their vote on what the candidates actually said and how it resonated with their view of where this country was going, not on some random spam. STILL waiting for one concrete example of Russian interference. "Influence" is an imprecise, BS word. Evidence please, not feelings.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 05:12 PM
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Thanks for posting information that has been available for months.
If you had any idea what you were reading - which you obviously don;t - you would know that document contains nothing resembling evidence.



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