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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I'm pissed at both sides. The far left is pushing hate. The far right is pushing hate.
Perhaps you should work on those on the right pushing the hate on the left, pushing the hateful agenda that all people on the left support terrorism.
Let's work together and stop pushing the division.
I understand why some would call others Islam apologist because they think Islam is an ideology (like you said in the OP) and supports terrorism.
That thing about how people like I'm talking about if this were 1930's Nazi Germany they'd be shouting that it wasn't the fault of the Nazi's and their propaganda apparatus that people were out gangstalking Jews, well that's you 101%.
It's not BLM's fault they're movement has whites being openly hunted on the streets (FOR STARTERS).
It's not CRT's fault SJW's exhibit a natural tendency to be violent fascists.
It's not the MSM & Hollyweird's fault that people are being radicalized to go and hunt Republican politicians, etc. We just discussed this the other day so dont even play coy with me here.
It's all in the site, its all on record. All of the above.
I've got the whole logic pegged: its never the fountainheads fault for their movement turning radical. Its always the individuals fault. Meaning in Nazi Germany it would have been the commoner gangstalkers faults for their thuggery, not the fault of the Nazi's.
And that's BS.
You might let all my words herein sink in without jumping to react. Apologism on this scale is enablement. And people are DYING now.
Kristallnacht, also referred to as the Night of Broken Glass, ...was a pogrom against Jews throughout Nazi Germany on 9–10 November 1938, carried out by SA paramilitary forces and German civilians. German authorities looked on without intervening. The name Kristallnacht comes from the shards of broken glass that littered the streets after the windows of Jewish-owned stores, buildings, and synagogues were smashed.
Estimates of the number of fatalities caused by the pogrom have varied. Early reporting estimated that 91 Jewish people were murdered during the attacks. Modern analysis of German scholarly sources by historians such as Richard J. Evans puts the number much higher. When deaths from post-arrest maltreatment and subsequent suicides are included, the death toll climbs into the hundreds. Additionally, 30,000 Jewish men were arrested and incarcerated in Nazi concentration camps.
Jewish homes, hospitals, and schools were ransacked, as the attackers demolished buildings with sledgehammers. Over 1,000 synagogues were burned (95 in Vienna alone) and over 7,000 Jewish businesses were either destroyed or damaged. Martin Gilbert writes that no event in the history of German Jews between 1933 and 1945 was so widely reported as it was happening, and the accounts from the foreign journalists working in Germany sent shock waves around the world. The Times wrote at the time: "No foreign propagandist bent upon blackening Germany before the world could outdo the tale of burnings and beatings, of blackguardly assaults on defenseless and innocent people, which disgraced that country yesterday."
Wiggle all you want: I've been observing you for a year and the results are conclusive: If you were in Nazi Germany, when the citizens stormed the Jews and smashed their properties all up, you'd have been in 'wherever' writing articles about how it wasn't the fault of the Nazi's anti-Jew propaganda campaign that radicalized them.
You'd be spinning it all as it was only the individuals to blame. And that those individuals were only a few bad apples out doing it. It wasn't the Nazi movements fault. It didn't represent the Nazi movement. It wasn't Hitler's fault. It wasn't Goebbels fault. It wasn't the Nazi Party's fault. It wasn't National Socialism's fault. It wasn't etc etc etc fault. If they had Internet then you'd be in your favorite forum derailing thread after thread along these lines.
You know exactly what I'm talking about.
I'd like to think you never saw it this way, and that you might introspect about it. I have hope for you.
This is about where we are in America RIGHT NOW. How many years after the Kristallnacht was it before they started loading them into trains?
originally posted by: introvert
I do. You're talking complete bull#.
I've seen you argue across perhaps thousands of posts in every topic in my OP, in every single instance (BLM in particular, but also the MSM with the Congress shooter, Islam, etc), every single time essentially every single atrocity you pop in and start more or less derailing the threads about how it wasnt the fault of the social movement fountainheads, or the ideology itself (generally you FLAT OUT DENY the ideologies even exist as the ultimate preemptive shield move), and so on.
And the comparison is spot on because all that flowed from Nazi Germany rule, that was THEIR social movement. They with their propaganda apparatus and ideology and political power moves stirred up a hornets nest of rabid supporters whom set about blowing up the world and decimating the Jews, and they nearly succeeded.
Political campaigns and social movements or Communist Revolutions or corporate craze campaigns are hardly distinguishable.
Defend, deflect, derail, deny, if not outright support.... Here's a few examples of the top of my head: Exhibit A Exhibit B Exhibit C
I'd bet just about every breaking active attack thread, every BLM thread, etc, all last year you can be found in them doing the same old hatchet job. And similar work in every other liberal radicalism / SJW thread.
Damn are you a complete waste of time to try to reason with. The intellectual dishonesty with you has to be in the top 25 all time list in this site; I'm talking on par wit the 9/11 No Planer lunatics.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I dont talk out of my ass,
If the Democrat party isn't racist then explain why it is they've haven't dismantled the War On Drugs yet.
I don't believe there is any political party that is racist, or who's principles are based on racism. Only individuals within the parties are racist. That goes for both Dems, Reps or whatever party you can think of.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Deaf Alien
It's all int here.
I dont talk out of my ass, I'm extremely stringent about never being wrong. You can all hate me all you want but it doesnt mean I'm wrong. And my analysis here isn't a matter of opinion. Neither is this statement: I could post 25 thread examples, quotes the whole way down the page, and he'd still come in here and DENY it all, wouldn't budge a millimeter, and would do the wall of microquotes thing just to make it tedious. Then I were to respond with 200 more thread examples he'd do it all over again. Like a pathological liar. Unless maybe he'd get bored with it.