Scientologists set up huge tent next to Grenfell Tower to ‘heal’ victims

a reply to: muzzleflash

So now the government is in the wrong for helping?

Well shoot. Why don't we just let all the victims rot on the street, right?

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: muzzleflash

They actually try to do Good.

I'm guessing you're either a scientologist or never looked into them.

Try looking up Leah Remini and try saying that Scientology are trying to be good.

I know an exceptional amount about their cult and their mindlessness and their underhanded and sometimes illegal tactics.

But it's often the same story with most religions, organizations, clubs, or even companies. They are mindless drones that believe in foolishness and do really stupid things to promote or protect their team.

Everyone believes in stupid crap at the end of the day. That's a fact.

But at the same time a lot of them are genuinely good people that actually want to help others who need it. That's something our society needs more of. Good people.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: muzzleflash

So now the government is in the wrong for helping?

Well shoot. Why don't we just let all the victims rot on the street, right?

The govt uses guns and threats of jail to take money away from everyone to redistribute it.

All of these other organizations are VOLUNTARY DONATIONS!!

You don't get it at all do you?
You are promoting socialism communism while deriding freedom and libertarian values.

a reply to: muzzleflash

That's nice.

Let's all join Scientology because they're only trying to do good.

Forget about the torture, stalking, assaults extortions and everything else. They're only trying to be good.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: muzzleflash

Well shoot. Why don't we just let all the victims rot on the street, right?

Yeah I just spent the last 30 minutes telling you to let the victims rot??? Where???

I was clearly scolding you for insulting someone who offered to help the victims by extolling their virtue.

You have no valid position to argue at all.

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: muzzleflash

Well shoot. Why don't we just let all the victims rot on the street, right?

Yeah I just spent the last 30 minutes telling you to let the victims rot??? Where???

I was clearly scolding you for insulting someone who offered to help the victims by extolling their virtue.

You have no valid position to argue at all.

By massages to heal them.

Oh, and to get them some air time to shove their cult in everyone's faces.

Never let a good disaster go to waste.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: muzzleflash

That's nice.

Let's all join Scientology because they're only trying to do good.

Forget about the torture, stalking, assaults extortions and everything else. They're only trying to be good.

Where did I say join Scientology?

You just made a Straw Man argument (again).

I defended all community service by all groups and yes that includes Scientology.

You don't have to join any group to serve your fellow man in need but if you're in a group that wants to serve as a team thats EXCELLENT.

a reply to: muzzleflash

So now Scientology is excellent?

I think you're right. We should all follow their ideologies. Threats, extortion, torture and a lot of other "good" things they're trying to do.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: muzzleflash

Well shoot. Why don't we just let all the victims rot on the street, right?

Yeah I just spent the last 30 minutes telling you to let the victims rot??? Where???

I was clearly scolding you for insulting someone who offered to help the victims by extolling their virtue.

You have no valid position to argue at all.

By massages to heal them.

Oh, and to get them some air time to shove their cult in everyone's faces.

Never let a good disaster go to waste.

Why do you keep ignoring the part where they said they are also giving food and clothing among other donations???

Does focusing on the massage aspect make it easier to justify hating someone who's helping others while you likely aren't doing anything except condemning one of the groups that is??

Hell I think I need a massage too now...

a reply to: muzzleflash

They're a dangerous cult, nothing more. All they're trying to do is show their "good" side to try and combat all the negatives they've done.

Basically what they're doing is trying to show people they deserve religious status in the UK by doing "good".

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: muzzleflash

So now Scientology is excellent?

I think you're right. We should all follow their ideologies. Threats, extortion, torture and a lot of other "good" things they're trying to do.

You have lost this argument so pitifully.
I never said that #.

If this is the crap you say while I'm mopping the floor to clean up your bile than I'm gonna suggest you check your Pride at the door because it's ruining the floor, brotha.

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: Raggedyman

So your logic is don't tell the Scientologists the truth, because truth equals hate?

Yeah, if that's what you got from my comments then you best go with that
If that's what you comprehended from what I wrote....
I don't think you have the capacity...

Here is some truth, you need to educate yourself rather than think you have been educated

Last I noticed, three people starred my comment, so obviously they understood my point
You on the other hand got offended, or twisted it.
I would say the issue lies with you

a reply to: muzzleflash

I'm not the one who is sticking up for a dangerous cult because "they're trying to do good".

Other cults "tried to do good" too, and we all know what happens.

a reply to: muzzleflash

If you saw the way Christian churches in Nashville always insist on preaching the Gospel to the homeless they feed and clothe I bet you'd say that to them too. And God forbid I hear what you'd say about the Masons or Muslims or Jews or Unitarians.

Christian ministers do not charge their constituents $300,000 for enlightenment.

And that would be one difference. I can list more if you'd like.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Yeah, if that's what you got from my comments then you best go with that
If that's what you comprehended from what I wrote....
I don't think you have the capacity...

What do I not have the capacity to do? Please elaborate.

Here is some truth, you need to educate yourself rather than think you have been educated

Giving me advice when I didn't ask for it, check that one off.

Last I noticed, three people starred my comment, so obviously they understood my point

I guess stars equals truth to you.

You on the other hand got offended, or twisted it.
I would say the issue lies with you

Where did I get offended? And what did I twist? You're the one calling me names, telling me I'm uneducated, when I've done nothing of the sort to you.

I'll clarify things for you and remind you that my thread is not in the mud pit. I've made a conscious decision not to engage you in criticism, rather I feel like your comments speak for themselves, and you are only proving my points for me.

a reply to: TerryDon79
Read my post
Change your name to Luke warm folly

Then read my post again

I wasn't sticking up for Scientology, just the poor people who you hate and probably need support, empathy and compassion to get out of Scientology
Not abuse from some arrogant self righteous I am better than you internet hero

a reply to: Raggedyman

I have sympathy for anyone in any cult,

what about the one you belong to ?

a reply to: Raggedyman

I wasn't sticking up for Scientology, just the poor people who you hate and probably need support, empathy and compassion to get out of Scientology
Not abuse from some arrogant self righteous I am better than you internet hero

Awe shucks, I'm flattered.

So if you believe that the people in Scientology are victims, what would you do to save them?

More importantly, what could you do to help them, that hasn't already been done by Leah Remini & Paul Haggis?

They chose to be where they are, and they chose to go offer massages to the victims at Grenfall. They issued a statement to the press that they have donated toys and blankets and such, but none of that has been substantiated.

Again, I don't hate anyone. Nor have I ever claimed to be better than anyone.

If anything, you are the one spreading hate.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Raggedyman

I have sympathy for anyone in any cult,

what about the one you belong to ?

If your concerned about my finances then rest easy.
I don't have to buy anything off or give my church any money at all

and
If I don't like my church, I can go find another one with no fear my eternal life is in jeopardy

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TerryDon79
Read my post
Change your name to Luke warm folly

Then read my post again

I wasn't sticking up for Scientology, just the poor people who you hate and probably need support, empathy and compassion to get out of Scientology
Not abuse from some arrogant self righteous I am better than you internet hero

I wasn't replying to you. Unless you have 2 accounts, that is.

But you keep spewing your hate under the guise of religion.