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What Level Of Skill Was Required To Fly A Plane Into The Pentagon ?

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posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

No I didn't. I never agreed with you, I said that your image agrees with what I quoted that 50 columns were damaged in total. I never said only 4 were damaged. I also said you could only SEE 4,but that didn't mean it was only 4.


You wrote
Ah yes, the "if there's not a picture of it, it didn't happen" argument. We SEE 4-5 in one picture.

First floor is the impact point, the columns next area is irrelevant. There has to be 8 columns broken at first floor, the photograph proves the government version of events is false.
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posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: Pilgrum
a reply to: Jacobu12
White or silver (reflective)?
otion/focus blurred RWB stripes look purplishM
Looks very close to the ground as well




The video with the motion/focus blurred RWB stripes look purplish thing is fake or uploaded by someone its fakery.

We have the original video, it just shows a white blob object enter the frame.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Jacobu12

Yes, which isn't agreeing with you. We see 4-5, that doesn't mean there aren't others we can't see that are damaged.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:43 PM
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www.youtube.com... original.

White object maybe some blue, hard to tell?
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posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: Pilgrum
a reply to: Jacobu12
White or silver (reflective)?
otion/focus blurred RWB stripes look purplishM
Looks very close to the ground as well




The video with the motion/focus blurred RWB stripes look purplish thing is fake or uploaded by someone its fakery.

We have the original video, it just shows a white blob object enter the frame.


Again, because the image was taken through a fish eyed lens. It makes straight lines look curved. It makes things in the center of the frame look closer than the objects on the edge of the frame. Like how you act this has never been pointed out in this thread...



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

Yes, which isn't agreeing with you. We see 4-5, that doesn't mean there aren't others we can't see that are damaged.


They have to be row - first floor. You have to count 8 first floor side to side. I only see 4 or 5 broken columns not 8.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: Pilgrum
a reply to: Jacobu12
White or silver (reflective)?
otion/focus blurred RWB stripes look purplishM
Looks very close to the ground as well




The video with the motion/focus blurred RWB stripes look purplish thing is fake or uploaded by someone its fakery.

We have the original video, it just shows a white blob object enter the frame.


Again, because the image was taken through a fish eyed lens. It makes straight lines look curved. It makes things in the center of the frame look closer than the objects on the edge of the frame. Like how you act this has never been pointed out in this thread...


Colors are easy to make out. You even see a patrol car passing its white, easy to spot. The blob is a new object that enters the frame and it's clear that white blob was not present before. When it appears it appears white. Flight 77 was a silver/blue color shell.
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posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12

I am just pointing out that if the wings and fuselage were structural comprised do to exceeding speed limits, the few the broken columns indicates the more correct you were in flight 77 was braking apart...... or did you not argue flight 77 should have structural failure?


If a plane crashed there 8 columns would have got smashed and thats what they reported. Only 4 or 5 are broken and missing. So something smaller than a 757 hit the wall or a bomb blast blew from inside the Pentagon.


For the bomb....


Then why was everything pushed in? The entrance hole was pushed in. The items in the construction yard were pushed in towards the pentagon? Why was there no interior of the pentagon exploded out. Why were windows in the pentagon not exploded out. Why no crater or pitting in the concrete floors conspiracists say were undamaged. Why were the columns not broken in a patten of a sphere or cone. A blast wave gets wider and less intense with distance. How was a smaller and smaller hole knocked through the sequence of walls. Why was there no indication of an over pressure event caused by a bomb as in no near by car windows blown out or near by vegetation blown over.

Almost all eyewitnesses agree to a large jet impact.....


prnt.sc... the front area was damaged a lot, it's a myth it wasn't.


Your being intellectually dishonest again. Quote where I ever posted there was no damage.

No you cite the evidence of a bomb or missile detonating?


Or refute the works by Scientists for 9/11 that states and proves virtually all other theories besides large jet impact are impossible.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: Jacobu12

Because the others were behind wall that was still intact when that picture was taken. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not damaged.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

Because the others were behind wall that was still intact when that picture was taken. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not damaged.


There still intact you can see one still standing first floor that's one of the eight columns, they said was broken.
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posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12

I am just pointing out that if the wings and fuselage were structural comprised do to exceeding speed limits, the few the broken columns indicates the more correct you were in flight 77 was braking apart...... or did you not argue flight 77 should have structural failure?


If a plane crashed there 8 columns would have got smashed and thats what they reported. Only 4 or 5 are broken and missing. So something smaller than a 757 hit the wall or a bomb blast blew from inside the Pentagon.


For the bomb....


Then why was everything pushed in? The entrance hole was pushed in. The items in the construction yard were pushed in towards the pentagon? Why was there no interior of the pentagon exploded out. Why were windows in the pentagon not exploded out. Why no crater or pitting in the concrete floors conspiracists say were undamaged. Why were the columns not broken in a patten of a sphere or cone. A blast wave gets wider and less intense with distance. How was a smaller and smaller hole knocked through the sequence of walls. Why was there no indication of an over pressure event caused by a bomb as in no near by car windows blown out or near by vegetation blown over.

Almost all eyewitnesses agree to a large jet impact.....


prnt.sc... the front area was damaged a lot, it's a myth it wasn't.


Your being intellectually dishonest again. Quote where I ever posted there was no damage.

No you cite the evidence of a bomb or missile detonating?


Or refute the works by Scientists for 9/11 that states and proves virtually all other theories besides large jet impact are impossible.


You said there was no evidence of explosion or damage outside and can't be bothered to go look for it now.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:53 PM
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a reply to: Jacobu12

You can have a damaged column that you can't see behind the wall. You can't tell that they're still intact by looking at the wall. Unless you're claiming now that you have x-ray vision.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: Jacobu12

Funny. White and silver can look off due to how a camera white balances, or how the camera compensates for lighting contrast and shadows. Silver is reflective. Ever think there might be a large building being reflected in the silver made to look off by how the camera is white balancing, compensation for contrast and shadows?



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12

I am just pointing out that if the wings and fuselage were structural comprised do to exceeding speed limits, the few the broken columns indicates the more correct you were in flight 77 was braking apart...... or did you not argue flight 77 should have structural failure?


If a plane crashed there 8 columns would have got smashed and thats what they reported. Only 4 or 5 are broken and missing. So something smaller than a 757 hit the wall or a bomb blast blew from inside the Pentagon.


For the bomb....


Then why was everything pushed in? The entrance hole was pushed in. The items in the construction yard were pushed in towards the pentagon? Why was there no interior of the pentagon exploded out. Why were windows in the pentagon not exploded out. Why no crater or pitting in the concrete floors conspiracists say were undamaged. Why were the columns not broken in a patten of a sphere or cone. A blast wave gets wider and less intense with distance. How was a smaller and smaller hole knocked through the sequence of walls. Why was there no indication of an over pressure event caused by a bomb as in no near by car windows blown out or near by vegetation blown over.

Almost all eyewitnesses agree to a large jet impact.....


prnt.sc... the front area was damaged a lot, it's a myth it wasn't.


Your being intellectually dishonest again. Quote where I ever posted there was no damage.

No you cite the evidence of a bomb or missile detonating?


Or refute the works by Scientists for 9/11 that states and proves virtually all other theories besides large jet impact are impossible.


You said there was no evidence of explosion or damage outside and can't be bothered to go look for it now.


What evidence is there of a bomb or an explosive warhead detonating. Big difference than collision damage. Should be demolitions shrapnel in near by trailers, cars, walls, human remains, and blown out windows......
edit on 17-7-2017 by neutronflux because: Fixed wording



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

You can have a damaged column that you can't see behind the wall. You can't tell that they're still intact by looking at the wall. Unless you're claiming now that you have x-ray vision.


You working overtime lol to find something. The photograph is clean not blurry picture, damage at the first floor is noticeable there is nothing hidden we can't see. Take a look again,



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12

I am just pointing out that if the wings and fuselage were structural comprised do to exceeding speed limits, the few the broken columns indicates the more correct you were in flight 77 was braking apart...... or did you not argue flight 77 should have structural failure?


If a plane crashed there 8 columns would have got smashed and thats what they reported. Only 4 or 5 are broken and missing. So something smaller than a 757 hit the wall or a bomb blast blew from inside the Pentagon.


For the bomb....


Then why was everything pushed in? The entrance hole was pushed in. The items in the construction yard were pushed in towards the pentagon? Why was there no interior of the pentagon exploded out. Why were windows in the pentagon not exploded out. Why no crater or pitting in the concrete floors conspiracists say were undamaged. Why were the columns not broken in a patten of a sphere or cone. A blast wave gets wider and less intense with distance. How was a smaller and smaller hole knocked through the sequence of walls. Why was there no indication of an over pressure event caused by a bomb as in no near by car windows blown out or near by vegetation blown over.

Almost all eyewitnesses agree to a large jet impact.....


prnt.sc... the front area was damaged a lot, it's a myth it wasn't.


Your being intellectually dishonest again. Quote where I ever posted there was no damage.

No you cite the evidence of a bomb or missile detonating?


Or refute the works by Scientists for 9/11 that states and proves virtually all other theories besides large jet impact are impossible.


You said there was no evidence of explosion or damage outside and can't be bothered to go look for it now.


What evidence is there of a bomb or an explosive warhead detonating. Big difference than collision damage. Should be demolitions shrapnel in near by trailers, cars, walls, human remains, and blown out windows......


Exit hole? The damage to the different rings inside the building? Damage outside the building. Roof collapsing a blast would go upwards and damage the other floors.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: Jacobu12

I have looked. Why do you think they do ultrasound, and other non visual inspections on bridge pilings? Because you can't look at them and see if they're damaged. You can look at that picture under a microscope and still not tell if some of those columns are damaged.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Jacobu12

Isn't the estimate that complete failure of at least 8 columns would produce immediate collapse?
But the collapse wasn't immediate, it took a little time for fire to weaken the badly damaged but still just hanging in there additional columns to fall apart under the excessive load transferred to them.



posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12

Funny. White and silver can look off due to how a camera white balances, or how the camera compensates for lighting contrast and shadows. Silver is reflective. Ever think there might be a large building being reflected in the silver made to look off by how the camera is white balancing, compensation for contrast and shadows?


Say you are wrong it is a white object? This easily be tested at the Pentagon. Use a camera like it the one used 2001, summer day, and place object with similar metal at the same distance and record the object. If the body is silver, and it shines white you got a point. If it just looks silver and blue game over.
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posted on Jul, 17 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Jacobu12

Funny. White and silver can look off due to how a camera white balances, or how the camera compensates for lighting contrast and shadows. Silver is reflective. Ever think there might be a large building being reflected in the silver made to look off by how the camera is white balancing, compensation for contrast and shadows?


Say you are wrong it is a white object? This easily be tested at the Pentagon. Use a camera like it the one used 2001, summer day, and place object with similar metal at the same distance and record the object. If the body is silver, and it shines white you got a point. If it just looks silver and blue game over.


Quote were I ever said it looked white.

Quote were I ever said there was not a lot of damage in front of the pentagon.

If you can reproduce the shot with a object traveling at high speed, go for it.....


edit on 17-7-2017 by neutronflux because: Fixed wording



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