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I'm Beginning to Fear that the Left is Going to Snap

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posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454


There is no leadership. The DNC is run by idiot opportunists. They deserve all the heat they are going to get over their ridiculous 'Panera bread strategy.'


Not that the RNC is any better. A bunch of chinless manimals leading an off-rendition of moldie oldie karaoke.


The US political system is a dismal failure. Time to eject the core and start over with two new parties.




posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:10 AM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: Wardaddy454 Time to eject the core and start over with two new parties.


There are a number of reasons for the failure of the American system.

  • Americans think that elections are similar to a football game: there always needs to be a winner, hence: there is always a loser;
  • Americans try to reduce complexity and hence make everything into an elementary choice ("pick: this or that"), hence in practice you only have two parties;
  • and half of the population picks one side, the other half picks the other...

So, no matter whom "win" the elections, half of the Americans has lost them. Now, that's a fine system you have, in which the national interest is represented by a party that is supported by just half of the population, no matter what, and the other half will try whatever it can to pull the carpet from under their feet. Swell. You should be forbidden to have the atomic bomb, as chances are that one day half of the US will simly nuke the other half, to ensure they "won" forever..

Why TWO parties? I mean: are there only TWO philosophies that Americans can think off, that would be worth while to support? Because you try to reduce complexity, you are left with a choice between a rock and a hard place. That's not a political system, that's a nightmare!

In my country we have THIRTEEN national parties, which all have seats in our Parliament. We hardly have "party loyalty" as a factor here. The Dutch simply choose the party whose program appeals to them "here and now", not the party "they always voted for".

There are also drawbacks. For example, each time we have to form a new government, it is quite hard to do that, as the many, many parties have to reach some kind of agreement on the program to be executed in the next four years, and often the political agenda's clash quite a lot. But if we succeed in that process - which we mostly do - we have a government that represents the MAJORITY of the Dutch. And - in our country the opposition is important too and if they have a good proposal, it will be accepted by our Parliament, not booed away simply because it originates from "the other party".

Note that we also actually don't really have loosers in our system, everbody is a winner!

As an example: the Social Democrats, whom traditionally had a huge default electorate and have been a leading party during decades, got severely punished for selling their souls to the devil. They shrunk from the biggest party into a minimalistic party. Still, during the ongoing negotiations to form a new Dutch parliament, they were consulted and even had the chance to participate in the coalition. They declined because they THEMSELVES felt they had lost too many votes to represent the Dutch in a Government, but they HAD the chance. In our country the smaller parties often have a huge influence, as they are needed to form a coalition. Hence, our minorities (e.g. Christians, Socialists, Environmentalists..) still get their say, are listened to, and taken seriously - the other parties may need their votes one day...

Perhaps the yanks should adopt our "nobody looses" system :-)..
edit on 23-6-2017 by ForteanOrg because: he confused their and there and to and too..



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:56 AM
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...and yet more calls for assassination last night, this time from Johnny Depp, to big cheers from his audience...
I think the left has now snapped. Totally deranged.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

I'm a Dutch socialist, you can't get much more 'leftist' than that. And I know quite a few "left wing" people too. Well, you'd be right if you assumed that nobody in those circles likes Trump. He is seen as a baboon, an idiot, an insult to the human race. He is rude, offensive, dumb as a door. We would love to see him get kicked out of the White House. And yes, I've heard quite a few people mutter something along the lines of "well, if they killed a good guy like Kennedy, or a good guy like King, what are they waiting for now..". People are like that, I'm afraid, even leftists. Trump reaps what he sows.

But I've yet to meet a leftist that seriously thinks one should assasinate Trump. Dreaming of it, hoping for it - that's one thing. Planning and executing an assasination is quite another.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Be grateful we havent ever had to endure a non-stop rude, insulting, childish, hostile left wing president.

The Right would pop. They remind us all the time.. They got all the guns... and they remind us, it would be a quick fight. Such hostile little sh#t attitudes.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg


Is your system first past the post? Because there's your answer right there. Two parties is the inevitable result of first past the post. It's structural to the system itself. The rest is pigsqueal-zooting.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: ForteanOrg


Is your system first past the post? Because there's your answer right there. Two parties is the inevitable result of first past the post. It's structural to the system itself. The rest is pigsqueal-zooting.


Nope, we don't have a 'first past the post' system, we have democracy



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 04:57 PM
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I'm Beginning to Fear that the Left is Going to Snap


They already have. They've completely lost their minds, and due to their Snowflake Paradigm, they are flipping out left and right.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: UKTruth

Be grateful we havent ever had to endure a non-stop rude, insulting, childish, hostile left wing president.

The Right would pop. They remind us all the time.. They got all the guns... and they remind us, it would be a quick fight. Such hostile little sh#t attitudes.


If us right leaning meat eating 2nd amendment loving Americans were half as hostile as the left/MSN loves to make us out to be...

There would not be a right/left divide in this country... the left would have been wiped out.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: 0zzymand0s




There is no leadership. The DNC is run by idiot opportunists. They deserve all the heat they are going to get over their ridiculous 'Panera bread strategy.' Not that the RNC is any better. A bunch of chinless manimals leading an off-rendition of moldie oldie karaoke.


Don't you see it?




The US political system is a dismal failure. Time to eject the core and start over with two new parties.


The silent majority did just that. Donald Trump. Neither the right nor left like him. They just don't know what to do with him.

Does that make Donald Trump an opportunist? Sure it does. But he is the only one that stepped up to the plate that was never apart of our government. He is the third party. He started it and he may not even realize it yet. The silent majority has been awakened.

It sucks for a lot of people, because they just don't like Trump on both sides of the aisle. Since Trump has been President, there have been more political investigations into the higher echelons of our government than I can remember in my lifetime. I kind of like that. I wonder how long it will take our government to realize that they are the one's tearing this nation apart.

They bad mouth each other, because of political differences. Children leading children.

Who knows though, we are still a young nation. Maybe the future holds a better path for all of us.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Do NOT pity these people - that would be a huge mistake.
Far left radicals are violent communists - otherwise known as Progressives. They need to be trampled into the annals of history once and for all.


I'm surprised you are continually permitted to post this tripe on ATS. You really need to talk to someone about your delusions.

People can, at times, become so absorbed in their delusions, they can act out violently, having convinced themselves they are doing something noble. I'm not sure if you make these comments for perceived rewards of the little stars, or if you really believe it. It's obsessive behavior, and quite disturbing. However, I suspect it is mostly fraudulent.
edit on 6/23/2017 by angeldoll because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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originally posted by: Restricted



I'm Beginning to Fear that the Left is Going to Snap


They already have. They've completely lost their minds, and due to their Snowflake Paradigm, they are flipping out left and right.


That would be left and left.

But I still think people are taking the current state of liberals, and blowing it out of proportion by I dunno, 2,000 %.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 11:06 PM
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Conservatives want the "left to snap".

It's some kind of sick self-fulfilling prophecy so they can conduct an "overdue purge" of people they don't like.



posted on Jun, 23 2017 @ 11:51 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit

originally posted by: Restricted



I'm Beginning to Fear that the Left is Going to Snap


They already have. They've completely lost their minds, and due to their Snowflake Paradigm, they are flipping out left and right.


That would be left and left.

But I still think people are taking the current state of liberals, and blowing it out of proportion by I dunno, 2,000 %.



Really? They've been attacking people with a variety of weapons on a number of occasions and calling for Trump's assassination. Now that lunatic shot a congressman.

Does it take murdering a duly elected president for you to see the Left has lost its collective marbles?



posted on Jun, 24 2017 @ 12:01 AM
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Going to snap? Looks like they snapped a long time ago to me. People who give up their freedom for the lie that the government will take care of them have to have already snapped.



posted on Jun, 24 2017 @ 01:53 AM
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We get it, your Political Party means more to you than your country. How "21st Century" of you.

Your father and Grandfather may disagree with your definition of Patriot, but that is so old-fashioned in today's world. As long as you find someone else to agree with you, you aren't wrong...right?



posted on Jun, 24 2017 @ 04:51 AM
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originally posted by: Kettu
Conservatives want the "left to snap".

It's some kind of sick self-fulfilling prophecy so they can conduct an "overdue purge" of people they don't like.


Nope not all of us... or even the majority...

What we want is to be left alone, to live life as we see fit, and raise our children as we see fit.

I may disagree rabidly with some parts of the agenda from the left, but at the end of the day they are Americans as well... I do not want to see the second civil war in our nation... because I doubt we (the nation) would survive it.



posted on Jun, 24 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

They snapped a year ago. We have murder and riots in the streets by racists that believe they are not racist. It will continue to get worse, but they already snapped.

At least it has been fun watching them cry. Little babies can't handle not getting their way.



posted on Jun, 24 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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You are right about only being built for receiving orders, but what if those orders are to 'resist'?

I think the antifa movement is the legitimization of the radicalizing of the liberals and progressives. These people are counting on conservatives self-restraint to gain a foothold and perhaps even begin to engage us more openly and violently. When, if (I hope not. Civil wars and Revolutions tend to destroy countries not improve them) it happens, it will be blitzkrieg. A few of my friends and I have been discussing this for a few months now. All of us are military veterans, most with combat experience and the warning bells began to sound when we watched the liberals implode after their election losses. Living in the state of Illinois, I've heard liberal, Democrat, and progressives talk about the coming 'conflagration'. Liberals are now beginning to 'prep', buy weapons, and some even have trained a little with them. Most seem unhinged or at the very least, off kilter and few have any real form of self-control. If one group loses it for what most of them would deem a legit reason, they will be crushed. More will follow in solidarity with their liberal brethren, then more and more until we have blood, bodies, and flames in the street. They already talk of these things, how much longer before they start actually doing it? Just wondering.

peace

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posted on Jun, 24 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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What is your fascination with masturbation? Very few outside of the left is 'masturbating' to the thoughts of civil war. Conservatives are not out there beating up people, or destroying property, or blocking traffic. Most of us are praying the idiots wake up before they do something stupid and irrevocable. When someone lives in fantasyland, reality can seem delusional and paranoid, but it isn't. It's the recognition of the fact that some folks are so stupid that they think violence will give them what they want. What do they want? They want the power to tell you how you MUST live and force you into their way of thinking and they use the 'by any means necessary' method. As a Libertarian with conservative leanings (in the scope of government) I find this to be reprehensible and should that type of violence come to my neighborhood, well lets just say they are playing with fire and I've got plenty of 'fire extinguishers'. I hope it doesn't come to that, but I am prepared for multiple scenarios.


peace

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