Trump just sold us all out on drug pricing

originally posted by: zerozero00
a reply to: thesaneone
Hand outs?
What the F*** is up with you lot?...Its small change to help people survive...of course I stood in benefit queues for hours hoping to get some help, have you no empathy? no compassion for the less fortunate? I suffered and was close to suicide because life was so difficult, my eldest is 29 and I have 4 grandchildren, I'm lucky I had the strength to cope and not top myself as that seemed a lot easier than living on benefits, my saving grace was that I had good survival instincts and I'm not stupid, the same cant be said for everyone and I'm willing to help those that cant help themselves!

Why are people so selfish today when the world is lush and full of food and water??

Just because people don't want the government to mandate hand outs doesn't mean people won't be generous and pay it forward. People place too much trust in government. I don't trust the government one bit.

a reply to: Throes
Stupid statement

The government run your life, your home, business, children, you, education, health, wealth, peace...You make me sick!!

originally posted by: zerozero00
a reply to: Throes
Stupid statement

The government run your life, your home, business, children, you, education, health, wealth, peace...You make me sick!!

Oh, the government runs my life? No, I am responsible for running my own life. I don't have any government benefits, I just pay into them.

What makes me sick is people trusting government so much. Just look at these idiots we have in charge everywhere!

originally posted by: allsee4eye
Free market guarantees the lowest prices possible. We all know GOP is against government setting prices rather than market setting prices. How is this a surprise to anyone?

free market??...no such thing, there are controlled markets....."free market" is an euphemism for "not a monopoly"....just like when the wall street "explainers" tell the masses that there is "uncertainty" in the stock market, so corporations are holding back on hiring....."uncertainty" has ALWAYS been in the stock market, you wouldn't have any losers if there wasn't.

by the way, where's trump on the fact that Ford motors is now moving it's Ford Focus plant from Michigan to china?...I read the press release and it said that it will be building another plant there to build a small truck, so Ford said there will be no jobs lost....huh?.....if they kept the focus here, AND built the new plant, there would be more jobs. how they can say that there won't be any jobs lost. that's what "spin" looks like

a reply to: Throes

Trusting government?

You lot voted Trump ffs


You pay into a system you have no interest in other than not handing out to the poor?

I don't get yanks, what about tax breaks to the rich? subsides to the wealthy so they supposedly spend more?
The war machine?..."ooohhh lets celebrated those that died in illegal n immoral wars to feed the super rich but f*** those dying on welfare, the poor need to die off quickly so I don't have to pay a nickel towards their survival", your moral compass is so off in the US its quite scary

originally posted by: zerozero00
a reply to: Throes

Trusting government?

You lot voted Trump ffs


You pay into a system you have no interest in other than not handing out to the poor?

I don't get yanks, what about tax breaks to the rich? subsides to the wealthy so they supposedly spend more?
The war machine?..."ooohhh lets celebrated those that died in illegal n immoral wars to feed the super rich but f*** those dying on welfare, the poor need to die off quickly so I don't have to pay a nickel towards their survival", your moral compass is so off in the US its quite scary

I voted for Trump? Good to know..since I didn't, I voted for Johnson and the only Repub I'd vote for is Rand Paul.

But nice assumption you made. Notice the two guys I would vote for are anti interventionist and tax breaks for all. Both want to lessen government, however..


I pay into a broken and insufficient system which literally is on the shoulders of the middle class to support. However, I also understand the rich take risks to enable jobs and corporations provide many jobs as well.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Jefferton
Durrrrrrrrr Trump good, Trump do good!

- Average Trump Supporter

Way to add to the conversation!

Now why don't you go play outside and let the grownups talk.

Bill Hicks would have detested Trump.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Jefferton
Durrrrrrrrr Trump good, Trump do good!

- Average Trump Supporter

Way to add to the conversation!

Now why don't you go play outside and let the grownups talk.

Bill Hicks would have detested Trump.

And probably would have hated you too.

Whats your point?

originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: zerozero00
a reply to: Throes
Stupid statement

The government run your life, your home, business, children, you, education, health, wealth, peace...You make me sick!!

Oh, the government runs my life? No, I am responsible for running my own life. I don't have any government benefits, I just pay into them.

What makes me sick is people trusting government so much. Just look at these idiots we have in charge everywhere!

You KNOW...

The Gov sometimes actually GIVES us MORE power.

If I don't LIKE my ISP...I'm screwed. However,, if my city decides to start their own...I can at least VOTE for people who I think will REPRESENT me and my interests in that ISP.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Jefferton
Durrrrrrrrr Trump good, Trump do good!

- Average Trump Supporter

Way to add to the conversation!

Now why don't you go play outside and let the grownups talk.

Bill Hicks would have detested Trump.

Bill Hicks is now Alex Jones.

a reply to: Throes
This is the problem, the world needs to see the true cause of all the ills we see today see it for what it is!...I know the UK is a bit of an unknown to you lot but there is a revolution happening and you better be watching!

We (UK) know the problem of globalisation, even the OAP's are seeing it, 70% of the youth voted in the 2017 GE compared to 58% in 2015, all for Labour (socialism) ...the MSM over here is extremely right wing with Murdoch a big player and string puller and he is losing it...If you don't come together in solidarity and fight against the right then you become a pawn in the game, they will use your bigotry, hatred, prejudice and anything else they can get.
Americans need to realise that none of the string pullers over there will pull for you, unless you're a billionaire, millionaire or apart of the system in another department than money...it needs to change, no more status quo!

a reply to: DanteGaland

Instead, drug companies would be in line to get more power to charge monopoly prices OVERSEAS

MEANING... if our country invents an innovative approach to a current disease or condition - our country would implement.. come kind of sanctions.. that allow the company holding the intellectual property patent to profit from THEIR invention/creation/etc.

Further... bc you have to go through two or three sources to get to the source which actually created the report.. meaning 4 pages of lazzzzzyyyy mofos... cough*

Promoting competition in the U.S. drug market — both by “modernizing our regulatory and reimbursement systems” and limiting “barrier to entry, including the cost of research and development,” according to the documents.

khn.org... proposals/

MEANING IF THEY DO ALLOW THE PATENTS WHICH WERE COPIED BY OVERSEAS PHARMA CO.s to be IMPORTED (which .. ummm idk if you know.. was not allowed...) now WILL be allowed so long as they give US competitive prices... the quote above says: PROMOTING COMPETITION in us drug market bot by. blah blah.. AND LIMITING (Meaning putting limits on the ..) BARRIER TO ENTRY!(meaning ... exonational companies will be ALLOWED to market in the US at lower prices (bc.. making drugs in Bulgaria is cheap as #) which then will be sold to US!!!) ..

I mean i don't know, I'm only a third yeard med student.. so please correct me if my drunk baffling during the 15 min of my time which i have free to share my views with you.. but isn't that beneficial to the US????


okay furthermore....

Value-based pricing, when pharmaceutical companies keep the list prices of drugs unchanged but offer rebates if patients don’t improve.

khn.org... proposals/

SO INNEFFECTIVE drugs.. (meaning probably by a standard of if

yea.. i made a longer thread it wouldnt let me.. what a pos

originally posted by: DanteGaland

originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: zerozero00
a reply to: Throes
Stupid statement

The government run your life, your home, business, children, you, education, health, wealth, peace...You make me sick!!

Oh, the government runs my life? No, I am responsible for running my own life. I don't have any government benefits, I just pay into them.

What makes me sick is people trusting government so much. Just look at these idiots we have in charge everywhere!

You KNOW...

The Gov sometimes actually GIVES us MORE power.

If I don't LIKE my ISP...I'm screwed. However,, if my city decides to start their own...I can at least VOTE for people who I think will REPRESENT me and my interests in that ISP.

No, if you are talking ISP's, they are regulated to the point that competition is scarce so we have to deal with what we have. If the government got out of the way, we would have more choices, lower prices, and more competitive service....

3 ineffective drugs. (idk why i keep going.. guess its the pos. of patients.. out there.. )
Value-based pricing, when pharmaceutical companies keep the list prices of drugs unchanged but offer rebates if patients don’t improve.

meaning if its under 60% effect. offer rebates to .. PATIENT (nott too bad)

4.Grogan and Shapiro also discussed issuing 10-year U.S. Treasury bonds to drug manufacturers to pay for expensive, hepatitis C drugs like Sovaldi and Harvoni under Medicare and Medicaid, to avoid rationing drugs to the sickest patients.

thats means drugies dont get their hands on.. hep c is really.. hard to come by unless you travel or hospital environ.

5.recommendations on expediting generic drug approvals, creating a new tax credit “of up to 50 percent” for investments in generic drug manufacturing,

meaning brand drugs arent better than generic.. (omg no #?)

Ya missed the title of the entire page - OPINION
Reads in a different light now , doesnt it ?
By a Linette Lopez (whats in a name , right ?) A known far left liberal.
Yes , even Business Insider will let any Glory Hound publish OPINIONS

6.? Under the subtitle, “Encourage Use of 21st Century Tools for Drug Evaluation, Review and Approval,” one handout proposes the FDA use less rigorous clinical trial standards to speed drug approvals.

LESS RIGOROUS CLINICAL TRIALS.. no #!!..

if youre dieing.. agree to be an experiment bc.. helll it may help you.. if not at least you die for good cause.. honestly wtf...

nother quote from OPs source of source of source which chose to only highlight the neg... aspects...

The handout cites a PhRMA paper from March 2016 that includes an identical subtitle, “Encourage Use of 21st Century Tools for Drug Evaluation, Review and Approval,” and recommends the FDA implement less rigorous clinical trial standards.

and lastly... if you have HEP c... go and print a new liver.. honestly... its not that hard to modify a HP inkjet with some hepatocytes on some scaffold.. .. i can do it.. well overseas.. you know.. license and regulations.. otherwise id do it for the f of it.. cheers