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Everyday Terrorist Sympathizers

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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: Wookiep

Yes, that is squarely on the people.




posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I'm pissed at both sides. The far left is pushing hate. The far right is pushing hate.
Perhaps you should work on those on the right pushing the hate on the left, pushing the hateful agenda that all people on the left support terrorism.
Let's work together and stop pushing the division.
I understand why some would call others Islam apologist because they think Islam is an ideology (like you said in the OP) and supports terrorism.


I cant speak much to the far right, because I dont visit far right sites.

I know half the libs around here love referring to all opposition as "Alt-Right", which tends to seem to be in rhefernce to the white national contingent, but in my experience there's almost a zero tolerance policy around here to true white nationalist / white supremacist views.

The resident SJW types might take note of tht before the next time they allege this is some kind of far rigth outpost or however they word it, because the SJW viewpoint is tolerated around here so long as its at least semi-polite. And I'm not talking about the members with this.

I can argue with endless talking points demonstrating CRT as being as racist an ideology as is possible.

So there's that.


The part everyone really ought to make note of is, the bulk of my whole impression of current 'liberals' is by my observations in this very site. Yes, when I'm working on pieces I'll go out on the google as needed and come across stuff. And yes sometimes I play SJW Cringe videos for a laugh. But aside from what gets posted in this site, and what the posters be saying in this site, my whole framework is based on my experiences herein. 13 months ago I hadnt ever even heard the term "SJW". I dont have TV for over 15 years. Etc.

So it can be said that my whole narrative so many around here loathe, its based on 'all yall'.

I'm the dark shouting mirror.


Now of course not every liberal around here is an SJW, or whatever, but rare is the voice of the liberals like I remember from 10 years ago. We were comrades against American imperialism. Etc. Few and far between around here are the liberals I hw I remember them from around here.

This place being the furthest thing from an echo chamber is why I love it. Fine, maybe too much of the dark sides get brought up, but the thing is the "far right" atrocities are like 1 to 100 of the "far left" atrocities. And most importantly: I dont see the 'everyday conservatives' nurture and support the perps.


Now about Islam, sure, not every Muslim is into wife beating / child rape / etc. Yet its deeply entrenched into their culture. And the "Sympathizers" too often they'd crucify anyone that criticizes anything to do with Islam. We all know it to be true.

But the whole thing is an interesting port hole into my OP, I had contemplated including....

The thing about "Mainstream Global Islam", is sure only maybe 15% of them actually go around committing atrocities, and all that other "Dark Side of Islam" stuff. But then some half of the rest of them actually support the the general mindset the hardcore jihadi's are into, they just dont go and attack people or whatever.

This was all covered in depth in my thread which flowed after i watched this clip:
ainstream Islam Is The Antithesis Of Western Liberal Values (BY THE NUMBERS)



Now after you've soaked that in, that whole 'concentric rings of ideological support of extremist values' concept Sam Harris talks about, well I see the exact same thing going on with the liberal base. Sure, maybe only 5-15% of liberals are goosestepping around, but then some half of the rest of them are cool with it, and the general logic that drives them its just rampant across Mainstream American Liberalism.

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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: introvert

You should take a real good look at the tail end of the OP.

That thing about how people like I'm talking about if this were 1930's Nazi Germany they'd be shouting that it wasn't the fault of the Nazi's and their propaganda apparatus that people were out gangstalking Jews, well that's you 101%.

It's not Mainstream Global Islam's Sharia ideology of the fundamentalism that inherently gives rise to the "Dark Sise of Islam" kind of logic.

It's not BLM's fault they're movement has whites being openly hunted on the streets (FOR STARTERS).

It's not CRT's fault SJW's exhibit a natural tendency to be violent fascists.

It's not the MSM & Hollyweird's fault that people are being radicalized to go and hunt Republican politicians, etc. We just discussed this the other day so dont even play coy with me here.

It's all in the site, its all on record. All of the above.

I've got the whole logic pegged: its never the fountainheads fault for their movement turning radical. Its always the individuals fault. Meaning in Nazi Germany it would have been the commoner gangstalkers faults for their thuggery, not the fault of the Nazi's.

And that's BS.

You might let all my words herein sink in without jumping to react. Apologism on this scale is enablement. And people are DYING now.




posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



That thing about how people like I'm talking about if this were 1930's Nazi Germany they'd be shouting that it wasn't the fault of the Nazi's and their propaganda apparatus that people were out gangstalking Jews, well that's you 101%.


I did not say anything about such nonsense and I do not have to account for it. That's on you.



It's not BLM's fault they're movement has whites being openly hunted on the streets (FOR STARTERS).


You're right. It's on the shoulders of the individuals that do so.



It's not CRT's fault SJW's exhibit a natural tendency to be violent fascists.


You're right. CRT is a matter pertaining to race, culture and law. In your case, you are projecting.



It's not the MSM & Hollyweird's fault that people are being radicalized to go and hunt Republican politicians, etc. We just discussed this the other day so dont even play coy with me here.


Once again, you are blaming groups for the acts of the individual to suit your political narrative.



It's all in the site, its all on record. All of the above.


Not accurately and intelligently.



I've got the whole logic pegged: its never the fountainheads fault for their movement turning radical. Its always the individuals fault. Meaning in Nazi Germany it would have been the commoner gangstalkers faults for their thuggery, not the fault of the Nazi's.

And that's BS.


The Nazi's were the military component of the fascist state itself. They followed orders and did what they were told.

You cannot compare that to the acts of individuals that commit their actions on their own without direction from the state.



You might let all my words herein sink in without jumping to react. Apologism on this scale is enablement. And people are DYING now.


I did. You are using an appeal to emotion, which is illogical.

More propaganda on your part and false equivalencies.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Ben Affleck seemed to be rude. Anyway I could read most of what they said and got the general idea. (The google subtitles are usually good but don't always get it right).

Nobody is denying that there are radical Muslims and that they are a constant threat to the world.
I've never heard of anyone denying that. And as to the claim that most liberals are cool with it? Just because that man said so?



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Wiggle all you want: I've been observing you for a year and the results are conclusive: If you were in Nazi Germany, when the citizens stormed the Jews and smashed their properties all up, you'd have been in 'wherever' writing articles about how it wasn't the fault of the Nazi's anti-Jew propaganda campaign that radicalized them.

You'd be spinning it all as it was only the individuals to blame. And that those individuals were only a few bad apples out doing it. It wasn't the Nazi movements fault. It didn't represent the Nazi movement. It wasn't Hitler's fault. It wasn't Goebbels fault. It wasn't the Nazi Party's fault. It wasn't National Socialism's fault. It wasn't etc etc etc fault. If they had Internet then you'd be in your favorite forum derailing thread after thread along these lines.

You know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'd like to think you never saw it this way, and that you might introspect about it. I have hope for you.




Kristallnacht
Kristallnacht, also referred to as the Night of Broken Glass, ...was a pogrom against Jews throughout Nazi Germany on 9–10 November 1938, carried out by SA paramilitary forces and German civilians. German authorities looked on without intervening. The name Kristallnacht comes from the shards of broken glass that littered the streets after the windows of Jewish-owned stores, buildings, and synagogues were smashed.

Estimates of the number of fatalities caused by the pogrom have varied. Early reporting estimated that 91 Jewish people were murdered during the attacks.[3] Modern analysis of German scholarly sources by historians such as Richard J. Evans puts the number much higher. When deaths from post-arrest maltreatment and subsequent suicides are included, the death toll climbs into the hundreds. Additionally, 30,000 Jewish men were arrested and incarcerated in Nazi concentration camps.

Jewish homes, hospitals, and schools were ransacked, as the attackers demolished buildings with sledgehammers. Over 1,000 synagogues were burned (95 in Vienna alone) and over 7,000 Jewish businesses were either destroyed or damaged. Martin Gilbert writes that no event in the history of German Jews between 1933 and 1945 was so widely reported as it was happening, and the accounts from the foreign journalists working in Germany sent shock waves around the world. The Times wrote at the time: "No foreign propagandist bent upon blackening Germany before the world could outdo the tale of burnings and beatings, of blackguardly assaults on defenseless and innocent people, which disgraced that country yesterday."


This is about where we are in America RIGHT NOW.

How many years after the Kristallnacht was it before they started loading them into trains?



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So melodramatic.

Is it really that bad?



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:13 PM
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Wiggle all you want: I've been observing you for a year and the results are conclusive: If you were in Nazi Germany, when the citizens stormed the Jews and smashed their properties all up, you'd have been in 'wherever' writing articles about how it wasn't the fault of the Nazi's anti-Jew propaganda campaign that radicalized them.


No need to wiggle. You're powers of "observation" are lacking. While I was in "wherever", I'd be blaming the directives of the state that commanded them to do what they did.

That is not what is happening here.



You'd be spinning it all as it was only the individuals to blame. And that those individuals were only a few bad apples out doing it. It wasn't the Nazi movements fault. It didn't represent the Nazi movement. It wasn't Hitler's fault. It wasn't Goebbels fault. It wasn't the Nazi Party's fault. It wasn't National Socialism's fault. It wasn't etc etc etc fault. If they had Internet then you'd be in your favorite forum derailing thread after thread along these lines.


You're not even making logical comparisons. Are you ok?

These actions are not directives from a national leader, or a party head. It makes no sense.



You know exactly what I'm talking about.


I do. You're talking complete bull#.



I'd like to think you never saw it this way, and that you might introspect about it. I have hope for you.


You assume I give a damn about your hope. Ignorance and stupidity have no place in my introspection.



This is about where we are in America RIGHT NOW. How many years after the Kristallnacht was it before they started loading them into trains?


Another appeal to emotion. Utter nonsense.

Get a grip dude.

You are on the outer reaches of nuttery.
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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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I've seen you argue across perhaps thousands of posts in every topic in my OP, in every single instance (BLM in particular, but also the MSM with the Congress shooter, Islam, etc), every single time essentially every single atrocity you pop in and start more or less derailing the threads about how it wasnt the fault of the social movement fountainheads, or the ideology itself (generally you FLAT OUT DENY the ideologies even exist as the ultimate preemptive shield move), and so on.

And the comparison is spot on because all that flowed from Nazi Germany rule, that was THEIR social movement. They with their propaganda apparatus and ideology and political power moves stirred up a hornets nest of rabid supporters whom set about blowing up the world and decimating the Jews, and they nearly succeeded. It's almost too perfect, as in here now on the spot you're actually excusing the Nazi Party for the social movement and civil fallout they created with their brand and its marketing campaign.

Political campaigns and social movements or Communist Revolutions or corporate craze campaigns are hardly distinguishable.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
I do. You're talking complete bull#.


Defend, deflect, derail, deny, if not outright support....

Here's a few examples of the top of my head:
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Exhibit C

That's without even digging into my threads.

I'd bet just about every breaking active attack thread, every BLM thread, etc, all last year you can be found in them doing the same old hatchet job. And similar work in every other liberal radicalism / SJW thread.

Damn are you a complete waste of time to try to reason with. The intellectual dishonesty with you has to be in the top 25 all time list in this site; I'm talking on par wit the 9/11 No Planer lunatics.

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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Which ones do you want us to focus on?



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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I've seen you argue across perhaps thousands of posts in every topic in my OP, in every single instance (BLM in particular, but also the MSM with the Congress shooter, Islam, etc), every single time essentially every single atrocity you pop in and start more or less derailing the threads about how it wasnt the fault of the social movement fountainheads, or the ideology itself (generally you FLAT OUT DENY the ideologies even exist as the ultimate preemptive shield move), and so on.


Sorry you are offended. It's not my responsibility to satisfy your SJW sensibilities.

When you make an applicable comparison, I will agree. Until then, you get what you deserve. You are pushing a propaganda narrative that makes no sense.



And the comparison is spot on because all that flowed from Nazi Germany rule, that was THEIR social movement. They with their propaganda apparatus and ideology and political power moves stirred up a hornets nest of rabid supporters whom set about blowing up the world and decimating the Jews, and they nearly succeeded.


All directed from the state to an army willing to do as instructed. Not a good comparison.



Political campaigns and social movements or Communist Revolutions or corporate craze campaigns are hardly distinguishable.


It appears you have no clue what you are talking about.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:39 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

It's all int here.

I dont talk out of my ass, I'm extremely stringent about never being wrong. You can all hate me all you want but it doesnt mean I'm wrong. And my analysis here isn't a matter of opinion. Neither is this statement: I could post 25 thread examples, quotes the whole way down the page, and he'd still come in here and DENY it all, wouldn't budge a millimeter, and would do the wall of microquotes thing just to make it tedious. Then I were to respond with 200 more thread examples he'd do it all over again. Like a pathological liar. Unless maybe he'd get bored with it.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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Read my posts above. I've been talking specific to the citizen hordes attacking Jews for sport thing.

With the consolation climax of it erupting into the Nazi war on the World. The attacking the Jews thing came first. All components of their Nazi Social Political Movement. Which did happen to trigger world war. And all of Germany had to be leveled to put an end to it. And after my dealings with you I now fully understand why.

Alright now go ahead and 'get the last word'. I'm done feeding you. I hate liars and the intellectual dishonestly with you isnt even at least humorous.
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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

It's a long read. I don't want to waste my time reading through only to find nothing or not knowing what you want me to focus on. How about one example. Two?
The BEST examples.


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posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:45 PM
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Defend, deflect, derail, deny, if not outright support.... Here's a few examples of the top of my head: Exhibit A Exhibit B Exhibit C


Dear lord...you are a nut.



I'd bet just about every breaking active attack thread, every BLM thread, etc, all last year you can be found in them doing the same old hatchet job. And similar work in every other liberal radicalism / SJW thread.


Stupid bet.



Damn are you a complete waste of time to try to reason with. The intellectual dishonesty with you has to be in the top 25 all time list in this site; I'm talking on par wit the 9/11 No Planer lunatics.


What a horrible and lazy insult. Didn't give that much thought, did you?

Oh well. Nuts will be nuts.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:45 PM
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Trust me, it's a waste of time. Times too valuable. Read hsi posts in here he's several posts in now excusing the Nazi Political Social Movement for what their propaganda / social engineering turned the people of Germany into. You'll start seeing what I'm getting on about in this thread moving forward, I'm fully confident of it.




posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I dont talk out of my ass,

I see you talking out of your ass in the first post of exhibit B


If the Democrat party isn't racist then explain why it is they've haven't dismantled the War On Drugs yet.


to which introvert responds:

I don't believe there is any political party that is racist, or who's principles are based on racism. Only individuals within the parties are racist. That goes for both Dems, Reps or whatever party you can think of.


I'm not going to look further if that is the kind of proof you have.



posted on Jun, 21 2017 @ 11:49 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Deaf Alien

It's all int here.

I dont talk out of my ass, I'm extremely stringent about never being wrong. You can all hate me all you want but it doesnt mean I'm wrong. And my analysis here isn't a matter of opinion. Neither is this statement: I could post 25 thread examples, quotes the whole way down the page, and he'd still come in here and DENY it all, wouldn't budge a millimeter, and would do the wall of microquotes thing just to make it tedious. Then I were to respond with 200 more thread examples he'd do it all over again. Like a pathological liar. Unless maybe he'd get bored with it.


You would post examples of your own threads to feed your ego.

Just stop.

You're drunk or stupid and this has become embarrassing.



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