What Level Of Skill Was Required To Fly A Plane Into The Pentagon ?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

There is plane wreckage in that picture. It's from the outer skin of the aircraft, and there were several large pieces.

The arrow for the 1 is a wheel rim, 2 is a piece of tire debris from the plane.

More debris.

More debris.

The pictures are too unclear to make out what it is and again you ignoring what i said. Where is the plane wreckage when it exited the hole?

This doesn't overcome the early pics with no parts on the front area......

Then suddenly the crap is everywhere.....haha...brought it out of the access doors seen on the lawn........concrete with square metal doors open upward, we know how they snuck the parts in.......I have a pic with a burning facade but not a spec on the lawn......say what

a reply to: Jacobu12

Laying right where it was in the picture. Those pictures were taken shortly after the crash. Just because YOU can't identify it, doesn't mean it's not wreckage.

a reply to: Jacobu12

That's what we've been saying for 51 pages. He had basic skills, and a lot of luck.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

Laying right where it was in the picture. Those pictures were taken shortly after the crash. Just because YOU can't identify it, doesn't mean it's not wreckage.

We have a Sep 11 picture of the hole and no plane wreckage there? Plane busted through and exited this hole the wreckage should be easy to spot?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

That's what we've been saying for 51 pages. He had basic skills, and a lot of luck.

I disagree.

Just found this a BTS schedule of flights on 9/11. Why of all days is this plane not listed?

www.serendipity.li...

It interesting that the pvc pipe seems untouched. It must be farther away then it looks in the picture.

originally posted by: Jacobu12

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

Laying right where it was in the picture. Those pictures were taken shortly after the crash. Just because YOU can't identify it, doesn't mean it's not wreckage.

We have a Sep 11 picture of the hole and no plane wreckage there? Plane busted through and exited this hole the wreckage should be easy to spot?

How many walls did the wreckage bust through to get to that point. If it was you, you might be unrecognizable too.

originally posted by: roadgravel
It interesting that the pvc pipe seems untouched. It must be farther away then it looks in the picture.

Looks more like hard pipe wrapped with something with the joints taped.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: roadgravel
It interesting that the pvc pipe seems untouched. It must be farther away then it looks in the picture.

Looks more like hard pipe wrapped with something with the joints taped.

OK, tough wrapping.

Yep, that two days on the down list.......was it just one?

a reply to: Jacobu12

a reply to: Jacobu12

Considering that with ANY crash, there is a lot of small, hard to identify wreckage, there is no reason that there should be a lot of easily identifiable parts, that any layman can recognize laying around easy to see.

a reply to: Jacobu12

Neither is Flight 11. IIRC, neither were United 93, and 175. Only those four flights weren't listed. The hijackers weren't listed in with the victims either.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

Neither is Flight 11. IIRC, neither were United 93, and 175. Only those four flights weren't listed. The hijackers weren't listed in with the victims either.

That's not accurate. Flights UA 93 and UA 175, the destination, tail number and departure time are lisited on 9/11. Only flight 77 and believe flight 11 are not listed. Which means we got 2 planes not scheduled to fly that day.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jacobu12

Considering that with ANY crash, there is a lot of small, hard to identify wreckage, there is no reason that there should be a lot of easily identifiable parts, that any layman can recognize laying around easy to see.

Plane came through that wall there be debris everywhere, metal pieces would be flying everywhere.

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Yep, that two days on the down list.......was it just one?

a reply to: Jacobu12

Not sure what you asking me?

And still no answer to if it was not a jet...

How the hole on the front of the pentagon got there.

How there was no interior of the pentagon blown out into the lawn.

Why were the trailers outside the pentagon pushed towards the pentagon, not away.

If conspiracists claim the concrete floors of the pentagon went undamaged and posted pictures of bare undamaged concrete floors, then how did a missile, or bomb, detonation leave the floors undamaged.

Why windows in the pentagon were not blown out into the lawn.

Why was there no indications of an over pressure event from a detonation like blown out car windows or blown over vegitation.

Why the last holes punched our grew smaller from an explosion that the pressure wave would have spread out and grew weaker.

How the human remains of passengers and crew of flight 77 ended up at the pentagon.

Eyewitness at scene saw a drone like plane crash at the Pentagon.

Danner saw first plane coming, then a second one with four engines [presumably the C-130 control plane?]. When the first plane passed him, he saw it was a small white craft with no windows. “The front was like a humpback whale,” Eric related. “It was flying very low to the ground. There was only one engine, and it was in the tail” [Wow! Clearly Global Hawk, just like Eric’s always said! What’re the chances this guy could be so perfect?]

“He saw some of the light poles that had been hit by the aircraft,” Eric says, “but they seem to have fallen in the wrong direction, as if explosives knocked them down.” [???] Luckily Danner was an EMT and “walked onto the Pentagon property to help the survivors, but he didn't find any bodies or luggage.” [I’m not sure why he was looking for injured luggage to help]. He was then recruited into the search teams Eric is so fascinated with, and was closely followed and overseen, even “intimidated,” by “a mysterious agent with a name like "Erkstein" who was directing the destruction of evidence.” As for what that was, “He saw tiny bits of aluminum, a few large pieces, and only one engine.” [the engine was outside the building on the lawn?]

Could this be the same plane this other eyewitness saw?
www.youtube.com... Spoke to a women who saw two planes.

www.youtube.com... This man describes a jet, 20 seater with no markings crashing at the pentagon.

a reply to: Jacobu12

Really, buckshot keeps it forward momentum and causes directional damage that tends to radiate in a spreading conical shape from front to back. The buckshot doesn't just bounce around all random.

If the jet wreckage was snapping beams and columns in half, it was traveling from front to back. Not bouncing around randomly.

a reply to: Jacobu12

And has little context in that over a hundred eyewitnesses attest to a large jet impact along the flight path backed by radar, flight controllers, an in air pilot, flight recorder data, security cameras, and contact evidence on an antenna, light poles, trees, trailers, and a concrete wall.

The damage at the pentagon has no evidence of being caused by a bomb or missile.