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Qatar, Trump and the State Department

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posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 05:00 AM
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Savdis are claiming that Qatar is funding terrorism after allegedly, as Qatar claims, having hacked into their government database and planted misinformation from phones originating in S.A. ally nations.

Soon after Trump's visit.

I am just curious as one who doesn't understand how if the POTUS says this does the State Department send 12 billion to them in military aide.

How's that work?

Who exactly does our State Department answer to?

Is Trump just being stealthy and diplomatic towards the Savdis to pacify them momentarily?

As a Muslim I have never liked Trump but I have come to understand he may have to say some things I find offensive to accomplish goals that might benefit the world.

I have come to accept this. I like what Trump is doing right now. I see things.

I just want to ask what people think about this comment about Qatar who essentially has done nothing wrong and if Trump allowed 12 bil in aide to go there that is worth more than words probably uttered just to pacify temporarily the Sabbatean Arabians.

But is that the case?

Does he approve such things, have power to stop foreign military aide?

I am not educated on the matter and I can't really figure it out, I want to believe what I just said about Trump is true, and I do.

Any information I get I will be grateful.
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posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 05:34 AM
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a reply to: Disturbinatti

As long as congress releases the funds, he can do just about anything he wants.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Disturbinatti

As long as congress releases the funds, he can do just about anything he wants.



Can they spend the 12 bil without his ok?

As CIC I would guess no.
edit on 23-6-2017 by Disturbinatti because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: Disturbinatti

The president can't write new laws. He has great freedom in foreign affairs to do with the military. He can write executive orders, orders is not same as a law. All funding comes from Congress. Congress releases the funds where directed by the law.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3


I know the difference between executive orders and laws passed through Congress but I appreciate you telling me as you have no way of knowing that.


I am however not inquiring about laws in the way it seems you might think.


Put simply I just want to know if that 12 billion in aide needs Trumps approval, I am aware of how the branches of government operate together using checks and balances.

But this is a military issue because of the nature of the designation of the 12 bil is military aide.


Again, Trump allegedly agrees with S.A.

Our State department funded Qatar.

Was that with Trump or without?



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Disturbinatti

The president can't write new laws.


What makes you think I am inquiring about writing laws seeing as how I didn't say anything about writing laws?



He has great freedom in foreign affairs to do with the military. He can write executive orders, orders is not same as a law.


Wasn't my question, I know this.



All funding comes from Congress. Congress releases the funds where directed by the law.



Does Trump, the POTUS, or did he rather, approve the 12 billion?

That's my question.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: Disturbinatti


Seems to me that the changing of the line of succession a few days ago, in the House of Saud, coupled with rumored stepping down of the king, indicates some strong poker playing, going on in the background.

We hear on the news about these "weapons deals". But, that is so vague as to be almost meaningless. Moving money and treasury bonds and other financial instruments between nations, requires something of a public face. But, in the ME, the only "products" that can believably be exchanged at that level, are oil/natural gas and weapons.

It may just be as simple as putting a putting a semi-legitimate face on plain old ransoms and payoffs. At any rate, there is some serious Sun Tzu going on.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: Disturbinatti
Maybe there is a language disconnect. Find the answer you want. Bye.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 08:18 AM
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So the Saudi's, of whom Osama Bin Laden was one, 15/19 of the 9-11 attackers were Saudis, Wahabbism was founded and supported by the Saudi's, but the Saudi's are telling us the Qatarians are the problem here?

Riiiiight.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Enderdog
a reply to: Disturbinatti


Seems to me that the changing of the line of succession a few days ago, in the House of Saud, coupled with rumored stepping down of the king, indicates some strong poker playing, going on in the background.

We hear on the news about these "weapons deals". But, that is so vague as to be almost meaningless. Moving money and treasury bonds and other financial instruments between nations, requires something of a public face. But, in the ME, the only "products" that can believably be exchanged at that level, are oil/natural gas and weapons.

It may just be as simple as putting a putting a semi-legitimate face on plain old ransoms and payoffs. At any rate, there is some serious Sun Tzu going on.


So... business as usual?

Or something like that.

I am growing more convinced by the day that Trump is not who the frantic parties and the media and basically the whole establishment present him as.

There seems to be a movement to discredit everything he says because it sounds crazy, is.

But they'd be a lot less concerned if he was lying and they are concerned because he knows a lot and is planning something big.

The one benefit of his narcissistic personality is that he wants to be the guy who did what nobody else could, grandiose but admirable.

I wish him luck...

I think his trip to SA, what he said and why he went there was a veiled threat at the puppet regimed of the neo colonialists to stop sponsoring terrorism.

Because it isn't the civilian Muslims causing dissent, it's the regimes.

And I have always thought that ISIS was a Mossad CIA front to destabilize the region between Nile to the Euphrates. Or Nile to Tigris I forget which.

Ex US Marine Kenneth O'Keefe on YouTube is vocal about this and you can tell he isn't lying by the accusations, standard operating zionist procedure of shouting "Anti-Semite" which was coined specifically to bully anyone who speaks against the parasitic movement, label as a biggot.

Truth is 90 % of "Jews" aren't Semitic at all and may be Jewish religously aren't even Semitic, Hebrew, Israelite or even Judahites.

They come from the Biblical Ashkenaz descendants of Jspheth, Gomer.

So I am certain it is true.

I hope Trump can stop the atrocities in Syria and Palestine and Iraq before it's too late.
edit on 23-6-2017 by Disturbinatti because: Nile river, correct mistake



posted on Jun, 25 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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Civil war in Saudi Arabia is imminent think about it the king made a cunning move to dethrone the current crowned prince , and have his son take his place as the crown prince a move never done before in Saudi Arabias history , this has got the politics of Saudi Arabia tense . As the young crown prince now wants Saudi Arabia to modernise , allow women to drive , go out without a guardian yada yada whereas the older crown prince wants the regime to remain the same, interestingly enough Saudi Arabia's display of aggression towards Qatar and Yemen is the direct result of Saudi Araba's young crown prince the older prince is said to be behind close doors and has practically backed down , however many are suspecting he is up to something , anyone else think Saudi Arabia will collapse onto itself and plunge into civil war??? i most certainly do , Saudi Arabia now has too many enemies in the region , Syria , Qatar , Iran , Turkey and all their allies. Either that or they attempt to invade Iran either way the shias within Saudi Arabia will rebel and the country one way or another, it seems they are expecting a huge backlash hence why the US is helping them military wise in proving them with weaponry and training and of course the ludicrous deal wherein Saudi Arabia will continue to sell its oil for dollars to keep the American petrodollar alive either way Saudi will end up in turmoil just like every other damned middle eastern country , except i don't mind if Saudi Arabia falls.


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posted on Jun, 26 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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If true, I have heard similar information, Allahu Akbar I wish him the best.

Unfortunately for the Arabians Wahhabism is the more or less state religion and was only successful because of the sponsorship of British intelligence agencies who after WW1 colonized the Muslim world with the French getting Syria installing the Nusayyri Alawi pagans and the British installing the Donmeh-Sabbateans, the so called Young Turks who commited the Armenian Holocaust.

The Saudis aren't Muslims they are Sabbatean Jews, and that's not to say Orthodox but followers of Jakob Frank and before him false Messiah Sabbatai Svi who masterminded a massive false conversion to Islam allegedly at the behest of Rosicrucians.

So I am suspicious of anything the Sabbatean Arabians do but I also talk to Wahhabis on YouTube and they are actually very liberal and not intolerant like their Wahhabi leaders so I feel bad for them.

It's them who have made Islam look like something it never was and in fact is the polar opposite of reality.

Study the history of Islam you will uncover support from the Coptic Christians against Byzantium, ditto for the Jews of Persia and the Syrian Monks and the Byzantine Empire even preferred tolerant Muslim rule to intolerant Christian rule.

As Europe sat in squalor the Muslim world from Spain to Baghdad...all over, was scientifically advanced because they inherited the science of the Greeks and it was formerly ridiculed by them as was their philosophy so when they saw what was going on and since they were destitute this led to the genocide of Muslims, Jews and Christians in Jerusalem, the centuries long Crusade which hardly dented the Muslim world and was taken back by Saladin who let the Christians stay to honor the mercy Umar (sa) showed in his day and the Prophet saws in his.

These demands on Qatar are absurd though so I wish my Muslim brothers and sisters the best but I am not expecting any changes because of the oil the West won't ever let the peninsula slip out of the hands of their satanic allies.



posted on Jun, 28 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Disturbinatti

Oh , i'm well aware of Saudi arabia's origins trust me mate.

This hadith from our prophet Muhammed (saw) is very interesting
the prophet saw said ya Allah (oh god) save Syria and Yemen , when the companions asked him what about our Najd (saudi arabia) the prophet again repeated ya Allah (oh god) save Syria and Yemen when again the companions asked him what about our Najd (Saudi Arabia) he said from Najd the horns of satan will rise.

'The horns of satan' many have interpreted as wahhabism and extremism in the region. Interestingly Our prophet prophecies that Saudi Arabia (or more general the arabs) will be the first to attack the muslims and Imam Mahdi , the arabs will refuse islam (orthodox) and will proclaim Imam mahdi an imposter and would then proceed to attack him. Little do they know they are the true imposters, justice awaits them.





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