What Level Of Skill Was Required To Fly A Plane Into The Pentagon ?

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Jacobu12

Explain GTE what is that?

This is another perfect example of why you should not be arguing for the conspiracy side.
You have very little knowledge of basic life outside of a keyboard.
Your lack of knowledge allows you to lead astray by glittery websites.


GTE is a phone company.

And should know that why?

a reply to: Jacobu12

Yeah, we will know. YOU might not, but people that actually read, and believe, the rules for BTS will. As quoted many pages ago, BTS statistics are reported by each airline. If they don't report the flight, or the departure time, it doesn't get listed.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

Yeah, we will know. YOU might not, but people that actually read, and believe, the rules for BTS will. As quoted many pages ago, BTS statistics are reported by each airline. If they don't report the flight, or the departure time, it doesn't get listed.

Why would they report a flight 77 if it don't exist? Is that not the conspiracy angle? If you believe a flight 77 existed you believe everything you said is correct on this.

Remember this information came out years after 9/11 under a freedom of information request..

a reply to: Jacobu12

They were the company that ran the Airfone network. In other words, ATT, says their phones were still installed and operating on 9/11. So, in your world that means that ATT was part of the conspiracy as well.

a reply to: Jacobu12

I'm impressed. I wondered how you'd justify it, but that is some impressive circular logic. I'm not surprised you'd ignore anything but "BTS says it didn't exist, and nothing you can say will change that".

a reply to: Jacobu12

Well, if you are going to indirectly accuse them as being complicit in a cover up, then you probably should know who they are. Of course, unless, we are discussing half-a**ed allegations made based on something you read on a website......

originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: Jacobu12

They were the company that ran the Airfone network. In other words, GTE, says their phones were still installed and operating on 9/11. So, in your world that means that GTE was part of the conspiracy as well.

Renee May the flight attendant used a cell phone i believe, not an airphone. And we got 1 call that did not connect that was alleged to be Barbara Olson. Would make sense it would unconnect if there was disconnection with the system.

Then we got 4 unknown calls. Again no telephone record has ever been produced to verify those calls. So without verification you can't trace the calls to a source or location. Ted Olson office was the department of justice. It would not take him long to find a bill for this, but he never has!

a reply to: Jacobu12

If the phones were disconnected they wouldn't even try top connect. There would be no way for anyone to even dial the number. You wouldn't get a failed to connect, you'd get nothing. No signal going out at all.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

If the phones were disconnected they wouldn't even try top connect. There would be no way for anyone to even dial the number. You wouldn't get a failed to connect, you'd get nothing. No signal going out at all.

They had a service up and running before 9/11, so could they still dial an operator somehow? The call did not go through, why not nobody answered. The only way to confirms Ted Olson story is a telephone bill! 15+ years he hasn't produced the evidence, and he's well aware people are calling him a liar. Why is he so reluctant to shut up the doubters? He should care there people are out there saying he never spoke to he's dead wife on 9/11..

a reply to: Jacobu12

Again no telephone record has ever been produced to verify those calls.

Have you gotten to that low of a point where you are using phone records to prove a conspiracy was afoot?

Try adding up the minimum number of people needed to pull off 911.
Then ask yourself if it's possible for that many people to keep silent for 16 years.

originally posted by: Jacobu12

Captain Ralph Kolstad

And who does Ralph work for

?

originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: Jacobu12

Captain Ralph Kolstad

And who does Ralph work for

?

B757/767 for 13 years mostly international captain with American Airlines

a reply to: Jacobu12

So what if they had them before. Once a phone is disconnected you can't pick it up and put a call through. If they really were disconnected at most they would have gotten an error message and no call would have shown as going through.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Jacobu12

Again no telephone record has ever been produced to verify those calls.

Have you gotten to that low of a point where you are using phone records to prove a conspiracy was afoot?

Try adding up the minimum number of people needed to pull off 911.
Then ask yourself if it's possible for that many people to keep silent for 16 years.

I don't need to prove a conspiracy, thats already proven with the cover up of the 29 pages for 16 years by the White house and CIA role with two of the Hijackers that we know about. We just don't how deep the conspiracy goes?

a reply to: Jacobu12

Once again, in the Zacarias Moussaoui trial, the FBI stated that based on their interviews and examination of records that four of the "unknown" calls were from Barbra Olson, to her husband Ted. The defense, accepted this information....which turns it into EVIDENCE. Now, we have Ted's secretary who stated that it was Barbara, we have a DoJ assistant who said it was Barbra, and we also have ATT employees who said they took phone calls from a female using an Airfone assigned to the airframe known as Flight 77 that asked them to put her through to (202) 514-2201 (Ted Olson's office). Now, who else would it be calling Ted Olson's office from Flight 77?

FBI notes/reports on 9/11 calls
www.911myths.com...

Interview notes from ATT employees listing the number requested as (202) 514-2201.
www.911myths.com...

So, again, just how many people do you now have in your conspiracy?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

So what if they had them before. Once a phone is disconnected you can't pick it up and put a call through. If they really were disconnected at most they would have gotten an error message and no call would have shown as going through.

We can rule out Renee she made a cell call/mobile..

We left with Ted Olson claims after that. We know she tried to make an airphone call and they likely where still installed maybe? She failed to connect to a caller she has a bill of O seconds.. So there wasn't even a call really, there just a registered number on a bill, at her seat.

4 unknown call can't be verified. We actually have no evidence at all Barbara spoke to anyone that day, a paper trail of evidence to confirm Ted Olson story.

a reply to: Jacobu12

You might want to read my post. The only people who refuse to accept that Barbra Olson called her husband from Flight 77 are people who refuse to research the truth.

originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: Jacobu12

Once again, in the Zacarias Moussaoui trial, the FBI stated that based on their interviews and examination of records that four of the "unknown" calls were from Barbra Olson, to her husband Ted. The defense, accepted this information....which turns it into EVIDENCE. Now, we have Ted's secretary who stated that it was Barbara, we have a DoJ assistant who said it was Barbra, and we also have ATT employees who said they took phone calls from a female using an Airfone assigned to the airframe known as Flight 77 that asked them to put her through to (202) 514-2201 (Ted Olson's office). Now, who else would it be calling Ted Olson's office from Flight 77?

FBI notes/reports on 9/11 calls
www.911myths.com...

Interview notes from ATT employees listing the number requested as (202) 514-2201.
www.911myths.com...

So, again, just how many people do you now have in your conspiracy?

It can't be difficult to produce a telephone bill for 4 calls on 9/11 at 9 to 10 am. You got to accept Ted Olson and he's secretary word only, that's not good enough. Ted Olson could have lied because he's an asshole there is always a possibility of that, and flight 77 really did get hijacked. But it's the unknown that fuels the conspiracy.

a reply to: Jacobu12

So they DID still have phones installed then. Interesting way of arguing there.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

So they DID still have phones installed then. Interesting way of arguing there.

It's easier to turn off the phone service. Phone can still be installed just not taken out yet,.

But as of today we have no telephone/print out that shows any airphone calls connected that day.