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Originally posted by Souljah
Fantastic posts my Friend!
The decisions announced by Chavez are very similar to those taken in the early years of the Cuban Revolution.
Given the announcements made last week, when he was inaugurated for a new term and named a new Cabinet, we can say that Venezuela is heading towards the old communism of the last century, and more in the Cuban or North Korean style than the Chinese.
Thank you for providing a link and excerpt which tells the truth about the situation in Venezuela.
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which means "Nation, Socialism or death"...
"Patria, socialismo o muerte"
"Ya están los periódicos especulando que si no vino (el presidente de Brasil, Luis Ignacio) Lula, que si (el presidente de Colombia, Álvaro) Uribe no va, pero están mis amigos embajadores y embajadoras. Dentro de seis años pensaremos si los invitamos en 2014", ha añadido Chávez tras referirse a su "propuesta" de reelección indefinida.
Is Chavez a FREEMASON?
YES CHAVEZ IS A 33o DEGREE FREEMASON AS HIS FRIEND AND BROTHER CASTRO 33o OF THE A.A.S.R. , CHAVEZ BECAME INITIALY A FREEMASON IN CUBA BEFORE BEING NOMINATED IN HIS COUNTRY AS PRESIDENT AND LIKE CASTRO USES FREEMASONRY TO KEEP IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE ILLUMINATI OF THE VATICAN LIKE GM PASQUALE CEROFOLLINI WHO WENT TO CUBA FOR AN OFFICIAL MASONIC MEETING WITH THE CUBAN GRAND MASTER AND FIDEL CASTRO LAST MARCH. MW.BRO PASQUALE HIS FROM THE IRREGULAR ILLUMINATI MASONIC NETWORK OF BROTHER RUI GABIRRO KNOWN AS THE DUKE OF CABINDA IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH BRO.CHAVEZ AND HAVE ESTABLISHED A NEW GRAND LODGE IN VENEZUELA FOUNDED BY THESE ILLUMINATI OIL BARONS AND DRUG DEALERS OF THE REGULAR GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND NETWORK KNOWN AS MASONIC HIGH COUNCIL MANIPULATED BY THE JESUITS.
LEO LYON ZAGAMI
Is Chavez a FREEMASON?
- First, obviously oil and oil prices come to our mind. Chavez is one of the key factors in the raise of oil prices. He lead the Opep in the oil rises prices and encourages the strategy of lowering the production to make prices even higher.
- Banks come to our mind second, since their freedom to operate is almost unrestricted. Its known that the Venezuelan debt has been growing, the riches coming from oil high all prices are dilluted in corruption and giving money to other countries, it has not been used in the least to clear the country's debt.
- Transnationals: the growth of imports have snowballed and the national industry and even agriculture almost totally destroyed. The government only supports small cooperatives, the big piece of the cake is for foreigners only.
- The South American agenda of keeping governments corrupt and 'sold' to foreign powers, but now with a 'revolutionary' mask. The socialist laws are shady by themselves, and the interpretation of them even more shady.
- Chavez is also part of the Zionist agenda through the supporting of extremist Islam groups.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Using a poker analogy, if you turn over a royal flush after 5 cards are dealt, the game is over. Doesn't matter what hand anyone else has. I think that is in effect what you have done to chavez's supporters and apologists on this thread.
They can't continue to support chavez without revealing themselves to be dupes and fools.
Originally posted by Souljah
My Point is this:
Is Chavez a FREEMASON?
YES CHAVEZ IS A 33o DEGREE FREEMASON AS HIS FRIEND AND BROTHER CASTRO 33o OF THE A.A.S.R. , CHAVEZ BECAME INITIALY A FREEMASON IN CUBA BEFORE BEING NOMINATED IN HIS COUNTRY AS PRESIDENT AND LIKE CASTRO USES FREEMASONRY TO KEEP IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE ILLUMINATI OF THE VATICAN LIKE GM PASQUALE CEROFOLLINI WHO WENT TO CUBA FOR AN OFFICIAL MASONIC MEETING WITH THE CUBAN GRAND MASTER AND FIDEL CASTRO LAST MARCH.
Well that certainly is a short and very eye opening information.
Looks like all of these so-called world "Enemies" have a very important thing in common - they are ALL Freemason! Which means, they are all connected.
Which means, everything we see and read and "know" about how Venezuela is an enemy of the West, a part of Axis of Evil and other crap like that, is actually man made. Just for You. Just for the public. To divide us. To make two camps - one for Venezuela, and the other Against. Actually they do not care what we think and know, since they know a whole lot more, and they make a gazzillion of dollars by the way.
So - Chavez is also a part of the New World Order and he is dancing to their tune; the tune of the hidden shadow goverment, from which he gets instructions on the regular Freemason meetings.
Originally posted by Souljah
As I have said many times before, some people here are just too narrowminded. The question, if they are doing that on purpose or if it is a part of their hidden agenda or if it is complete ignorance, depends from person to person. Here I just see selective "reporting" how to demonize one part of the bigger story and selectivly ignore other, more importants parts of it.
Fidel Castro's regime in Cuba actually banned Christmas from 1969 to 1997,
After years of shaping Cuba as an atheist state, Fidel Castro has started to make some room for religion on the island.
Do you believe in God? No atheist can become a member of a Freemasonry Lodge.
"Fatherland. Socialism - or death! I swear it." After a pause, he added: "I swear by Christ - the greatest socialist in history."
Since being re-elected in a landslide last month the former paratrooper has tightened his grip on power and promised to nationalise key sectors of the economy to shunt the world's fifth biggest oil exporter away from capitalist inequality and privilege.
The past eight years of his rule, which started with Blairite rhetoric about a third way, laid the groundwork for what will henceforth be accelerating radicalisation on the principles of Trotsky's permanent revolution, said Mr Chavez. "We have hardly begun. It will be permanent."
Turning to look into the camera he saluted and said "Hello, Fidel", probably correctly assuming that his mentor, the ailing Cuban leader, was watching.
Citing the Bible to show Jesus was a communist, the president attacked Venezuela's Roman Catholic church and the head of the Organisation of American States for criticising his decision not to renew the licence of an opposition-aligned TV station.
WHEN VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT HUGO CH VEZ met with the Pope earlier this week, he assured Benedict XVI that he is a Christian. And he told the press that has a special friend who is one too. Sort of.
"Our Bolivarian revolution is very Christian and I have a friend who isn't Christian, but lately has said he is a Christian in the social aspect: his name is Fidel Castro," Chávez announced. "I talk to [Castro] a lot about Christ each time we see each other, and he told me recently, 'Chávez, I'm Christian in the social sense.'"
"The true Christ, the one of communal property, was more of a communist than a socialist. He was an authentic communist, an anti-imperialist, an enemy of the oligarchy, of the elites and of the established power," said Chavez. "There still are parts of the Catholic church that manipulate Christ in an effort to make that religion what Marx called the opium of the people."
“Cristo es uno de los más grandes revolucionarios que haya nacido en la tierra. El verdadero Cristo no es el que algunos sectores de la Iglesia católica manipulan. Cristo era un verdadero revolucionario socialista”, sostuvo Chávez, quien ya lanzado fue a más: “el Cristo verdadero era comunista más que socialista; era un comunista auténtico, un antiimperialista, enemigo de la oligarquía, enemigo de las elites y del poder”.
Chavez called on Monday for the resignation of Insulza as the head of the OAS, after Insulza criticised a move to shut down a Venezuelan television channel. Chavez, who often takes strong verbal swipes at critics, referred to Insulza in highly insulting terms
Insulza is a former government minister from Chile, and the Chilean government on Tuesday chided Chavez for the comments. Relations between states and with international bodies should be conducted with "respectful and constructive language," Foreign Minister Alejandro Foxley told reporters in Santiago.
“Al insulso doctor Insulza debería darle vergüenza, debería renunciar a la secretaria de la OEA. Venezuela es libre; Venezuela se liberó para siempre; váyase con su ‘insulsería’ a otro lado”, añadió el presidente.
Para rematar, Chávez dijo que la decisión de no renovar la concesión a RCTV es irreversible: “Juro que nada, ni nadie, impedirá que se cumpla esa decisión de no renovarle la concesión a este canal de televisión”.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Wow...you are really something...
souljah, i just proved castro has "always been an atheist"...in order to be a "freemason" you have to believe in God, hence you can't be an atheist, hence castro is not and has never been a "freemason"...
The Black Pope
In synchronizing his worldwide overt and covert factions to work the Order’s evil ends of the Vatican’s Counter-Reformation in restoring the Papal Caesar as the absolute Universal Monarch of the World, the Black Pope used his Masonically-controlled, fanatically anti-Jewish Race, Islamic Intelligence operatives under the domestic control of the CIA (Osama bin Laden having been directed, financed and trained by the CIA for at least ten years — just like Jesuit-trained and CIA-financed Fidel Castro before he, like bin Laden, became a false enemy of the CFR-controlled American government)...
Chavez Speech to UN
I sat in lodge with Hugo Chavez at The Grand Lodge of Freemasons in Texas. It was 1995 or 1996, I think. It was right after he was elected president. The Brother that introduced him said " you're elected for life down there in Venezuela aren't you" and the other 4000 of us just kind of laughed. I think that some of us thought it was a joke. Afterwards I shook his hand and said "Bienvienidos" which I thought was Welcome. He looked at me like I was crazy, or he was scared or both. It was either a "who do you think you are ?" or it was a "is he trying to kill me?" I am just concluding this because of how he looked at me. I never realized that he was a communist dictator, or at least one in training. However I had my suspicions when his speech that he gave at Grand Lodge contained numerous references to "My people". I stand 6'3" and I had to look up at Chavez. He wasn't as fat then and he was very impressive in stature. I remember thinking "That's the biggest 'mexican' I've ever seen. His hands were enormous when we shook hands. Not too long ago Chavez announced that he planned on serving another 20 years. I just thought someone might find this interesting. I figured the conspiracy nuts would have a ball with Chavez being a Freemason.
THE ILLUMINATI PUPPET SHOW
"They all work together, including Hugo Chavez who really is helping Bush's agenda by his theatrical performances," said Zagami. Chavez is controlled by the Vatican and working with the New World Order as are all other leaders of the world's major government's and religions.
"This is how they operate with the top layers working together for one purpose in what they think is the perfect cover-up. Wahabi or Wahibi [the Saudis] were created by the Zionists and their English friends who think they are the lost tribe of Israel. The same happened with Arafat and the so-called Muslim Brotherhood created by the English intelligence."